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yes i would expect Flybe to but the aircraft at there first four bases NWI,SOU,EXT,BHX
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Its no real secret as far as I understand it, having been told it by someone you would think might be in the know. First 4 Emb195s are going to BHX x 1, EXT x 1 and SOU x 2.
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There is no secret (internally at least) about the location of the E195's. It has been well publicised that the first of the 4 will be at Brum in October, with the subsequent deliveries going to EXT and SOU. No mention of NWI. Sorry Deliverance fans. 
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Originally Posted by GBALU53
There is also a possibility that Jersey may receive a second Dash based, so this could mean some new schedules appearing out of Jersey this information came from a good source so we will have to see what developes,
1) the JER base has two aircraft, 1 Q400 and 1 BAe146.
2 the Q400 fleet is increasing drastically.
3) the BAe146 fleet is decreasing.
Therefore, would it mot make sense that 146 is being replaced with a Q400 and the route structure remaining as it is?
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Apparently you wont see a 195 anywhere near the CI's...ever! Let alone have one based there. Too performance limiting.
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You stick to fixing and we will stick to flying them.
When on detachment the pidgeon can take a long time to reach with some of the updates.
Maybe you are correct that the second Dash is to replace the BAE146?? but can you really beleive that, if J.W. was around he would not be immpressed one little bit.
To take the jet off the LGW route out of JER would be opening more doors if B.A. woul;d that be a good idea of J.F.?????
When on detachment the pidgeon can take a long time to reach with some of the updates.
Maybe you are correct that the second Dash is to replace the BAE146?? but can you really beleive that, if J.W. was around he would not be immpressed one little bit.
To take the jet off the LGW route out of JER would be opening more doors if B.A. woul;d that be a good idea of J.F.?????
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With another 30 routes coming on line your aircraft availibilyt must be stretched, in that one tech delay or failure has a serious knock on afffect. Does Flybe have a contract with anyone else to provide backup a/c?
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No Emb for the Channel Islands
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If your information is correct it would mean Souhampton would not be getting any as well.
Look at the runway figures Jersey and Southampton are similar with some exceptions like OCLs.
The figures are as follows
Southampton TORA Rwy 02 5653 feet Rwy 20 5413 feet
TODA Rwy 02 6007 feet Rwy 20 5922 feet
LDA Rwy 02 5415 feet Rwy 20 5266 feet
Jersey TORA Rwy 09 5597 feet Rwy 27 5400 feet
TODA Rwy 09 6198 Feet Rwy 27 8100 feet
LDA Rwy 09 6198 feet Rwy 27 5098 feet
You can see a lot of the figures as close to each other with the Jersey operation the sector lengths are a lot shorter than the Southhampton jet operations so if Jersey can,t take the EMB Sou can,t unless someone has not done enought research there could be a major problem when the BAE146 fleet does not exist.
Could some of the bases end up with an all Dash fleet and not a mix of EMB and Dash.
I can understand the aircraft may not be able to operate out of Guernsey as there Runways figures are less than Jersey and Southampton.
As the saying goes two Dash,s would be better than no Dash,s at all.
Southampton does need a Jet or two based on the sector lengths they operate with the height restriction on the Dash Fleet due operational reasons the fuel burn would be higher on the very long sectors to southern Portugal and Spain and other places of this distance.
If your information is correct it would mean Souhampton would not be getting any as well.
Look at the runway figures Jersey and Southampton are similar with some exceptions like OCLs.
The figures are as follows
Southampton TORA Rwy 02 5653 feet Rwy 20 5413 feet
TODA Rwy 02 6007 feet Rwy 20 5922 feet
LDA Rwy 02 5415 feet Rwy 20 5266 feet
Jersey TORA Rwy 09 5597 feet Rwy 27 5400 feet
TODA Rwy 09 6198 Feet Rwy 27 8100 feet
LDA Rwy 09 6198 feet Rwy 27 5098 feet
You can see a lot of the figures as close to each other with the Jersey operation the sector lengths are a lot shorter than the Southhampton jet operations so if Jersey can,t take the EMB Sou can,t unless someone has not done enought research there could be a major problem when the BAE146 fleet does not exist.
Could some of the bases end up with an all Dash fleet and not a mix of EMB and Dash.
I can understand the aircraft may not be able to operate out of Guernsey as there Runways figures are less than Jersey and Southampton.
As the saying goes two Dash,s would be better than no Dash,s at all.
Southampton does need a Jet or two based on the sector lengths they operate with the height restriction on the Dash Fleet due operational reasons the fuel burn would be higher on the very long sectors to southern Portugal and Spain and other places of this distance.
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Sou airport have not got enought gates for more aircrafts. The airport closes at 11 o'clock and some nights they have 15/16 aircrafts with only 14 parking spaces. R they planing on building more?
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You're quite correct. GCI wont have any. It's still perf limited out of SOU and can only get as far as AGP with 108 pax. About the same as the 146. Seeing as JSY doesn't have any sectors of that length it would seem unreasonable to base one there. That's probably the reason.
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Hi
Does anybody know if with the arrival of the EMB,BE would start some sun routes (AGP, MJV, FAO, ALC) from bases/airports such as SEN or BHD, that have domestic or frenc routes by the moment?
If so, any dates?
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Does anybody know if with the arrival of the EMB,BE would start some sun routes (AGP, MJV, FAO, ALC) from bases/airports such as SEN or BHD, that have domestic or frenc routes by the moment?
If so, any dates?
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195 for NWI
An official announcement is due in the next few weeks - but bosses are likely to follow the same model adopted by Flybe at Exeter and Southampton.
Mike Rutter, Flybe's sales and marketing director, said the size of the 118-seat jets made them ideal for Norwich and they should begin operating out of the city next summer.
"We would expect Norwich to have about 18 to 20 routes by mid 2006 and these new aircraft will help us deliver that expansion," he said. "That's 100pc the plan. We think Norwich is ready for it.
"We are taking Norwich from zero to one million passengers in two years, creating 1000 new jobs in the region for crews, support services as well as tourism and hospitality."
He said the airline was delighted by the success of its flights from Norwich and planned to operate three of the Embraer 195 jets from the city and a further two or three turbo propeller Q400s.
Flybe believes the move will see 300,000 visitors coming to the city as it estimates that 30pc of passengers will be inbound.
Ian Russell, chairman of Visit Norwich, the new body set up to promote the city and surrounding area as a visitor destination, said the move would help boost the local tourist economy.
"The challenge for us is to attract inbound traffic," he said.
"It's only realistic to expect people from Norwich to want to go to the Mediterranean and skiing destinations. But we are relishing the opportunity to work closely with the destination airports and win business from them."
Richard Jenner, managing director of Norwich International, said details were still being finalised about where the planes would go and he would not expect to see the new jets until later in 2006, but their size made them ideal for the regional airport.
http://www.spanish-airport-guide.com/article19.html
Mike Rutter, Flybe's sales and marketing director, said the size of the 118-seat jets made them ideal for Norwich and they should begin operating out of the city next summer.
"We would expect Norwich to have about 18 to 20 routes by mid 2006 and these new aircraft will help us deliver that expansion," he said. "That's 100pc the plan. We think Norwich is ready for it.
"We are taking Norwich from zero to one million passengers in two years, creating 1000 new jobs in the region for crews, support services as well as tourism and hospitality."
He said the airline was delighted by the success of its flights from Norwich and planned to operate three of the Embraer 195 jets from the city and a further two or three turbo propeller Q400s.
Flybe believes the move will see 300,000 visitors coming to the city as it estimates that 30pc of passengers will be inbound.
Ian Russell, chairman of Visit Norwich, the new body set up to promote the city and surrounding area as a visitor destination, said the move would help boost the local tourist economy.
"The challenge for us is to attract inbound traffic," he said.
"It's only realistic to expect people from Norwich to want to go to the Mediterranean and skiing destinations. But we are relishing the opportunity to work closely with the destination airports and win business from them."
Richard Jenner, managing director of Norwich International, said details were still being finalised about where the planes would go and he would not expect to see the new jets until later in 2006, but their size made them ideal for the regional airport.
http://www.spanish-airport-guide.com/article19.html
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BE are reporting strong sales on EDI-NQY, glad to hear it. Infact, some flights are already full or close to being full. Particularly at the start of the Scottish school holidays, surprisingly enough.....
