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Old 19th Mar 2015, 00:08
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Does today's events prove Aberdeen is still in the 20th century while every other airport has moved on, invested and doesn't have the huge disruption caused today
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Old 19th Mar 2015, 18:46
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Not really. If you're referring to the ILS system, even with a CAT3, a majority of the aircraft that had to div out last night wouldn't have got in anyway. Yes, the Airbuses and Boeings would have, not sure about E145s & 170s, but the helis, JS41s, Q4s, Saabs - probably not.
So it's not that the airport needs to 'move on', the aircraft that serve it need to. Why would the airport 'invest' in something that is needed so infrequently, and when it is, can only be used by half their customers?
You could say the same applies in regard to the runway extension.
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Old 20th Mar 2015, 13:51
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Route losses

Flybe shuttles finishes Saturday 28th march, bmi manchester finish end of month and Virgin sept leaving 2000 daily seats being taken out and at the moment not replaced, decline full throttle?
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Old 20th Mar 2015, 16:13
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Originally Posted by ANYWHERE BUT ABZ View Post
Flybe shuttles finishes Saturday 28th march, bmi manchester finish end of month and Virgin sept leaving 2000 daily seats being taken out and at the moment not replaced, decline full throttle?
All routes which still exist with other carriers? Extra seats just diluting the load factors?
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Old 21st Apr 2015, 18:22
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Been ages since the last post on this thread...

I see ABZ announced a "new" destination today - LPA - starting S16.

You're probably thinking you've heard that before and you're right; was originally scheduled to start this winter on 02/11 but that has now been yanked and replaced with this "good" news instead.

On a different note, Wizz have loaded ABZ-GDN for W15. Lets see if it stays. Or starts.

GVA will also be returning for a second season. Average Load has been in the 120's.
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Old 22nd Apr 2015, 06:42
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Regarding the ILS, Cat 2/3 would allow aircraft such as the Q400, SAAB 2000 and Embraer 145 to make approaches in RVRs down to 300m instead of the 550m now. Most larger types could obviously auto land at lower RVRs than 300m.

For an Airport that suffers from the Haar so often the lack of a CAT2/3 ILS makes it somewhat of a joke in my book, and not a good one. But then look at the terminal, which is more of an apology for a terminal. I'm sure the management are planning some trivial show piece, such as the new front door which took months to build but hey, why try harder?
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Old 23rd Apr 2015, 16:53
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Possibly a new oil-related route? Den Helder Airport (DHR, Netherlands) appears to be at an advanced stage of negotiations. According to their website. Den Helder Airport ready for new markets

Perhaps in combination with Groningen (GRQ)?
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 11:25
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Gama Aviation

This was in papers recently...

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...p-with-demand/

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...-private-jets/

I recall Gama were wanting to build their own hangarage looks like this has expanded beyond just the ambulance Kingairs into proposing a Jet Ctre for exec planes.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 11:30
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Shell/IAC/Scatsta

Also the other story reported recently:

Oil giant pulls out of flights from Aberdeen to Scatsta - Local / News / Evening Express

What does this mean for fixed wing flights with the T3 S2000s? Has shades of Shell in the 80s when they flew Chinooks ABZ - E Shetland basin... Viscount flights t/f LSI at the time dropped right back whilst the direct heli flights provided the bulk of the links.

There are others in the IAC though - will they continue with flights, or do what Shell propose to do later this year (ie. leading to the disbandment of the IAC fixed wing services)?
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Old 25th Apr 2015, 16:21
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TDK mk2.
The problem with Cat 2/3 at ABZ is not the ILS equipment,but the taxiway,lighting,and terrain is not being suitable.I have seen a 737 land many years ago on autoland(weather was good and pilot said his intentions). However without the improvements you can't certify it suitable,and it would take a lot of money to fix.
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Old 25th Apr 2015, 17:46
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You don't know you are alive!
When I was there we only had ILS on 35 !
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Old 25th Apr 2015, 17:49
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I should have said, ILS on 17. It was SRA terminating at 2nm on 35 !
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Old 25th Apr 2015, 21:08
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Aye get the edge of the blip on the centreline,otherwise pointing at Asda Dyce.
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Old 10th May 2015, 10:46
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Routes Europe 2015

Things have been very quiet, in terms of development or new routes, following the Routes Europe conference back in April. With Aberdeen hosting the event I was half expecting some new routes to be announced at the event. Anyone know of any potential airlines or routes they were trying to secure?

With the good performance on the Geneva winter route, wonder how long it will be before they consider the same with summer sun destinations (Alicante & Malaga spring to mind). Surely Summer 2016 has to be a bit more exciting than the offering this summer.

That brings me on to stands and the terminal, nothing seems to be happening on the expansion to the terminal or construction of Stand 0 or new international stands, something no only is the airport lacking at peak times but was planned years back. We knew the last owners gave up on Aberdeen a long time ago and their investment was purely to fund Heathrow, but have the new owners similar intentions. They have owned the airport nearly 6 months and theres been nothibg dramatic announced in terms of future development.
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Old 10th May 2015, 11:04
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Next development might be new passport control for flights to the UK
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Old 10th May 2015, 17:53
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"They have owned the airport nearly 6 months and theres been nothibg dramatic announced in terms of future development."

oil price collapse - no one will invest until they know when it will be back to normal
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Old 10th May 2015, 18:30
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Regrettably, you are correct. Oil prices are down therefore no expansion of routes. Oil prices (& activity in the North Sea) may increase shortly, but the "Boom Days" are over for good for Aberdeen, I'm afraid.
Back to the "Good Old Days" when the airport was closed on a Sunday & the only routes were to Glasgow, Edinburgh, Wick & Kirkwall !
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Old 12th May 2015, 07:41
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Growth vs Decline

Huge growth reported at both central belt airports, over 15% for Glasgow which is mega but the 3rd month in a row of decreases for Aberdeen and the biggest drop thus far.

Perhaps more proof that the decline in oil is only just now only taking affect which does not bode well for the future especially with more route closures in the next few months to take affect.

A bit of a worry for a city and an airport so Overly reliant on only one industry an when that industry goes into decline it's no surprise that Aberdeen should of had a more diverse economy especially nearly 50 years after oil exploration.

Whoops!
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Old 14th May 2015, 17:46
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News just in... An Eastern Airways J41 has been pushed too far back from stand 8 causing it be stuck in the grass. The pushback tug isn't powerful enough to remove it. Fire engines are in attendance.
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Old 22nd May 2015, 13:18
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BP roster changes

Surely BP's move to increase time offshore will result in less helicopter flights and less passenger movements as well. Something to aid the continuing reduction in traffic
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