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Old 18th Sep 2007, 20:34
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Grrr XL

They are not going 'bust'
The MOD contract was not renewed by the MOD ; the operator of the a-c for the MOD run could not commit to its availablity; it therefore went to tender
The Pilots on that run were supplied by the operators of the a-c; cabin crew from the XL Pool
Several of the older types in the fleet are being disposed of as they go off lease; therefore a reduction in Crew numbers is needed for the next 18 months
XL have kept their staff well informed about what is going on
No pain; no gain
B 743 have high capacity as well as high operating costs; the SFB programme will be a mix of B767/A330 for the next 18 months ; thereafter all A330; 40 % less seats but maybe 50 % of the cost to operate (my guesstimates; not official figures; but hopefully fairly realistic)
If your partner is crew; he'she will have received all the communication from the company; posts such as yours do NOTHING but scaremonger amongst cutsomers/fellow employees and do no good whatsover IMHO
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 21:01
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Is XLA Airways going bust?

Thank you for the response to the question I asked, just in case i'm unsure of something is'nt the whole meaning of this website to ask questions and find things out as well as deliver information and to assist people's queries? I asked a question Dungeon not scare mongering just a simple question so climb down of your self proclaimed pedastal please you started the post response really well answering questions i had asked, but then you have to finish like you did, its a shame as its people like you that make people leave the pprune site and discuss things elsewhere as negativity like that is not needed, if questions offend you then perhaps you should not sumit to sites like this
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 21:20
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Grrr

Postings here of rumours of airlines going 'bust' can have a massive detrimental effect on businesses that are doing well. Media folk read these pages and a slight rumour posted on here can turn up as gossip in the newspapers, thus undermining a 'good business'.

Your post referred to 'streamlining' which means just that, and not XL going 't!ts up'!

Folk involved with redundancy are quite legitimate to ask more, but stating that an airline is about to fold needs hard evidence to substantiate such a rumour.
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 22:29
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Questions

Paul

Not sure what you meean by sumit but I stand by what I said; your partner flying for XL should be reason enough for you not to make posts like yours; has your partner not had his/her questions answered from the internal communications? ; I did not find your questions offensive; just a little concerning

Also not too sure what in my response can be counted as negativity; I merely set out the facts as I am aware of them; coupled with a certain suspicion that you; not your partner is raising the queries; as Buster says, the viewership of this site is by default industry wide and the words bust and airlines in the same paragraph can do no good to anyone

Just for the record, European have not gone bust; they lost the TCY contract which obviously resulted in a downsizing of the company; as you will be aware many employees ended up at AAE then XL

Finally, the pax load on the ASI run is well coped with by a DC10; it is the cargo lift that will suffer but that is decision that the MOD have made
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 07:20
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What does 'bump' mean? Is it a business expression that passed me by? This page of this thread shows how Pprune can allow people a vehicle to drag the good name of a company about, make extraordinary inferences and opinions and hints about the business model and health of a company, then scream when put right by some perfectly lucid answers! Pprune is a soapbox for free speech, however that right certainly gets abused frequently! Step forward Paul1942 for today's prize.
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 10:00
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oh dear rainboe, i might have to agree with you here. it seems to me that, if anything excel might actually be moving forward. they have decided to replace old and tired equipment with new. i know its not good news for those who may lose their jobs, but they could not keep this stuff flying economically for much longer.
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 19:59
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Father in law works for excel and he has heard today the a330,s are now not going to be happening ,he is very worried at present
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 20:27
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Havent the A330's been ordered already...?
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 20:28
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Wot, no A330's

That's strange .... Just received by mail an unsolicited 130 page glossy Travel City Direct Florida 2008 second edition brochure which features a full page devoted to the comfort and exceptional value for money 'Getting there in Style' on one of our branded XL Airways Boeing 767 or Airbus A330 aircraft. Mind you, a full page is also devoted to 'Flying on Scheduled' with BA, AA, US Airways or Continental.

Unusual thing about this brochure, there are no flight schedules or prices.
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Old 24th Sep 2007, 21:57
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Does getting A330's make 'commercial' sense at XL?

I thought the idea was to save money - not spend even more?

They should have bought A330's years ago - instead of that Air Atlantic Scrap!

It would have made more sense.
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Old 25th Sep 2007, 15:46
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Have to say i agree with UFGBOY and others, the comments by Paul seemed remarkably uninformed considering his partner had all the information. (And terrible spelling and punctuation...) And the only one getting animated was him... Simply reading UFGBOY's response would have given him the answers he was seeking.
The A330s are still on order, the company is at last taking the right approach to cutting costs and putting the airline in order. We grew at a ridiculous rate, in too many directions, and now we are getting back on the right path.
Announced today that no pilots will be laid off (except voluntarily), and there has been a lot of communication all the way through.
I think if this restructure is carried through we will be in a much stronger position to get through the winter and have the wonderful summer we are very much overdue!
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Old 25th Sep 2007, 15:51
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Has your father-in-law wondered why half of Explorer House was in TLS last week ?
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Old 26th Sep 2007, 17:43
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Heard a rumour that Virgin is intrested in XL, can anyone confirm this!
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Old 26th Sep 2007, 17:54
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You dont honestly think someone will be able to confirm that on here do you....?
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Old 27th Sep 2007, 10:37
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According to the father in law his manager who passed on the news about the a330,s also said the company would not exist in its present form for very much longer hence his concern (plus at his age getting employment would be a big problem)
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Old 27th Sep 2007, 18:50
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quote ///Heard a rumour that Virgin is intrested in XL, can anyone confirm this!
I'm sure the company spokeman for XL on pprune ALIENS62 will be able to answer the above we await your reply!!
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Old 22nd Nov 2007, 20:07
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They are meant to be getting their knew aircraft in 2008 anyone know what type they will be?
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 20:01
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XL 767-300's on Sanford flights etc this winter.

TF AME Dep MAN last week to Air Ivoire.

I would be surprised at XL going 'Airbus' thou with 330's??
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 22:36
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Using Mytravel A330's next year for some of the TCD flights to Sanford
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Old 24th Nov 2007, 11:44
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how can they use MYT A330s, they are now part of ThomasCook and 2 TCX will be
using them on their own routes. XL own A330 are being delivered next year.
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