Aurigny Air Services

[Feet on ground]

Jerbourg

I don't know where your "good authority is" but it can't be around a 1000 departure because Aurigny only has three ATRs and according to the schedules on their website one goes to Gatwick at 1020, one goes to Bristol at 1100, and the new Gatwick service arrives in Guernsey at 1130. So my guess would be around 1200-1210.


Hopefully we'll find out soon, unless of course everything has changed again. I do find myself wondering if this is all happening, why are we talking about it and Aurigny not?

[Curious Pax]

According to Jethro's site, Aurigny are supposed to get 2 new ATR72s shortly - one this month and one in March. Unless they are withdrawing 2 older examples then there's your answer.

[Jerbourg]

Trislander Replacements?

Aurigny have been looking at replacing the ageing Trislanders with Do.228's. Looks like they are at last trying to counter act the continuing loss of pax on inter island routes to Blue Islands by re-equiping with someting a bit more modern than a BNT.

[jetstreamtechrecords]

The new Do228NG's are assembled in Germany by RUAG using parts procured from their Indian licencee They should consider the PZL Skytruck.

[eyeinthesky]

I understand from someone who looked into this type in some detail a few years back that Do228s could only guarantee the performance to get out of Alderney with a maximum of 15 pax. Seems a pity to restrict a 19-seat turboprop to 15 seats, but I suppose it depends upon your priorities.

Would Manx2 be a good tie-up, given their experience of the type and their owner's experience of the island (notwithstanding the need to bury a very large hatchet from previous encounters first)?

[virginblue]

There is also the 16seat Dornier 228-100.

[gcayman]

Atr72-500

Are the 2 new aircraft still expected in March/April?

[gcayman]

Grenoble

I understand GR operate skiing charters from GCI/JER to Grenoble this winter. Do they operate every week and which is the company chartering the flights?

[Jerbourg]

Eyeinthesky - I did hear in the Aero Club bar the other night that Manx2 persons have been spotted at GR HQ in recent weeks, maybe only a rumour tho'.

[Guern]

According to the GEP today two new ATR's G-VZON & G-COBO arrive early next month.

[Feet on ground]

Direct Jersey Stansted services now available on the web site. Looks like prices start at £30 including 20kgs hold baggage alllowance.

[GBALU53]

Will this service work second time around??

All very well having a Jersey to Stansted, at the times they are going to operate will it work??
With the end of the Jersey-Heathrow service next month where will those passengers who would have flown from Heathrow go to?
Gatwick at the moment gives a varity of flights to Jersey, you can also do for a day trip both ways.
London City Monday to Friday gives a daytrip to Jersey for six hours only.
So what market are Aurigny looking at?, by the time Jersey passengers get to Stansted there must be very little Easyjet or Ryanair flights to chose to go on with there might be some Air Berlin to Germany.

[Jerbourg]

FR & EZY fly numerous routes all day long out of Stansted, flights don't stop after lunch, Aurigny should not have a problem making a success of the route.

[GBALU53]

Jerbourg

How can this route work?

The flight departs Jersey mid afternoon 1530 arrival Stansted say 1630 so what flights are still to depart Stansted after that?

If your next flight needs a check in of an hour that makes your onward connection 1745 at least if the flight in from Jersey is on time, who would risk a connection like that?

So we have a night stop in the Radisson Hotel Stansted at a reduced rate??? I understand there is a Radission Hotel on Jersey, so has Aurigny done any deals????.

The following morning you can take your pick on the early morning departures around Europe??

[bmaviscount]

Does this mean the GCI-STN times will change for the summer? What happens to aircraft after it gets to STN?

[virginblue]

Why are you all so focused on connecting traffic? I do not think that the route is based on the assumption that most pax will self-connect at STN. Certainly there is a reasonable market for local traffic from the North London/Cambridge area, particularly with the LHR service gone.

[ChalfontFlyer]

The Aurigny website will currently let you book a direct flight from STN-GCI after 30th April but not the return trip. It just states "We could not find any flights or seats available on the date selected."
Seems odd that you can't book a return journey even if it may be routed via JER?

[J-Guy]

Flights schedules from Guernsey and Jersey to Stansted are as followed;

GCI – STN 12:10 – 13:20
STN – JER 13:50 – 15:05
JER – STN 15:35 – 16:50
STN – GCI 17:20 – 18:30

Given that there will be no Heathrow flights and a reduced frequency to Luton I imagine that there is a sufficient market for flights to the Island from Stansted for locals and tourists. Obviously recent attempts to relaunch the route have not been successful for various reasons, but I think enough demand exists and I hope Aurigny are more successful this time.

[ChalfontFlyer]

Thanks J-Guy. In fact I've just tried again on their website & it now shows the GCI-STN flight as well. I assume it was just a glitch on their site earlier this morning.

Regarding demand, if the price is right (especially this summer) then it will be a success! They have lots of experience vs. FlyBe on this matter & in my experience they're a lot less hassle as you don't have to pay extras etc.

[Feet on ground]

GBALU53

Have you actually looked at the STN departure board?

Departures tonight from 1800 onwards:

18:00 FR306 SALZBURG
18:00 FR968 GOTHENBURG CITY
18:05 FR2468 LODZ
18:05 FR8363 SEVILLE
18:10 EZY3467 COPENHAGEN
18:10 FR107 SHANNON
18:15 FR3014 ROME CIAMPINO
18:20 FR701 KERRY
18:25 EZY3417 MUNICH
18:30 FR227 DUBLIN
18:30 FR8347 PORTO
18:30 OR973 KINGSTON
18:40 FR2003 FRIEDRICHSHAFEN
18:40 FR9774 KARLSRUHE BADEN
18:45 EZY263 BELFAST
18:45 FR4198 MILAN BERGAMO
18:45 FR8546 BERLIN SCHONEFE
18:55 FR2316 BRATISLAVA
19:00 FR5998 MADRID
19:05 FR038 OSLO TORP
19:05 FR798 VENICE TREVISO
19:20 EZY519 NEWCASTLE
19:20 FR464 TURIN
19:25 EZY3009 AMSTERDAM
19:30 AEU156 KEFLAVIK
19:35 FR052 STOCKHOLM SKAVS
19:35 FR613 DERRY
19:45 EZY217 GLASGOW
19:45 FR6542 MARSEILLE
19:45 FR907 CORK
20:00 A3605 ATHENS
20:00 DY1305 OSLO
20:05 4U357 COLOGNE
20:05 FR293 DUBLIN
20:10 FR3634 BREMEN
20:10 FR419 GLASGOW PIK
20:10 FR6129 BELFAST CITY
20:15 AB8343 DUSSELDORF
20:15 AB8821 MUNSTER
20:20 4U2379 STUTTGART
20:30 FR586 PISA
20:40 AB8423 HANOVER
20:40 FR3258 DUSSELDORF WEEZ
20:40 FR758 FRANKFURT HAHN
20:45 AB8595 NUREMBERG
20:55 EZY245 EDINBURGH
21:10 EZY219 GLASGOW
21:45 FR109 SHANNON
21:45 FR297 DUBLIN
22:00 YK956 ANTALYA

Quite a few choices then!

But I don't think Aurigny's main focus will be on transfer traffic, sure some of it will be, but there is a big leisure market to and from the Stansted catchment area. Surely if the Guernsey Stansted route can operated almost daily year round off peak timed services, then the Jersey Stansted market can as well.

I wish them well in these difficult times for airlines.