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Old 6th Nov 2016, 22:44
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I've always found them quite characterful, yes they do make a bit of a racket but for the most part they only do about 3 flights per day, not to mention they are usually at pretty sociable times...
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Old 7th Nov 2016, 11:34
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Definitely a unique sound, but not excessively noisy to me.
2 miles from runway end.

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Old 7th Nov 2016, 14:30
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Recently I flew in both Dornier and Trislander on the same day. The "new" Dornier (G-OAUR) is comfortable but equally as noisy as the Trislander - at take-off and in the cruise. When it comes to landing, the Trislander is actually much quieter and gentler. The Do228 has to apply much more "brake" on landing in ALD.

The sound of A Tri is also very nostalgic. By no means "horrible Trislander"!

If it wasn't for the 3 Trislanders, Aurigny would be in an utter mess. Even this afternoon G-OAUR has gone tech and the GUR-DIN flight has been cancelled after an aborted t/o.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 07:34
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I endorse your comment as I also flew on both the Do.228 and Trislander recently. Although more roomy, the Dornier IS a noisy little beast. If anything the Trislander is quieter inside. Certainly the landing is quieter in a Trislander.

FR24 shows that yesterday G-OAUR (operating GR124 to Dinard) returned to stand from r/w 09. Shortly afterwards it went into the hangar leaving Aurigny with no serviceable Dorniers. Trislander G-BDTO started out from Guernsey on GR565 but then returned. Another tech aircraft? If so, not a good day for Aurigny...
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 10:25
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So... What routes do the Trislanders operate? Do they operate a regular schedule?

I'd love to try and bag one before the Spring
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 13:43
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Trislanders are only used on Guernsey-Dinard, Guernsey-Alderney and Alderney-Southampton routes. But Do.228s are ALSO used, so you really never know which it will be till the day. I've spoken to Aurigny reservations before booking, and invariably they will tell you "Dornier" when you ask which aircraft will operate a specified flight. Most recently I could see that SOME flights would need to be operated by Trislander as the one serviceable Dornier can't do the lot. The person at reservations recognized this when told but admitted that they are "in the dark" just as much as anyone else when it comes to knowing what is actually going on with the Dornier fiasco - two aircraft being out of service long-term.
Recently it was suggested that Trislanders will continue for another five months - so you'll need to get on board before the end of March. However it's anyone's guess as the Trislanders were scheduled for retirement in April 2016 - or even earlier!
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 18:54
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G-LGIS has been in Oberpfaffenhofen for just over 2 months now. Does anyone know what was actually wrong with this a/c and when it is likely to be back?
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 20:43
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So... Are you telling me to get to Guernsey, arrange to be there 3/4 days, book a flexi fare that I could transfer (if they exist) and wait until the day and hop on whichever one reservations tell me is being operated by the Tri, on that day... Hahaha :P
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 21:16
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Yes, that's about right. Fares to Guernsey aren't cheap so you'll have to dig deep. Aurigny reservations would advise you to purchase a flexi-type ticket (i.e the most expensive) which means if you find your booked flight is on the Dornier you can change without loss to yourself and rebook on a flight operated by a Trislander. Pretty simple, isn't it? You'll just need time and money.

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Even Aurigny aircrew don't know what is happening with the two elderly Dorniers. I spoke to some recently and asked if there is any truth in the suggestion that a composite aircraft might be built out of G-LGIS and G-SAYE (unlikely in my opinion). They could only admit that there are various ideas but nothing seems concrete. As for G-SAYE, it was seen taxiing around a few days ago without its tailplane! Perhaps the engineers were a little short of work.....
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 07:29
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Originally Posted by EK77WNCL View Post
So... Are you telling me to get to Guernsey, arrange to be there 3/4 days, book a flexi fare that I could transfer (if they exist) and wait until the day and hop on whichever one reservations tell me is being operated by the Tri, on that day... Hahaha :P
Got it in 4 !
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 17:29
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G-LGIS has been in Oberpfaffenhofen for just over 2 months now. Does anyone know what was actually wrong with this a/c and when it is likely to be back?

I read that the aircraft had at some time in the past been repaired with car-body filler. Might be a bit complicated undoing that, hence the trip to Oberpfaffenhofen.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 22:33
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Driving past the airport today I noticed Aurigny's replacement for G-BWDB has arrived and was sitting outside Anglo Normandy. According to Flight Radar it landed from Billund yesterday evening.

Current reg appears to be OY-YBO, 7 years old, frame number 891, previously flown for Azul.
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Old 13th Nov 2016, 03:16
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G-LGIS has been in Oberpfaffenhofen for just over 2 months now. Does anyone know what was actually wrong with this a/c and when it is likely to be back?

I read that the aircraft had at some time in the past been repaired with car-body filler. Might be a bit complicated undoing that, hence the trip to Oberpfaffenhofen.
I suspect that the car body filler story might be one of the many stories floating around about the Dorniers that are somewhat imaginative. These include (for the various a/c) the aircraft are too heavy to take off with passengers, the engines are too heavy for the wings, the wings are the wrong size so the a/c had to return to the factory, the floor has been reinforced with steel so there is no weight capacity left for the passengers, etc.

As for the story about combining the two older a/c, on the face of it this sounds quite a major activity if it is extensive. One story was that G-LGIS was suffering corrosion problems, but presumably this isn't everywhere. G-SAYE has lost its tail plane so maybe that has gone to be fitted to G-LGIS (corrosion in the tail maybe). G-SAYE has -10 variant engines that are higher spec than G-LGIS's -5 variants, so maybe these could be swapped. All complete guesswork on my part, but would fit with the story about a composite a/c being produced, but not such drastic work that it would make it unlikely.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 08:20
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ATR72 G-COBO

Returned to Guernsey yesterday evening while operating GR608 Guernsey-Gatwick. The crew reported "computer problems" and were instructed by Ops not to continue to LGW. The return track from overhead the Isle of Wight took the aircraft near to the French coast and on to a very long final for r/w 27 at Guernsey. After a normal landing most of the pax were transferred to GR610 operated by EMB195 G-NSEY.
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 17:48
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And GR656 G-HUET turned back tonight - was just passed ACI - What is going on?
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 19:11
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I noticed that too. Is there some kind of software problem causing this? Yesterday's flight (according to the crew) could have continued to LGW but Ops wanted G-COBO back in Guernsey rather than having a u/s aircraft in Gatwick overnight. I recall over the course of the year seeing a number of Aurigny ATR flights on radar turn back to Guernsey. Can anyone enlighten?
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 20:25
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New ATR

How many seats does the latest ATR have? I believe Aurigny seat 72Y but Azul had 68Y. Will they be operating this one with 4 less seats?
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Old 18th Nov 2016, 07:48
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New ATR
How many seats does the latest ATR have? I believe Aurigny seat 72Y but Azul had 68Y. Will they be operating this one with 4 less seats?

G-LERE has 72 seats - just like G-COBO & G-VZON. The only difference is that G-LERE has all seats forward facing whereas the front rows on both -BO and -ON are rear-facing.
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Old 18th Nov 2016, 14:24
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re: G-LERE

Thanks @Gurnard, appreciated!
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Old 18th Nov 2016, 16:13
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Thanks @Gurnard, appreciated!


You're welcome!
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