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I wonder if its a case at LGW that the initial incentives are good but the general fees thereafter are too much for most airlines?
Seems a couple of airlines gained have been lost not long after.
With Air China, given passenger figures for UK-China are on the rise and so many UK airports are clamouring for service, will this be a UK reduction for Air China, or could they be about to shift to another UK point?
MAN for example has said it will be 'extremely disappointed' if a China link is not secured by about May next year, so, they must be in fairly advanced discussions with someone to make such a comment, as new services are not secured overnight.
Seems a couple of airlines gained have been lost not long after.
With Air China, given passenger figures for UK-China are on the rise and so many UK airports are clamouring for service, will this be a UK reduction for Air China, or could they be about to shift to another UK point?
MAN for example has said it will be 'extremely disappointed' if a China link is not secured by about May next year, so, they must be in fairly advanced discussions with someone to make such a comment, as new services are not secured overnight.
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Re Air China, Airline routes quotes further alterations to the planned summer 2014 service are likely to be announced in December..what ever that means, hopefully a resumption and daily rotation..
Yet more slots for Easy Jet this winter then zzzz
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Re Air China, Airline routes quotes further alterations to the planned summer 2014 service are likely to be announced in December..what ever that means, hopefully a resumption and daily rotation..
Yet more slots for Easy Jet this winter then zzzz
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Depends which variant of A32 they use.
773 - 313 seats
A32 can be 283 in one of their international configs.
Infact most of their newer A32 deliveries have been in that config.
So not a huge drop if that was the case.
773 - 313 seats
A32 can be 283 in one of their international configs.
Infact most of their newer A32 deliveries have been in that config.
So not a huge drop if that was the case.
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The BAC111s were flying in BCAL colours with BAW7- prefixing the old BCAL flight nos. I have never seen a picture of any BCAL aircraft at Gatwick North until today when I came across a DC10 pic I thought may have been, I'll see if I can find the link. BCAL were supposed to be an anchor carrier were they not? I know the old BA Operation was.
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BCAL at LGW N
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There are several pictures on certain aviation sites inc www.airliners.net that show BCAL liveried aircraft mainly DC-10s and B-747s at the North Terminal during 1988, and yes BCAL were supposed to be the anchor tenant of LGW North Terminal before the 'merger' with BA in 1987 but by the time it was opened in 1988 it was BA branded with no evidence of BCAL.
With regards to the earlier poster regarding the return of Garuda and Philippine Airlines at LGW, Garuda has set back the resumption of flights into LGW from Novemeber 2013 to April 2014 due to runway works at Jakarta and Philippine Airlines have stated that they intend to restart flights from Manilla to LGW in December although no exact dates have yet been announced, the same applies to Air Zimbabwe which had initally stated that they intended to resume flights from Harare to LGW on the 15th November 2013 but have yet to confirm this.
With the recent announcement that Air China are to cease flights to Beijing in October I find it unbelievable that when ever LGW gains a new long haul carrier another one leaves, how is the airport going to grow there long haul network if this continues to happen!
There are several pictures on certain aviation sites inc www.airliners.net that show BCAL liveried aircraft mainly DC-10s and B-747s at the North Terminal during 1988, and yes BCAL were supposed to be the anchor tenant of LGW North Terminal before the 'merger' with BA in 1987 but by the time it was opened in 1988 it was BA branded with no evidence of BCAL.
With regards to the earlier poster regarding the return of Garuda and Philippine Airlines at LGW, Garuda has set back the resumption of flights into LGW from Novemeber 2013 to April 2014 due to runway works at Jakarta and Philippine Airlines have stated that they intend to restart flights from Manilla to LGW in December although no exact dates have yet been announced, the same applies to Air Zimbabwe which had initally stated that they intended to resume flights from Harare to LGW on the 15th November 2013 but have yet to confirm this.
With the recent announcement that Air China are to cease flights to Beijing in October I find it unbelievable that when ever LGW gains a new long haul carrier another one leaves, how is the airport going to grow there long haul network if this continues to happen!
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Long haul destinations
It will be great to see Garuda & Philippine A/L back at Gatwick. I recall seeing both their B742's at the airport back in the day. I believe Garuda will use a B777-300 when they return but what about Philippine A/L?
As for Air China, isn't the cancellation of Beijing flights a seasonal thing & doesnt the same apply to Korean's Seoul service? That said, it's dissapointing that such a vibrant market as China can't be made to work year round.
Could there be any other new long haul routes on the cards? How about Cambodia? Like Vietnam, a growing tourist destination. Or perhaps, Thailand?
I'm surprised no one has yet started regular Seychelles flights. Could that be an option, perhaps for BA?
Also, is there any chance of some South American routes - say Argentina, Chile or Peru?
And I've often thought Miami could have potential from Gatwick?
As for Air China, isn't the cancellation of Beijing flights a seasonal thing & doesnt the same apply to Korean's Seoul service? That said, it's dissapointing that such a vibrant market as China can't be made to work year round.
Could there be any other new long haul routes on the cards? How about Cambodia? Like Vietnam, a growing tourist destination. Or perhaps, Thailand?
I'm surprised no one has yet started regular Seychelles flights. Could that be an option, perhaps for BA?
Also, is there any chance of some South American routes - say Argentina, Chile or Peru?
And I've often thought Miami could have potential from Gatwick?
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I'm surprised no one has yet started regular Seychelles flights.
Could that be an option, perhaps for BA?
Keeps getting mentioned along with various other possible BA destinations ex LGW
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As for Air China, isn't the cancellation of Beijing flights a seasonal thing & doesnt the same apply to Korean's Seoul service? That said, it's dissapointing that such a vibrant market as China can't be made to work year round.
Could there be any other new long haul routes on the cards? How about Cambodia? Like Vietnam, a growing tourist destination. Or perhaps, Thailand?
I'm surprised no one has yet started regular Seychelles flights. Could that be an option, perhaps for BA?
Also, is there any chance of some South American routes - say Argentina, Chile or Peru?
And I've often thought Miami could have potential from Gatwick?
Could there be any other new long haul routes on the cards? How about Cambodia? Like Vietnam, a growing tourist destination. Or perhaps, Thailand?
I'm surprised no one has yet started regular Seychelles flights. Could that be an option, perhaps for BA?
Also, is there any chance of some South American routes - say Argentina, Chile or Peru?
And I've often thought Miami could have potential from Gatwick?
As to MIA, well BA used to have split ops between LHR/LGW and VS also used to fly LGW-MIA but all now are at LHR. Given BA's close relationship with AA and oneworld at T3, I don't think MIA is an option, indeed BA have dropped a frequency which AA have picked up.
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Long haul future
So aside from the core long haul holiday routes which already operate, does anyone see a market for any other long haul routes from Gatwick or is the airport wasting its time trying to attract new carriers/routes for long haul destinations which, like Beijing, Seoul, Kuala Lumpur etc simply won't last?