Aurigny Air Services
Yes, Aurigny will be ticketless by spring, but that doesn't mean you have to give up your ticket desk. Flybe, Easyjet, Ryanair are all ticketless airlines but still retain sales desks at airports....
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The real reason for closing the ticket desk is the Airport authorities will be using the area concerned for a new coffee bar and toilets when they revamp the terminal. The entry to security search area will be moved close to the check-in desks. The ticket desk is in the way and there is no where else to put it!! The staff will be ticketing from the check-in area and also using an office airside for online and fax bookings.
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Ticket Desk?
GBALU53 makes a very good point there.
Aurigny's main competitor on the inter-Island route doesn't have a ticket desk and they are going from strength to strength.
Perhaps It's just a sign of the times, rather than impending doom.
I do feel for the people who may lose their jobs though.
Aurigny's main competitor on the inter-Island route doesn't have a ticket desk and they are going from strength to strength.
Perhaps It's just a sign of the times, rather than impending doom.
I do feel for the people who may lose their jobs though.
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New Year Questions
Has AURIGNY been successful and got the two mail contract for next year??
Will they also be after the Paper contract to the islands with Air Contractors ATR fleet dwindling??
There has been talk of another ATR72 about to join the company is this going to be the Atlantic aircraft G-HERM when it finishes on the 15th of January when the Stansted service finishes??
This aircraft should be operating down in the islands as one of the smaller Channel Islands is HERM which is just off the east coast of Guernsey.
Lets hear some good news for all in the Islands instead of doom and gloom. like the weather,
Has AURIGNY been successful and got the two mail contract for next year??
Will they also be after the Paper contract to the islands with Air Contractors ATR fleet dwindling??
There has been talk of another ATR72 about to join the company is this going to be the Atlantic aircraft G-HERM when it finishes on the 15th of January when the Stansted service finishes??
This aircraft should be operating down in the islands as one of the smaller Channel Islands is HERM which is just off the east coast of Guernsey.
Lets hear some good news for all in the Islands instead of doom and gloom. like the weather,
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New Year Questions
Has AURIGNY been successful and got the two mail contract for next year??
Will they also be after the Paper contract to the islands with Air Contractors ATR fleet dwindling??
There has been talk of another ATR72 about to join the company is this going to be the Atlantic aircraft G-HERM when it finishes on the 15th of January when the Stansted service finishes??
This aircraft should be operating down in the islands as one of the smaller Channel Islands is HERM which is just off the east coast of Guernsey.
Lets hear some good news for all in the Islands instead of doom and gloom. like the weather,
Has AURIGNY been successful and got the two mail contract for next year??
Will they also be after the Paper contract to the islands with Air Contractors ATR fleet dwindling??
There has been talk of another ATR72 about to join the company is this going to be the Atlantic aircraft G-HERM when it finishes on the 15th of January when the Stansted service finishes??
This aircraft should be operating down in the islands as one of the smaller Channel Islands is HERM which is just off the east coast of Guernsey.
Lets hear some good news for all in the Islands instead of doom and gloom. like the weather,
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This mornings daily papers down to the Islands were by Atlantic ATPs so no luck there by the look of it, for Aurigny getting the Paper contract.
From what I can make out the daily newspapers were on the same aircraft as the mail as a combined charter so is this the same with the Atlantic ATP?
If so no Aurigny mail into Guernsey.
This afternoon the is a positioning flight out of Guernsey for the early moning flight down to Jersey tomorrow but how long will this be happening.
The Jersey mail contract might not have been fully dealt with so there might be hope there although it is pointing out to be a Atlantic Electra that might be doing this in the not to distant future.
If all this is correct the new year is not looking very good.
From what I can make out the daily newspapers were on the same aircraft as the mail as a combined charter so is this the same with the Atlantic ATP?
If so no Aurigny mail into Guernsey.
This afternoon the is a positioning flight out of Guernsey for the early moning flight down to Jersey tomorrow but how long will this be happening.
The Jersey mail contract might not have been fully dealt with so there might be hope there although it is pointing out to be a Atlantic Electra that might be doing this in the not to distant future.
If all this is correct the new year is not looking very good.
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No haven' heard anything, but I have noticed that this week Aurigny only have 6 flights a day between Guernsey and Jersey whereas BlueIslands are up to their full schedule each day.
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Would the States of Guernsey be preparred to sell off the inter Island flight to Blueislands?
What is making money for the company the ATR fleet with a little help from the Trislander fleet?
Trislanders are getting a bit long in the tooth, when Aurigny operated the Twin Otter is was a step forward but not viable inter islands, the shed came on the scene and now dropped for a number of reasons, so the very big question is tis he inter islands worth keeping hold of??
With the dissapontment of not getting some of the contracts that they were going for will they be dropping the idea of getting three more ATRs two were for the mail contracts plus one other.
What is making money for the company the ATR fleet with a little help from the Trislander fleet?
Trislanders are getting a bit long in the tooth, when Aurigny operated the Twin Otter is was a step forward but not viable inter islands, the shed came on the scene and now dropped for a number of reasons, so the very big question is tis he inter islands worth keeping hold of??
With the dissapontment of not getting some of the contracts that they were going for will they be dropping the idea of getting three more ATRs two were for the mail contracts plus one other.
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Considering recent events, Aurigny may as well take over Titan as it seems their aircraft are used far more than Aurigny's own ATR's. Aurigny do not seem to be cutting it anymore in the Channel Islands, I would still choose them (provided the flight is cheaper or the same price) over FlyBE on the UK routes, but now even if the price is higher, would much rather fly BlueIslands Inter-Island, much more comfortable and the staff offer a much more personal service. But FlyBE now that is a joke!! Aurigny all the way on UK routes!!
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Expansion Of Ayline????????
Picked this little number up yesterday Aurigny will be getting two ATR 72 500 to operate on the currant schedule network especially on the Gatwick to compete with the Dash of Flymaybe.
If this is correct this will release the other two ATR 72s that operate these schedule and go and start doing new routes out of the Islands??
One of the routes could be the Jersey-Leeds that Britich Midland dropped a number of years back due to Thompson and Doncaster another route was the reintroduction of the Jersey-Stansted.
This could be all pie in the Sky we will have to wait and see.
I also understand there is connections between Aurigny-Ex Air Wales and Flightline management some thing like buddies together, so the connection with the two little ATR42s becomes some what clearer in the picture.
If this is correct this will release the other two ATR 72s that operate these schedule and go and start doing new routes out of the Islands??
One of the routes could be the Jersey-Leeds that Britich Midland dropped a number of years back due to Thompson and Doncaster another route was the reintroduction of the Jersey-Stansted.
This could be all pie in the Sky we will have to wait and see.
I also understand there is connections between Aurigny-Ex Air Wales and Flightline management some thing like buddies together, so the connection with the two little ATR42s becomes some what clearer in the picture.
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Profit ???
I nearly choked on my cornflakes this morning. On the local radio news they say that Aurigny made a profit last year ! Half a mil.
Anyone got any more info ? Well done Aurigny staff.
Anyone got any more info ? Well done Aurigny staff.
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Profit?
Was the person interviewed and accountant or was it Mr H himself being a state owned they have to say to joe and his public look how good we are performing we mad so and so profit.
What about the staff that were put down the road could they tell a differant story which could be more correct?
Was the half million due to the mail contract?
There is no mail contract now this year they have cut back on a lot of staff in Jersey some to do with no mail contract and the other there is no ticket desk is this due to a lot more people using the internet to do bookinks?
The number of flights on some days have been cut back, is this due to the Blueislands Jersey-Guernsey-Jersey operation?
Interesting article in a local airport paper stating that interisland traffic increased by 12 percent has all the extra traffic gone to Blueislands?
Aurigny lost some big business when a certain company bought two Cessna Caravan aircraft one for freight and the other a passenger one to move there Managers between the islands which they do two or three flight a day monday to friday,these passenger used Aurigny up untill 18 months or so ago.
What about the staff that were put down the road could they tell a differant story which could be more correct?
Was the half million due to the mail contract?
There is no mail contract now this year they have cut back on a lot of staff in Jersey some to do with no mail contract and the other there is no ticket desk is this due to a lot more people using the internet to do bookinks?
The number of flights on some days have been cut back, is this due to the Blueislands Jersey-Guernsey-Jersey operation?
Interesting article in a local airport paper stating that interisland traffic increased by 12 percent has all the extra traffic gone to Blueislands?
Aurigny lost some big business when a certain company bought two Cessna Caravan aircraft one for freight and the other a passenger one to move there Managers between the islands which they do two or three flight a day monday to friday,these passenger used Aurigny up untill 18 months or so ago.
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I doubt if anyone would get away with lying about making a profit for very long..... and Blue Island's profit/loss was... ? The point is you cannot make money running J31's inter-island and there's absolutely no point in wittering on about getting new aircraft and new routes if you're haemoraging (spelling, sorry) money with the old ones. Unfortunately there is no viable replacement for the Trislanders and Viscounts/Daks are museum pieces and cost an arm and a leg to operate.
Oh well, it all makes for interesting electronic debate but you still come back to the fact that there is a limited market in the CI and always will be. Incidentally there comes a point where if you as a company are spending a small fortune on airfares, it becomes viable to operate your own aircraft, particularly if you want to shift a lot of fresh produce around and there is limited freight capacity available.
Oh well, it all makes for interesting electronic debate but you still come back to the fact that there is a limited market in the CI and always will be. Incidentally there comes a point where if you as a company are spending a small fortune on airfares, it becomes viable to operate your own aircraft, particularly if you want to shift a lot of fresh produce around and there is limited freight capacity available.
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The "profit" announced for Aurigny Air Services has to be looked at in the context of the whole group. With the two companies, AAS and ANAE, in the group, figures can be manipulated/spun how you like. AAS is charged by ANAE for work done; reduce the price for that and AAS profit goes up while ANAE loss increases, and vv. All legitimate stuff, but designed to obscure the real results.
The overall profit of the group is about half the announced profit, ie around £250K, and is a pathetic, virtually nil, return on the group turnover.
Manipulating depreciation is another way of reducing/increasing "proft", usually employed to minimise tax.
Ignore the upbeat publicity and look at the facts. The Aurigny Group is a financial basket case.
The overall profit of the group is about half the announced profit, ie around £250K, and is a pathetic, virtually nil, return on the group turnover.
Manipulating depreciation is another way of reducing/increasing "proft", usually employed to minimise tax.
Ignore the upbeat publicity and look at the facts. The Aurigny Group is a financial basket case.
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Thats the plan, but it still languishes at GCI alongside the shed G-BPFN which was damaged in gales during the winter, they are both awaiting spares and space in hangar to start work on them.