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Old 6th Apr 2017, 08:20
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Seattle is direct competition to Virgins recent announcement of starting the same route!!
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 10:17
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I always thought Norwegian should go for non served UK-US routes as well as the thick routes. I said London-New Orleans was screaming to be served, then BA picked it up.

London-Nashville or London-San Antonio could work on the 787.

When they get some A321LR based at Gatwick maybe the likes of

Columbus or Cleveland
Indianapolis
Milwaukee
Pittsburgh
St. Louis

Could work.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 14:47
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....a good few of those served from LGW before, of course.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 17:23
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Starting Denver for Winter 2017 is good thinking with the ski market. Seattle is also a good winter destination.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 18:12
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It leaves just two or three major markets unserved by Norwegian - Washington, Chicago and Houston. I too wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Nashville/St Louis/Columbus type destination served as well - maybe even Manchester for the ski season on a 73MAX.
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Old 6th Apr 2017, 21:19
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DEN can be a fairly big international conference venue also
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 12:28
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
....a good few of those served from LGW before, of course.
Of course they were, at one point LGW offered more destinations to the USA than LHR did.

Of those routes mentioned by user _aax1 they were previously served from LGW by,

Cleveland (Continental)
Nashville (American)
New Orleans (British Airways)
Pittsburgh (British Airways, US Airways)
St. Louis (British Caledonian, TWA Trans World Airlines)
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Old 8th Apr 2017, 12:01
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BA also operated Charlotte with USAir and by themselves.
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Old 8th Apr 2017, 18:50
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Originally Posted by vctenderness
BA also operated Charlotte with USAir and by themselves.
I was just picking up on the routes mentioned by user _aax1.

I don't think we were listing all the previous USA flights from LGW let alone previous BA/US co-operated flights.

If I can remember correctly.

During the early to mid 1990s and in cooperation with USAir BA operated to the following destinations (Charlotte, Baltimore and Pittsburgh) and then once that agreement had ended BA operated these routes with their own aircraft and USAir then opened Philadelphia whilst retaining their presence on the Charlotte and Pittsburgh routes with their own aircraft, the latter was dropped by USAir after three years with BA remaining on the route until it was later moved to LHR.
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 16:05
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Great to see a bigger range of US destinations available again from LGW, a bit light the old days.

Hopefully more will follow
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 16:39
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Seems like BA won't operate LGW-LIM next winter
British Airways removes Lima NW17 schedule :: Routesonline

What is the remaining capacity at LGW relating to slots and terminal capacity? Nice to talk about possible new routes but at some point it will be difficult for airlines to find suitable slots.
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 20:35
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Originally Posted by Seljuk22
Seems like BA won't operate LGW-LIM next winter
British Airways removes Lima NW17 schedule :: Routesonline

What is the remaining capacity at LGW relating to slots and terminal capacity? Nice to talk about possible new routes but at some point it will be difficult for airlines to find suitable slots.

LGW is very tight in Summer:

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/LGW-S17-Capacity-Declaration.pdf
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 20:41
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Originally Posted by wallp
Great to see a bigger range of US destinations available again from LGW, a bit light the old days.

Hopefully more will follow
Yes it sure is great, now we have

Boston-Norwegian
Denver-Norwegian
Ft Lauderdale-British Airways, Norwegian
Las Vegas-Virgin Atlantic
Los Angeles-Norwegian
New York JFK-British Airways, Norwegian
Oakland-British Airways, Norwegian
Orlando-British Airways, Norwegian, Virgin Atlantic
Seattle-Norwegian
Tampa-British Airways
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 21:40
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I was looking at some 2007 statistics today and I was really surprised to see the top US routes including Atlanta (390k), Dallas (400k) and Houston (460k)! How times have changed!
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Old 10th Apr 2017, 21:48
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Now 44m !!

Gatwick smashes global record of 44 million annual passengers, with long haul services driving huge growth


10/04/2017
  • Gatwick achieves 49 consecutive months of growth with busiest ever March, up 8.4%
  • North American routes drive long haul traffic with cargo volumes also up 34%
  • Gatwick is booming’ Stewart Wingate, Gatwick CEO
Gatwick passed the 44 million passengers a year mark for the first time this weekend (Saturday) – a world record for a single runway airport – and also announced that it has secured 49 consecutive months of growth.
Driven by growth in long haul routes, the airport has reported its busiest ever March, with over 3.3 million passengers passing through - up 8.4% on the same month in 2016.
With new routes to Denver and Seattle just announced, long haul traffic to North America grew particularly strongly, up 37% in March, with services to LA, Boston and Toronto growing most.
Cape Town, Hong Kong and Costa Rica were top long haul destinations to other parts of the world and contributed to a 34% growth in the volume cargo compared to the same month in 2016.
Stewart Wingate, Gatwick CEO, said:
Gatwick is booming. We have just hit 44 million passengers a year – a world record for a single runway airport – and a mark that some predicted we would not hit until 2035, in 18 years’ time!”
“Our passengers continue to show confidence in foreign travel, particularly to the growing number of long haul destinations that Gatwick now serves. We launched 20 new long haul routes last year alone and even more will start this summer, including to Seattle, Denver and Xi’an – our third destination in China – with our Hong Kong service also going daily.
“This long haul growth is also driving up the amount of cargo flown out from Gatwick. We’ve seen a 34% increase in cargo this month alone, which is important as the UK readjusts and focusses attention on global destinations further afield.
At this crucial time for the country and the economy, Gatwick continues to stand ready and offers the UK Government a credible and deliverable option for runway expansion.”
Year-end round up (April 2016 to March 2017):
  • Air traffic movements: 283,094 +4%
  • Passengers: 43,969,000 + 8%
  • Cargo: 81,138 +16%
Year ahead:
  • New long haul routes to Denver, Seattle, Fort Lauderdale and Vancouver in North America
  • New service direct to Xi’an, China, and also a daily service to Hong Kong
  • Hitting 45 million passengers a year - another world record – with bigger, quieter planes and a strengthened short-haul network


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Old 10th Apr 2017, 23:54
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Originally Posted by AvGeek1
I was looking at some 2007 statistics today and I was really surprised to see the top US routes including Atlanta (390k), Dallas (400k) and Houston (460k)! How times have changed!
You have to remember that in 2007 those three routes were only flown from LGW at the time and not LHR due to Bermuda 2 which was relinquished a year later.

In 2007

Atlanta was up to three times daily at one point by DL and daily by BA.
Dallas twice daily by AA and once daily by BA.
Houston twice daily by CO and daily from BA.
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 00:00
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
Gatwick smashes global record of 44 million annual passengers, with long haul services driving huge growth


10/04/2017
  • Gatwick achieves 49 consecutive months of growth with busiest ever March, up 8.4%
  • North American routes drive long haul traffic with cargo volumes also up 34%
  • Gatwick is booming’ Stewart Wingate, Gatwick CEO
Gatwick passed the 44 million passengers a year mark for the first time this weekend (Saturday) – a world record for a single runway airport – and also announced that it has secured 49 consecutive months of growth.
Driven by growth in long haul routes, the airport has reported its busiest ever March, with over 3.3 million passengers passing through - up 8.4% on the same month in 2016.
With new routes to Denver and Seattle just announced, long haul traffic to North America grew particularly strongly, up 37% in March, with services to LA, Boston and Toronto growing most.
Cape Town, Hong Kong and Costa Rica were top long haul destinations to other parts of the world and contributed to a 34% growth in the volume cargo compared to the same month in 2016.
Stewart Wingate, Gatwick CEO, said:
Gatwick is booming. We have just hit 44 million passengers a year – a world record for a single runway airport – and a mark that some predicted we would not hit until 2035, in 18 years’ time!”
[I]“Our passengers continue to show confidence in foreign travel, particularly to the growing number of long haul destinations that Gatwick now serves. We launched 20 new long haul routes last year alone and even more will start this summer, including to Seattle, Denver and Xi’an – our third destination in China – with our Hong Kong service also going daily.[/I
  • New long haul routes to Denver, Seattle, Fort Lauderdale and Vancouver in North America
  • New service direct to Xi’an, China, and also a daily service to Hong Kong
  • Hitting 45 million passengers a year - another world record – with bigger, quieter planes and a strengthened short-haul network


Strange that the press release lists the recently announced Norwegian flights to Denver and Seattle but omits any reference to China airlines commencing flights to Taipei along with Rwandair to Kigali .
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 08:44
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Second runway needed

It's time to add a second runway and forget about the expensive Heathrow
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 14:49
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It's time to add a second runway and forget about the expensive Heathrow
By all means add a second runway at Gatters but understand that LGW's growth is driven by easyJet and Norwegian, both loco leisure. LHR serves a slightly different market in connecting UK business to the world, something Crawley Intl has never succesfully managed to come close to in the same way. BA are also a leisure holiday airline at Gatwick, very different business model than LHR.
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Old 11th Apr 2017, 22:22
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Lets be honest here LHR and LGW both need an extra runway




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