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A good point and well made, however in the very competitive London airport environment, I wonder how it makes sense. LTN, STN, SEN compete on price with low airport fees with the cost of trolleys and clear bags for security met by the customer. LHR and LGW offset this partly by having a massive retail income, and LHR will be charging for new facilities at T5 and T2. LHR is also a magnet for world airlines.
LGW is still easyJet, Thomson, Thomas Cook, Monarch and fly be dominated. Even the BA fleet is leisure focussed and very price competitve against EZY, so I doubt LGW can hike prices up too high. The competition on price is too heavy.
Nothing wrong with excellent facilites so long as they're commercially viable, the new Stansted terminal never actually was though it's really nice to use. It exists as a cross subsidy from LHR via BAA.
LGW is still easyJet, Thomson, Thomas Cook, Monarch and fly be dominated. Even the BA fleet is leisure focussed and very price competitve against EZY, so I doubt LGW can hike prices up too high. The competition on price is too heavy.
Nothing wrong with excellent facilites so long as they're commercially viable, the new Stansted terminal never actually was though it's really nice to use. It exists as a cross subsidy from LHR via BAA.
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Quote: "The competition on price is too heavy.
Nothing wrong with excellent facilites so long as they're commercially viable, the new Stansted terminal never actually was though it's really nice to use. It exists as a cross subsidy from LHR via BAA."
LHR won't be cross-subsidising STN for much longer, having lost their latest appeal, BAA now have to sell STN.
Nothing wrong with excellent facilites so long as they're commercially viable, the new Stansted terminal never actually was though it's really nice to use. It exists as a cross subsidy from LHR via BAA."
LHR won't be cross-subsidising STN for much longer, having lost their latest appeal, BAA now have to sell STN.
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Aegean will launch a 4-weekly service between Athens and London Gatwick starting 28 Ocotber 2012. From the same date, the Larnaca-Heathrow service will move to Gatwick as well.
Schedule:
Athens-London Gatwick
A3 606 ATH 0815 1015 LGW A321 2345
A3 607 LGW 1115 1700 ATH A321 2345
Larnaca-London Gatwick
A3 758 LCA 1250 1550 LGW A320 Daily
A3 759 LGW 1640 2320 LCA A320 Daily
Schedule:
Athens-London Gatwick
A3 606 ATH 0815 1015 LGW A321 2345
A3 607 LGW 1115 1700 ATH A321 2345
Larnaca-London Gatwick
A3 758 LCA 1250 1550 LGW A320 Daily
A3 759 LGW 1640 2320 LCA A320 Daily
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Airport Chaos as 1500 passengers diverted away from Gatwick Airport landings
The single runway in repair overnight plus fog this morning, with only a 'visual rules' emergency strip in use caused many diversions overnight.
Story here..... Airport Chaos as 1500 passengers diverted away from Gatwick Airport landings
Story here..... Airport Chaos as 1500 passengers diverted away from Gatwick Airport landings
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I don't believe the forecast predicted the weather to be that bad.
Whilst most people in the know take the met office forecast with a pinch of salt as it can be a little wide of the mark at times, you have to work with what they give you. If you cancelled every time you thought it *might* be foggy then the work would last well in to 2013!
This is the nature of operations: The ops teams at airports & airlines make 100s of decisions every day & you never know or think about the 99 out 100 they get right. Ultimately this was one night when at LGW things went wrong so it's headline news. I am sure they will have a wash up & senior management will become even more risk averse as a result but I wonder how many other occasions they have made a similar call & got it right.
Whilst most people in the know take the met office forecast with a pinch of salt as it can be a little wide of the mark at times, you have to work with what they give you. If you cancelled every time you thought it *might* be foggy then the work would last well in to 2013!
This is the nature of operations: The ops teams at airports & airlines make 100s of decisions every day & you never know or think about the 99 out 100 they get right. Ultimately this was one night when at LGW things went wrong so it's headline news. I am sure they will have a wash up & senior management will become even more risk averse as a result but I wonder how many other occasions they have made a similar call & got it right.
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In days gone by I remember they used to do maintenance in March and early November when traffic was very light. This used to happen at both Luton and Gatwick and they used to co-ordinate so the work did not overlap. Very surprised doing maintenance towards the end of May and they certainly paid a hefty price last night.
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Not Minor Maintenance !
The actual work being carried out is re-surfacing and replacement of all light fittings. Due to the fact that works can only be carried out at night, it will take several months to complete, during which time the runway has to be downgraded to Cat 1.
It is being carried out during the summer as low vis incidents are less likely, but due to s*d's law it will sometimes occur, causing disruption. Unfortunately there's no real alternative to carrying out this type of work with only one main runway available (How about a 2nd ? - Now there's an idea!)
It is being carried out during the summer as low vis incidents are less likely, but due to s*d's law it will sometimes occur, causing disruption. Unfortunately there's no real alternative to carrying out this type of work with only one main runway available (How about a 2nd ? - Now there's an idea!)
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Norweigen
Good to hear of them further expanding their extensive LGW operation, what with them ordering over 200 aircraft recently does anyone think we could see a base at LGW, I believe it is their largest 'non-base' currently and a base with say, 3 aircraft would allow early morning flights to; OSL, ARN and CPH all of which currently have 3 flights per day.
It would also allow for further routes into other airports in the nordic region, Billund springs to mind seen as it was recently dropped by Climber Sterling, who flew the route up to 3 times a day. Obviously on a 733/738 there would probably only be 6/7 flights per week but lower fares offered by Norweigen compared to Climber should help them to fill the extra seats!
I could not see Easyjet being too much of a threat to them either as they are already strongly established in their market and although ezy compete on CPH with 2/3 daily flights their previous inroads into Scandinavia/Nordic Countries has not worked too well (GOT, HEL). Ryanair's reasonable presense in the Nordic market is a further deterrent to any ezy expansion in the region.
It would also allow for further routes into other airports in the nordic region, Billund springs to mind seen as it was recently dropped by Climber Sterling, who flew the route up to 3 times a day. Obviously on a 733/738 there would probably only be 6/7 flights per week but lower fares offered by Norweigen compared to Climber should help them to fill the extra seats!
I could not see Easyjet being too much of a threat to them either as they are already strongly established in their market and although ezy compete on CPH with 2/3 daily flights their previous inroads into Scandinavia/Nordic Countries has not worked too well (GOT, HEL). Ryanair's reasonable presense in the Nordic market is a further deterrent to any ezy expansion in the region.
adfly - I don't know the answer to this, but is there room for Ryanair, BA and Norwegian on the London-Billund market, even with the presence of Legoland ?
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Emirates a380 to gatwick
On 6th July, the afternoon emirates flight will operate into gatwick with a380 on a one-off basis. Last-minute aircraft change is still a possibility but this is first ever scheduled a380 into gatwick!
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Update at 0720GMT 19JUN12
Emirates on 06JUL12 is to operate Airbus A380 aircraft on Dubai – London Gatwick EK015/016 flight, as per 19JUN12. This marks the first-ever A380 service on scheduled basis operating into London Gatwick, despite being one-time arrangement.
Schedule:
EK015 DXB0800 – 1230LGW 388
EK016 LGW1530 – 0130+1DXB 388
Last minute aircraft change remains possible.
Emirates Plans A380 London Gatwick Service on 06JUL12 | Airline Route
Emirates on 06JUL12 is to operate Airbus A380 aircraft on Dubai – London Gatwick EK015/016 flight, as per 19JUN12. This marks the first-ever A380 service on scheduled basis operating into London Gatwick, despite being one-time arrangement.
Schedule:
EK015 DXB0800 – 1230LGW 388
EK016 LGW1530 – 0130+1DXB 388
Last minute aircraft change remains possible.
Emirates Plans A380 London Gatwick Service on 06JUL12 | Airline Route
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Afriqiyah Airways
Good news.....Afriqiyah have just announced they are finally resuming Gatwick services after a year of absence. Service begins 3rd july. Looks like a330-200 to be used. These aircraft have undergone repairs at Bordeaux recently.
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Re the A380
Yes there are (although they can't use the upper doors and restrictions apply to the stands on either side) 
Why? They'll need to bus as there are no on terminal stands capable of taking one.