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Old 20th Sep 2006, 10:58
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Bnwa J31

Just for info G-OJSA is in INV was re-registered in June/July from Sun Air. However problems getting the AOC aproved for its ops CAA needs qualified post holders(several, eng, ops,quality etc.) not a one man band
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Old 23rd Sep 2006, 11:33
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Originally Posted by richardnei
Anyone know why this evenings IOM-BFS-IOM flight is cancelled?
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Its what's known as the beginning of the end!!
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Old 23rd Sep 2006, 16:27
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Yet another fleet change from yet another airline trying to serve the IOM with a half baked plan..... No wonder the CAA get concerned. Mixture of names/registrations/planes.... it's a shame. The only constant is BA Connect!
 
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The only thing "constant" about BACON is delays, cancellations and unfair pricing strategies. And even the management are reluctant to talk to their "salary paying" passengers.

EuroManx have themselves had a stable fleet of aircraft for some months now, some fantastic fares and punctuality not to be smirked at!

What does it matter that an airline changes the aircraft it uses from time to time, as long as they are sticking to their schedules and offering great prices, what does it matter?

Gees, some of you out there are picky!
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 04:04
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The only way to provide a secure air service on the Island is for the government to do a long term deal with one operator similar to that which has been done with the Steam packet. An Island of 70,000 cannot support the aggressive open sky's policy it has now. Euromanx is a marvel to me, I simply cannot see how they make their numbers stack up, having the Island as your base and only 4 routes must be very expensive, but I say good luck to them, lets hope the winter isn't too bad.
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 09:34
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'The only constant is BA Connect!' - which is looking oblivion in the face so how 'constant' is that going to be if Willie and the Waterworld beancounters decide the sums (conveniently) don't add up. Were it not for the engineering facility it has on the Island surely it would have gone the way of other BACX bases years ago.

I know nothing about Manx2 but I would have thought they have a very hard task ahead of them to establish themselves on what is a very restricted market. By all accounts Euromanx nearly went under after a spectacular launch of routes which became unsustainable.

If a small community wants a regular, reliable service be it by air or sea then the only way that can be assured is not by leaving it to the market but by taking a share in, if not owning, the enterprise.
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 11:28
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New Route

Manx2 are now selling IOM-STN
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 11:35
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IOM-STN ?
What date do they start ?
How many flights a day ?
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 11:37
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Starts end of October with up to 3 flights per day in each direction
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 11:44
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This should be a good route for MANX2,

BAA need to update the new destinations page on their website, it is still sowing new routes that have been dropped and not showing new routes that have been announced, along with routes that started in may.

Welcome to STN MANX2 and good luck
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 11:59
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manx2 apply for LHR route

So do we take it that they didnt get LHR and got STN instead.
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 17:10
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Anyone care to advise on if I should book Manx2 to Blackpool for December, or play it safe and go for BNWA?

I know M2 say a full refund is given if my flight is for whatever reason cancelled... but it's the hassle I wan't to avoid..

Cheeeers!

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Old 25th Sep 2006, 17:18
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Never flown Manx 2 but I would pick anyone over BNWA.
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 17:37
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The only way to provide a secure air service on the Island is for the government to do a long term deal with one operator similar to that which has been done with the Steam packet.
Really? That's called a monopoly and the usual result is the company charging whatever it thinks the poor punters will pay. I recall other such island monopolies were gas, electricity and phones - and I'd love you to tell us how much you pay for a unit of electricity these days. In fact tell us all how much AVTUR is per litre at Ronaldsway..

There was such a deal with an airline many years ago and the scenario above duly unfolded. Then they got fed up and left - which is why no monopoly will ever exist again and no-one trusts BACON.
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Old 25th Sep 2006, 20:13
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This should be a good route for MANX2,
BAA need to update the new destinations page on their website, it is still sowing new routes that have been dropped and not showing new routes that have been announced, along with routes that started in may.
Welcome to STN MANX2 and good luck
Gets hope MANX2 has more luck on the proposed service to STN than MANX1.
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Old 26th Sep 2006, 03:15
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Jaberwok - its better to have a government controled monopoly wiyh price constraints etc then a market driven one where the price is set by the operator. In the IOM at present we have a monopoly on our busiest route LPL,
we are shortly to have a monopoly on LTN, we have one operator on Gatwick, so lets not kid ourselves. If the Government doesn't control what is a strategic service to the Island the operators will put their heads together and cherry pick as they have in the past and are doing now.
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Old 26th Sep 2006, 05:14
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BNWA disappearing

Originally Posted by Hansol
Never flown Manx 2 but I would pick anyone over BNWA.
.....meanwhile her in BLK, I hear one of BNWAs 3 chieftens was "reposessed" by it owner (who it turns out is not BNWA) and tried to get his second aircraft back only to find it blocked in here by other aircraft from a certain flying school. This leaves Blackpools Worst Nitemare Airline down to 1 aircraft.
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Old 26th Sep 2006, 18:27
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I see from the Stansted press release that Manx2 is adding a second J31. Does anyone know where it's coming from? Is it another one from Jetstream Executive?
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Old 28th Sep 2006, 19:17
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new J31

I'd herd they were getting it from Alan Keen in IOM but not sure if he's got an aOC currently. There's also the one BNWA "bought " which is going nowhere fast which is presumably available, although again no AOC?
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Old 5th Oct 2006, 00:03
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Cover of Manx Tails this month has a nice little M2 add for their new destination - London Stansted.

Also, on page 31 of MT, I quote the following;

"Manx Airline to apply for Heathrow slots.

The Isle of Man Airline Manx2 is launching a campaign to re-open the Islands links with Heathrow following the results of a major customer poll.

...

As a result, Manx2 will be applying for slots at Heathrow to run a three times a day service from the Isle of Man, which will start as soon as possible.
Getting slots at Heathrow is known to be difficult, but Manx2 will be making the arguement that the Isle of Man's status as a crown dependency means it should get a special exemption from the normal slot allocation process.

...

As well as Heathrow, Manx2 will also look at opening other routes before the end of the year to destinations selected by servey respondents, and will be making an announcement about this in the near future."

So.....our servey says....?

Good luck to them!
RR
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