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Times for the LGW-PRN-LGW route are lousy and prices are not cheap, but with little competition there's not a lot the passengers can do about it. Can't see the passengers wanting to fly via Belgrade, Skopje has only a limited service from Wizzair and Tirana is a long way by road.
Why did BA stop the route ?
Why did BA stop the route ?
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Last month there was some chat here about a major movement in the LGW slot portfolio. My sources tell me the bidding has hotted up and it looks like a three-way scrap between Easy, IAG/Vueling and, of all people, FR.
Apparently MO'L has entered the fray in the last few days and overcome a lifetime aversion to paying for slots. By all accounts, Niall has been told to get the job done!!!
Apparently MO'L has entered the fray in the last few days and overcome a lifetime aversion to paying for slots. By all accounts, Niall has been told to get the job done!!!
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I do find those that refer to Flybe as 'Flymaybe' rather irritating. It is an old and sad play on words long past its sell by date. I say that as someone with no connection to the airline.
There again I am always perplexed how people can 'hate' or 'love' an airline.
They are just companies not living beings.
V.
There again I am always perplexed how people can 'hate' or 'love' an airline.
They are just companies not living beings.
V.
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A large slot sale at LGW may not be related to BE, what about Monarch, Thomas Cook or Thomson? Given the growth of landing fees they may see a value in moving to Stansted, or indeed some operations to Luton? Is it possibly one of these?
BE seems to be pressing forward with connectivity with companies like Thomas Cook offering connectivity with LGW and other airports, would seem odd to axe LGW so soon after this.
It may be also that the airport are planning to increase charges and see off some of the prop operators, such as Aurigny, Flybe q800 flights etc. Putting these up for sale, potentially may create more interest in the airport? and a premium. Just a thought.
I would have also thought that by now if you were going to see a larger slot holder go, it might be a difficult thing to keep under wraps. I.e. the identity of the carrier.
Aer Lingus separately have not released a timetable for BHD LGW, anybody on the inside of LGW or EI that have any info on this? Is it to return for Winter?
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BE seems to be pressing forward with connectivity with companies like Thomas Cook offering connectivity with LGW and other airports, would seem odd to axe LGW so soon after this.
It may be also that the airport are planning to increase charges and see off some of the prop operators, such as Aurigny, Flybe q800 flights etc. Putting these up for sale, potentially may create more interest in the airport? and a premium. Just a thought.
I would have also thought that by now if you were going to see a larger slot holder go, it might be a difficult thing to keep under wraps. I.e. the identity of the carrier.
Aer Lingus separately have not released a timetable for BHD LGW, anybody on the inside of LGW or EI that have any info on this? Is it to return for Winter?
EI-BUD
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Monarch, Thomas Cook or Thomson? Given the growth of landing fees they may see a value in moving ...some operations to Luton?
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DY are currently expanding at LGW, so I can't imagine them selling any slots. However, I have heard a rumour that it's a major player moving to Stansted, but no idea who. It's complete speculation at the moment and there are a few rumours going around at LGW as to who MIGHT be leaving.
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Is it known that somebody actually is going to leave? Is it just several reductions from carriers or simply just utilising more slots?
If an airline does leave then I think FlyBe would be the one to go since they are so unhappy about the pricing structure. Aer Lingus is a strong possibilty although I can't see them moving to Stansted or Luton in all honesty.
Having said that, now that Stansted is owned by MAG, could someone like Thomson or Monarch see a benefit in relocating (or atleast moving some flights) to Essex to operate under the same management as their large base at Manchester? The timing is about right for Summer 2014 announcements for these carriers also and it was previously stated by MAG that they would be talking to the big carriers at Manchester to entice them to Stansted as well.
It will certianly be interesting to see what the outcome is. Perhaps a Ryanair base at Gatwick even? I wonder what the cost would be for Stansted? Or could Ryanair close their Luton base (which has stagnated at 4 aircraft for many years) and move to Gatwick? There's so many possible outcomes.
What I do think is that if any airline does leave Gatwick, they won't be leaving the London market, a move to Stansted or Luton would be much more likely! I don't really think many airlines with a significant presence in the market would give up on London! Let the war begin, perhaps?
If an airline does leave then I think FlyBe would be the one to go since they are so unhappy about the pricing structure. Aer Lingus is a strong possibilty although I can't see them moving to Stansted or Luton in all honesty.
Having said that, now that Stansted is owned by MAG, could someone like Thomson or Monarch see a benefit in relocating (or atleast moving some flights) to Essex to operate under the same management as their large base at Manchester? The timing is about right for Summer 2014 announcements for these carriers also and it was previously stated by MAG that they would be talking to the big carriers at Manchester to entice them to Stansted as well.
It will certianly be interesting to see what the outcome is. Perhaps a Ryanair base at Gatwick even? I wonder what the cost would be for Stansted? Or could Ryanair close their Luton base (which has stagnated at 4 aircraft for many years) and move to Gatwick? There's so many possible outcomes.
What I do think is that if any airline does leave Gatwick, they won't be leaving the London market, a move to Stansted or Luton would be much more likely! I don't really think many airlines with a significant presence in the market would give up on London! Let the war begin, perhaps?
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In all honesty, if an airline is moving out of LGW or reducing its presence to leave LGW slots available I seriously hope that IAG will be looking at this.
The chance to add some more longhaul leisure destinations to the LGW base and also some more shorthaul sun routes should appeal to them with the now reduced cost base of BA @ LGW.
And note that I do say IAG, not BA.
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The chance to add some more longhaul leisure destinations to the LGW base and also some more shorthaul sun routes should appeal to them with the now reduced cost base of BA @ LGW.
And note that I do say IAG, not BA.
cs
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It may be a case that FR want a greater presence @ LGW in order to keep STN management in check. Afterall STN with such scale for FR, its cost base there is a v high priority. A greater presence at LGW could be a good lever for them.
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DY are very happy with load factor out of LGW 83% on first 2 weeks of April and some very impressive loads on NCE & LPA despite the rather less than ideal flight times on the latter. 3rd biggest carrier behind Easyjet & BA at LGW