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I'm guessing, due to this wonderful spell of weather, there could be a rush for those late booking bargains, so maybe the stats won't be too bad after all. But its true, the way people, particularly families, book holidays now has changed drastically over the last few years. Arriving early in the morning at your holiday destination to be greeted by some hungover teenager on your two hour coach journey, to then wait three hours for your room to be ready is no fun at all!
Click, flight. Click, apartment/villa. Click, car hire. Job done.
Click, flight. Click, apartment/villa. Click, car hire. Job done.
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I think what is much more likely is that the regular price for this parking had been increased far too much in the name of political correctness about using public transport and in a recessionary environment people had responded by not booking car parking and either taking public transport or getting their friends to take them to the airport.
Faced with under booked car parks the operators have finally cut the prices but too late to have a big enough impact at this stage of the summer season.
With the weather we are having I personally can't believe that almost every single seat on a plane to the Mediterranean from the UK to the end of the summer school holiday season isn't already sold out although I wouldn't be surprised if the number of flights being operated this season hadn't been cut back significantly before the start of the season due to the recession. However some of the operators like Thomson are very nimble and will lay on say night flights to airports like Palma, Mallorca at short notice to provide extra capacity if all their existing holidays and airline seats to the Mediterranean have now sold out (the short haul planes generally don't fly overnight to the Med but can do to airports that allow 24 hour landings and take offs if the demand is there). There is of course plenty of hotel and apartment ccommodation standing empty down in the Mediterrranean and and especially Spain and Portugal that can be brought in to use at short notice if the demand to go there from customers materialises
Faced with under booked car parks the operators have finally cut the prices but too late to have a big enough impact at this stage of the summer season.
With the weather we are having I personally can't believe that almost every single seat on a plane to the Mediterranean from the UK to the end of the summer school holiday season isn't already sold out although I wouldn't be surprised if the number of flights being operated this season hadn't been cut back significantly before the start of the season due to the recession. However some of the operators like Thomson are very nimble and will lay on say night flights to airports like Palma, Mallorca at short notice to provide extra capacity if all their existing holidays and airline seats to the Mediterranean have now sold out (the short haul planes generally don't fly overnight to the Med but can do to airports that allow 24 hour landings and take offs if the demand is there). There is of course plenty of hotel and apartment ccommodation standing empty down in the Mediterrranean and and especially Spain and Portugal that can be brought in to use at short notice if the demand to go there from customers materialises
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BBC News - Gatwick Airport plans to handle 40m passengers by 2021
New master plan out. 40 mppa by 2020 ,up to 45 mppa by 2030.
New master plan out. 40 mppa by 2020 ,up to 45 mppa by 2030.
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New master plan out. 40 mppa by 2020 ,up to 45 mppa by 2030
While the use of A380s and B787s and the migration of charter carriers to B767 will play a part, presumably this is achieved most easily by significantly raising the charges for airlines with smaller aircraft like Aurigny and flybe, while wide body operators have only a small increase in charges. The commitment in the masterplan to being affordable to all carriers is vague and woolly.
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Surely ethnically cleansing operators (who have been going in and out of LGW for years) in this manner can't be legal? Or at the very least a bit unsavoury (although good business sense I suppose). At a guess BE must be shifting on average 3 - 4 thousand pax a day, gauranteed. Maybe peanuts compared to Easy but still, would they really risk killing the high value metal goose like this? 
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Can't argue with any of that, of course its a business in the business of making money and, potentially, full airbuses or bigger will bring in more revenue than a Flybe Dash with 50 pax on board. Still, those dashes and Ejets are pretty much guaranteed for the long term. Are they really that confident about the stability and long term surviveability of their future customers? One in the hand and all that.
And those customers flying to Europe, they would be coming from.......?
Can't argue with any of that, of course its a business in the business of making money and, potentially, full airbuses or bigger will bring in more revenue than a Flybe Dash with 50 pax on board. Still, those dashes and Ejets are pretty much guaranteed for the long term. Are they really that confident about the stability and long term surviveability of their future customers? One in the hand and all that.
And those customers flying to Europe, they would be coming from.......?
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Lufthansa to close Gatwick from 28 October.
As to Aer Lingus on BHD-LGW, I have to say, I suspect flybe will have them for lunch. The ERJ-190 is a better product for this market and Aer Lingus losing money on new things at LGW is becoming an annual tradition!
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If more customers want to fly to Europe than to the regions, then the regions will lose and the UK will be that little more London-centric. Who said capitalism is fair?
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Lufthansa to close Gatwick from 28 October.
But, lets be honest, this was only going to be a matter of time wasnt it ?
I would love to see BA add FRA ex LGW as its about time that BA at Gatters had a German route again.
And on the subject of BE & EI on Belfast, it strikes me that having EI feed LHR under BA codeshare and having EI do it at LGW seems odd, id see the feed into LGW, what little currently exists being switched to EI along with the current DUB and ORK
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I cannot work out the logic of EI flying from either Belfast airport to LGW. Maybe they did not do any assessment of the actual and potential competition. Looks just like a re-run of their disastrous forays into AGP and FAO from LGW where it appears they did not even cover their direct operating costs.
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Lufthansa to close Gatwick from 28 October.
Thats a shame, it was useful for connecting (and cheaper!) long haul flights via Frankfurt!
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What was the reason for the bridge at the North Terminal, the one over the taxiway?
Given it's more usual to dig a tunnel, was there a compelling issue to go over rather than under?
Cheers!
Given it's more usual to dig a tunnel, was there a compelling issue to go over rather than under?
Cheers!
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Skipness, it was Almost certainly cheaper, although not cheap, to build a bridge as against a tunnel, with all the underground service issues that would entail. Any civil engineers reading will no doubt be able to quantify. Similar situation at MAN T2 where a tunnel was in the original plan for Phase 2 to link the main terminal with a proposed remote satellite servicing the 80-84 and 233-243 stands. Tunnel route still safeguarded but unlikely to be built in the foreseeable. The Gatwick idea is innovative and may be copied at MAN. These days retail rules, and remote satellites only get built if there is space to stuff them with shops and sufficient dwell time for pax to spend!
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Easyjet have applied to operate 2 daily flights to Moscow (didn't say which airport) from Jan or Feb 2013.
British Airways applied to operate 2 daily flights to Moscow Sheremetyevo from Jan or Feb 2013.
14 slots will be available from October after Bmi..
British Airways applied to operate 2 daily flights to Moscow Sheremetyevo from Jan or Feb 2013.
14 slots will be available from October after Bmi..