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Mrs Overall
Anyone would think you are a trolly dolly on Trislanders they way you seem to support Aurigny??
You must not lose sight that the Guernsey Tax Payer (are you one?) is funding a lot of Aurigny and the problems they have, being a small company when things go wrong in the big world, meaning outside the Island, you start talking big money to mopp up.
I would hope the problems they have had with the new aircraft are covered by some warranty from Aerospatial???
So Aurigny replace the ATR 72s with newer ATR72s so what do they do to replace the inter-islands work hourse newer Trislanders?? this is a good one for you to answer as you do seem to be a fan of the yellow doddle bug family??
Anyone would think you are a trolly dolly on Trislanders they way you seem to support Aurigny??
You must not lose sight that the Guernsey Tax Payer (are you one?) is funding a lot of Aurigny and the problems they have, being a small company when things go wrong in the big world, meaning outside the Island, you start talking big money to mopp up.
I would hope the problems they have had with the new aircraft are covered by some warranty from Aerospatial???
So Aurigny replace the ATR 72s with newer ATR72s so what do they do to replace the inter-islands work hourse newer Trislanders?? this is a good one for you to answer as you do seem to be a fan of the yellow doddle bug family??
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Mrs Overall - what a load of crap and you know it.
Can I remind you of one particular airline, out of the two which you have hinted at, that subchartered an additional ATR (they already had one on wetlease) just so that their passengers could leave GCI when the firefighters decided to stop working?? It would have been a good enough excuse as far as I am concerned to say 'sorry, tough beyond our control' but they did not.
In terms of tech problems, one of the GCI airlines have enough aircraft in the fleet to position another aircraft which they regularly do in the event of a 'bad' tech issue.
Spot on those people that have said tech problems happen to all airlines. No airline is immune to tech problems, even the ones with new aircraft. In fact these can be worse as they have to discuss with the aircraft manufacturer.
The fact that they subchartered is nothing to congratulate them about, many many airlines do it!! get over it
Can I remind you of one particular airline, out of the two which you have hinted at, that subchartered an additional ATR (they already had one on wetlease) just so that their passengers could leave GCI when the firefighters decided to stop working?? It would have been a good enough excuse as far as I am concerned to say 'sorry, tough beyond our control' but they did not.
In terms of tech problems, one of the GCI airlines have enough aircraft in the fleet to position another aircraft which they regularly do in the event of a 'bad' tech issue.
Spot on those people that have said tech problems happen to all airlines. No airline is immune to tech problems, even the ones with new aircraft. In fact these can be worse as they have to discuss with the aircraft manufacturer.
The fact that they subchartered is nothing to congratulate them about, many many airlines do it!! get over it
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Flybe did subcharter an ATR 72 to cover the problems with the fire cover, good on them for that, it didn't work out in the end but there was nothing more they could have done about that.
However there are many times in the past where Flybe have cancelled flights due to technical problems and left passengers in the lurch. Sure enough sometimes they bring in a replacement aircraft but that seems to be if and when it suits them.
Aurigny are going to have problems without a back-up aircraft now that they are utilising all three ATR aircraft, however 9/10 times they will get you to your destination.
You are always going to have teething troubles when a new aircraft is introduced, this is no different from when Flybe introduced the Q400.
Before you ask, I don't have any connections with Aurigny apart from being a Guernsey tax payer who supports his local airline.
Flybe did subcharter an ATR 72 to cover the problems with the fire cover, good on them for that, it didn't work out in the end but there was nothing more they could have done about that.
However there are many times in the past where Flybe have cancelled flights due to technical problems and left passengers in the lurch. Sure enough sometimes they bring in a replacement aircraft but that seems to be if and when it suits them.
Aurigny are going to have problems without a back-up aircraft now that they are utilising all three ATR aircraft, however 9/10 times they will get you to your destination.
You are always going to have teething troubles when a new aircraft is introduced, this is no different from when Flybe introduced the Q400.
Before you ask, I don't have any connections with Aurigny apart from being a Guernsey tax payer who supports his local airline.
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well said geo73. Like the good old Guernsey Press, the others contributors just can't help putting the boot into aurigny when something goes wrong - like the other operators are perfect!
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Please care to re-read my post and you will see I had already acknowledged the fact that airlines that have new aircraft will often experience tech issues. I am fully aware that this happened with the Q400, as it has with the A380 recently publicised.
I do not doubt that Aurigny will get you to your destination, so will Flybe and Blue Islands. The only thing is you may be subject to a delay either because Aurigny is fixing the plane, or Flybe rebook you onto the next service due to their frequent schedule into GCI. How anyone can suggest that Flybe leave you in the lurch is far beyond my understanding as they have more flexibility in such circumstances - if for any reason the island is fogged out this is a different matter but I hardly see how they would then be different to anyone else.
Besides my post was in response to a rather ridiculous suggestion made by Mrs Overall. I am not prepared to get into an indepth, endless and pointless discussion about which are the better airlines operating into GCI. As far as I am concerned both GR and BE are the same like it or lump it.
Please care to re-read my post and you will see I had already acknowledged the fact that airlines that have new aircraft will often experience tech issues. I am fully aware that this happened with the Q400, as it has with the A380 recently publicised.
I do not doubt that Aurigny will get you to your destination, so will Flybe and Blue Islands. The only thing is you may be subject to a delay either because Aurigny is fixing the plane, or Flybe rebook you onto the next service due to their frequent schedule into GCI. How anyone can suggest that Flybe leave you in the lurch is far beyond my understanding as they have more flexibility in such circumstances - if for any reason the island is fogged out this is a different matter but I hardly see how they would then be different to anyone else.
Besides my post was in response to a rather ridiculous suggestion made by Mrs Overall. I am not prepared to get into an indepth, endless and pointless discussion about which are the better airlines operating into GCI. As far as I am concerned both GR and BE are the same like it or lump it.
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Because you have more flexibility doesn't mean you are going to use it.
Flybe have a reputation for cancelling flights very early on when they have problems, they may have their reasons for this, who know's?
Aurigny are the opposite, they will always do the upmost to get you to/from your destination, only cancelling as a last resort.
It may be beyond your understanding, however it is fact.
Describing the two as the same shows your lack of local knowledge.
Because you have more flexibility doesn't mean you are going to use it.
Flybe have a reputation for cancelling flights very early on when they have problems, they may have their reasons for this, who know's?
Aurigny are the opposite, they will always do the upmost to get you to/from your destination, only cancelling as a last resort.
It may be beyond your understanding, however it is fact.
Describing the two as the same shows your lack of local knowledge.
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Yeah. I bet most people have experienced or know someone who has experienced Flybe cancelling a flight and saying book on the next available - which turns out to be 2 days later. The only good thing is for Flybe, who then run 100% load factor for the next couple of days.
I do not understand the "Flybe has more flexibility". If that is true I have never witnessed it.
I do not understand the "Flybe has more flexibility". If that is true I have never witnessed it.
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Anyone know how the Guernsey - East Midlands flight is getting on, been running for about 3 weeks now, I have to say there hasnt been much advertising for the flights, apart from a small banner on their website
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EMA Flights
Due to the very late launch of this service it is not included as one of the flight options in any of the tour operator's brochures.
Two week's ago we phoned three travel agents to get the best price for a holiday we are taking there in June, they all insisted there was not a service to Guernsey from EMA!
I would imagine this, together with very little advertising, is likely to have quite a bearing on pax numbers for this Summer season. The lack of awareness of the new route by travel agents certainly does not reflect well on the airport's marketing department...!
Two week's ago we phoned three travel agents to get the best price for a holiday we are taking there in June, they all insisted there was not a service to Guernsey from EMA!
I would imagine this, together with very little advertising, is likely to have quite a bearing on pax numbers for this Summer season. The lack of awareness of the new route by travel agents certainly does not reflect well on the airport's marketing department...!
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If the travel agents don't know then thats not good, but I think Mrs O is right in that it was reported in the local press as being off to a good start with bookings ahead of budget figures which is encouraging.
I think it will be a welcome alternative to BHX with flybe (via JER sometimes) - but people book in advance these days if they can and i know people who had already booked with flybe to get a decent price so they are already committed. I guess this will filter out of the equation over time.
I think it will be a welcome alternative to BHX with flybe (via JER sometimes) - but people book in advance these days if they can and i know people who had already booked with flybe to get a decent price so they are already committed. I guess this will filter out of the equation over time.
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Well, I hope you have considered changing your travel agents as any agent with access to Sabre, Galileo or Amadeus would have seen with 1 simple entry that Aurigy operates on that route. And I just did a quick lookup on ebookers www.ebookers.co.uk) and the connex brings back Aurigny flights .... 
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My niece came over on the second flight, said it was virtually full. Unfortunatly all her other flights for the summer (and mine) have been booked in advance from BHX, which is unfortunate - wish we had known about the service starting a bit earlier!
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The aircraft positioned back to Guernsey that same morning for repairs and was back in service late yesterday afternoon.
The aircraft was Delta Bravo and not one of the new ones
The aircraft was Delta Bravo and not one of the new ones
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There was a big meeting in Guernsey on Wednesday.
What the meeting was about could well be in conection with the possibilty of said person asking to take a little walk.
I understand he was kept on a few years ago to sort out the mess he has put the company in to.
So could be some big changes not only in the company but operations with in the Islands.
Never nice to hear of these sort of problems so close to Xmas.
What the meeting was about could well be in conection with the possibilty of said person asking to take a little walk.
I understand he was kept on a few years ago to sort out the mess he has put the company in to.
So could be some big changes not only in the company but operations with in the Islands.
Never nice to hear of these sort of problems so close to Xmas.