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A puzzle. The operating crew usually start with the 1450 flight IOM to LCY so they have enough hours available to allow for most delays. BA.com report Sunday's BA3288 departed LCY at 2035, and this mornings early flight left on time seemingly confirming the aircraft had reached IOM the night before. So SOE not sure where your info comes from?
Having said that I know from experience that if I see the Saab taxying towards the stands at the far west of the apron the departure will be delayed. But as the return flight doesn't involve a sightseeing trip down the east coast before a long run up the Thames Estuary the crew can usually make some of that time up.
Having said that I know from experience that if I see the Saab taxying towards the stands at the far west of the apron the departure will be delayed. But as the return flight doesn't involve a sightseeing trip down the east coast before a long run up the Thames Estuary the crew can usually make some of that time up.
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So SOE not sure where your info comes from?
I guess the question is were the passengers on board if the cabin crew went out of hours?
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Unless they've changed the rules the cabin crew can go one hour longer than the flight crew so unless they were on a different crew rotation the flight crew would go OOH before the cabin crew would.
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Luke Hayhoe, British Airways’ general manager, says: “We’re really excited to be back at Birmingham, which is such a good location for the whole of the Midlands.
“It’s got great train and road links, improved infrastructure and really strong year-on-year passenger growth, which all gives us confidence that British Airways can drive similar numbers.
“Our new destinations will hopefully do well, and as long as they do we’ll look at future opportunities from Birmingham. With the forthcoming HS2 high-speed train, growing exporters and the whole region generally up, it all feels positive when we’re looking at future expansion outside of London.
“British Airways is constantly looking at future opportuntities, and Birmingham is very much in the frame for growth. The airport already has a great relationship with our owner IAG and has worked really well with us on launching these new routes.”
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“It’s got great train and road links, improved infrastructure and really strong year-on-year passenger growth, which all gives us confidence that British Airways can drive similar numbers.
“Our new destinations will hopefully do well, and as long as they do we’ll look at future opportunities from Birmingham. With the forthcoming HS2 high-speed train, growing exporters and the whole region generally up, it all feels positive when we’re looking at future expansion outside of London.
“British Airways is constantly looking at future opportuntities, and Birmingham is very much in the frame for growth. The airport already has a great relationship with our owner IAG and has worked really well with us on launching these new routes.”
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It's a routing necessary to make an oversized aircraft type for the route viable ... Eastern were in there like vultures as soon as the ticket seller went tits up, they'd have been pretty sure then that their aircraft were oversized for the routes that they were poaching but who cares, it's only the people that pay their salaries that they are p1ssing off!
Now if only there were a UK operator of such a type as the Do228 ready to take up some of these routes that such amateurs as Eastern can't handle!
Now if only there were a UK operator of such a type as the Do228 ready to take up some of these routes that such amateurs as Eastern can't handle!
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It's the routing necessary because they have crewing and airframe issues.
Have a look in the Eastern Airways thread.
Also of note, is that on the IOM airport website it states there is an arrival from NCL. However on the EA website it doesn't show up at all in the reservation system.
Have a look in the Eastern Airways thread.
Also of note, is that on the IOM airport website it states there is an arrival from NCL. However on the EA website it doesn't show up at all in the reservation system.
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You are both right and wrong about that. The booking sub section which comes up on the home page seems to say that no such route exists. However if you try to book using the booking tab on the top of the page it allows you to book NCL -IOM. They need to get that corrected.
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It's the routing necessary because they have crewing and airframe issues.
Have a look in the Eastern Airways thread.
Also of note, is that on the IOM airport website it states there is an arrival from NCL. However on the EA website it doesn't show up at all in the reservation system.
Have a look in the Eastern Airways thread.
Also of note, is that on the IOM airport website it states there is an arrival from NCL. However on the EA website it doesn't show up at all in the reservation system.
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The simple reason for this routing is that BHD-NCL and BHD-IOM are the two money makers out of the three routes. Last year passenger numbers were 23,424 for BHD-IOM, and 4,149 for NCL-IOM. When Flybe operated BHD-NCL (ended mid 2016) they carried 24,335 passengers a year.
Eastern also compete on BHD-NCL with easyJet who fly BFS-NCL. It makes a lot more sense to compete with a non-stop service than with a one-stop service.
Eastern also compete on BHD-NCL with easyJet who fly BFS-NCL. It makes a lot more sense to compete with a non-stop service than with a one-stop service.
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press release stated direct services
EASTERN AIRWAYS STEPS IN TO PROVIDE A CONTINUATION OF ISLE OF MAN SERVICES | Eastern Airways
EASTERN AIRWAYS STEPS IN TO PROVIDE A CONTINUATION OF ISLE OF MAN SERVICES | Eastern Airways
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They originally operated NCL-IOM-BHD-IOM-NCL, but obviously found that more people were using BHD-NCL than IOM-NCL, so changed it to NCL-BHD-IOM-BHD-NCL in order to meet passenger demand.
... That passenger demand dictates an indirect routing taking more than twice as long as a direct routing ... Did you read it from a Cornflakes packet?
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Obviously Eastern see it more beneficial to have BHD-NCL non stop than IOM-NCL. Passenger demand will have a say in this. People flying Belfast to Newcastle would choose to fly easyJet non-stop instead of via IOM, so it makes sense for Eastern to have a viable non-stop alternative.
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As one who likes an occasional trip to Ellan Vannin, I was glad when Eastern stepped in to preserve the Newcastle flight vacated by Citywing, but I was concerned that Eastern would lack the staying power with the low passenger numbers. If they have found a way to preserve the route by routing it via Belfast, so be it. It's quicker than traipsing to Liverpool or Heysham and taking the ferry (as nice as the ferry journey is!)
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It's a brave Eastern that decides they want to compete against easyJet.
Edit: ... though... thinking of the number of times flyBe has pushed Eastern off a route... maybe that tie up was actually inspired? (I still can't actually see it, though.)
Edit: ... though... thinking of the number of times flyBe has pushed Eastern off a route... maybe that tie up was actually inspired? (I still can't actually see it, though.)
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