Loganair

[airhumberside]

Heres the full list of cuts from the BA website

Daily flights cancelled with effect from 28 May 2006
BA8890 Orkney to Inverness
BA8890 Inverness to Edinburgh
BA8899 Edinburgh to Inverness
BA8899 Inverness to Orkney
BA8911 Glasgow to Inverness
Customers may rebook on Edinburgh to Inverness flights
BA8918 Inverness to Glasgow
Customers may rebook on Inverness to Edinburgh flights

Daily flights cancelled with effect from 29 May 2006
BA8970 Dublin to Glasgow
BA8975 Glasgow to Dublin

Weekday flights cancelled with effect from 29 May 2006
BA8893 Edinburgh to Wick
BA8893 Wick to Sumburgh
BA8894 Sumburgh to Wick
BA8894 Sumburgh to Edinburgh

Sunday flights cancelled with effect from 29 May 2006
BA8955 Inverness to Stornaway

Saturday flights cancelled with effect from 03 June 2006
BA8954 Stornaway to Inverness
BA8895 Edinburgh to Orkney
BA8896 Orkney to Edinburgh

Daily flights cancelled with effect from 01 October 2006
BA8973 Glasgow to Cork
BA8974 Cork to Glasgow

[MarkD]

The BA pullout from Ireland continues... took ORK-GLA twice, a handy route compared to the alternatives.

[manx crab]

On the positive side, they are restarting the EDI-IOM service from 29th May

[Skipness One Echo]

DUB-GLA was in effect a pseudo-positioning flight and was not a serious competitor to Ryanair of Aer Lingus.

[dontpickit]

Loganair bows out of Shetland inter island services

Item on the Shetland online news service:

http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/pages...d_farewell.htm

[EIDW RJ85]

Not forgetting they also lost the dub-noc route at the beginning of may to Aer Arran. Thats also when they dropped the Dub-Gla routing. The Dub-Ldy routes have poor loads on them as well some days with just 7 - 10 pax on board??

[cuthere]

Latest CAA stats for June give 2995 pax using the DUB-LDY route, an increase of 17% on last June, so it's not doing all that bad. And isn't it subsidised anyway?

[DB6]

EIDW 747, not lost, gave.

[db7]

Aer Arran is operating the NOC-DUB route for Loganair - it is a complex arrangement which releases a Saab for Islands - Mainland services.

The LDY-DUB is a PSO route and on the am LDY - DUB and pm DUB-LDY has good loads ( many civil servants from Donegal going to DUB for day).

Recently Loganair loads have been greater both in % terms and abolute numbers from NI than BACON routes!

[discountinvestigator]

Originally Posted by Cyrano

Let's face it, in Loganair's present form, while their services are very important for connectivity in Scotland, they don't really provide a key piece of the strategic jigsaw for Skyteam or Star Alliance (or even BA, come to that...)

Well, I have only ever redeemed any of the last 5 million frequent flyer miles on a flight from Glasgow to Barra, and last year, 19 of oneworld's most frequent users went there for a party. So, whilst some routes are not the most key elements, they might just be of interest to those who actually pay your salaries. I have also owned a Shetland based business, and the flights are very significant to the local community. The 1W link is important to businesses but not that many tourists.

[Eff Oh]

So what are they gonna go for then?

[Manston Airport]

What about the Saab 340 sister aircraft the Saab 2000?

James

[Tubbs]

What is the source of this quote? I reckon the ATR 42/72 would be more likely or Fokker 50, although these aircraft don't cope as well as the Saab with some of the arse-clenching crosswinds we experience in the Islands

[noflybywire]

The F50 is a superb Aircraft it's as hard as nails and a real pilots aeroplane and IMHO miles!!!! better then the ATR series. The quote 'The most successful turbo-prop' must be the F27 which is again! IMO the Turbo-prop 'DC3',

[Strepsils]

Fears that the Saab aircraft may be coming to the end of its lifespan had been raised after two planes were grounded in Orkney last weekend

Oh man, that's funny. Two tech aircraft raised concerns?! If that were the case, concerns would have been raised a LONG time ago, believe me!

[noflybywire]

Having flown the ATR72 it's brilliant fun in a strong crosswind but sadly I didn't hear many of the pax laughing.PMSL,

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by noflybywire

The F50 is a superb Aircraft it's as hard as nails and a real pilots aeroplane and IMHO miles!!!! better then the ATR series. The quote 'The most successful turbo-prop' must be the F27 which is again! IMO the Turbo-prop 'DC3',

Read the original quote again. It seems clear to me that Scott Grier's comment about "the most successful turboprop" refers to the Saab 340 (yes, poetic licence, I know) rather than being some sort of hint about what type they'll choose. He appears more concerned about squashing ignorant journalistic speculation about "old", "unreliable" aircraft following (gasp!) two tech aircraft. I assume the SF340 replacement decision whenever it comes will be economics-driven rather than favourite-plane-driven...

[BHDflyer]

what about BA Connects Dash 8?

[dontpickit]

Originally Posted by Cyrano

He appears more concerned about squashing ignorant journalistic speculation about "old", "unreliable" aircraft following (gasp!) two tech aircraft.

Absolutely on the ball Cyrano. Just read the print version - the usual, clueless journalist quoting disgruntled pax.

[DB6]

From www.orcadian.co.uk

Loganair plan to replace Saab 340 aircraft
A number of Loganair’s Saab aircraft are to be replaced with larger 50-seat aircraft.
The increased frequency of flights, coupled with the air discount scheme, has seen passenger numbers soar to a level that warrants bigger planes, according to the airline’s chairman, Scott Grier.
Fears that the Saab aircraft may be coming to the end of its lifespan had been raised after two planes were grounded in Orkney last weekend.
But Mr Grier said: “We will be looking to change in due course - but not because of unserviceability. They are absolutely reliable. It is one of the most successful, if not the most successful, turbo prop aircraft.”

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