Wikiposts
Search
Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

British Airways

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12th Mar 2007, 13:31
  #321 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lemonia. Best Greek in the world
Posts: 1,759
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Slot ownership

Slot ownsership is a fun thing. BMI "bought" BMed, and immediately sold the slots at LHR to BA.
So, the BA liveried "BMED" flights are actually protecting a BA asset.
Ancient Observer is offline  
Old 12th Mar 2007, 13:55
  #322 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
GBALU53

No engineering has ever been made on the a/c positioned into Cardiff other than when it went tech, The reports in the news forgets to mention that for a month after Christmas,the a/c did not position to CWL because of either BMED moving offices or ATC which meant that no traffic were to take off unless it had to.

During the time of the Fog were most UK airport were effected it was sent out to do a rescue mission to collect bags that had been left behind.

BMED has slots that will be lost if they don't use them, which they wanted to keep. What else can they do (except to use a smaller a/c on lease), i'm not sure if it would cost them more to do so.
mathers_wales_uk is offline  
Old 12th Mar 2007, 16:49
  #323 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lets see how successful BAs new LGW-NQY daily service is. B737-436 with a 2 hour turnaround in NQY... Keeping the slots open by 'ghost-flighting' or what... (Certainly not as canny as the LHR-CWL flights)

Dont get me wrong, I love Newquay. Great place and great people but come on, A daily B737-436 (146 seater) is just a little over the top... Leave it to the specialist airlines like AirSouthwest, who operate the right size aircraft and are a local company.

Another case of Bully-boy antics by Wishy Washy and the 'Dream Team' at Waterworld.
tristar500 is offline  
Old 12th Mar 2007, 17:55
  #324 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 951
Received 15 Likes on 9 Posts
The airlines (or rather a select brotherhood of airlines) control slots at LHR and many other airports, through a company they own called ACL.

Much as BAA has lost the plot about most things, they are innocent in this case.

In the context of nursing slots, ask BMI the reasons for its new LHR/JER service starting March 25th. Good use of slot assets? Hardly. Keeping the slots warm until a better opportunity opens up, such as more crossings of the pond? Yup, but don't tell them in St Helier.
old,not bold is offline  
Old 12th Mar 2007, 20:52
  #325 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In a 737!
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just a couple of thoughts.

Firstly, wouldn't it be better if BMED was allowed to lease the slot to another airline for however long they are not using it? I'm sure there are plenty of airlines out there who would like to use it. Without BMED losing the slot in the interim. Surely that would be a logical solution, rather than forcing the airline into wasting loads of money operating a makeshift flying club!

Secondly, in reply to tristar500, I also thought it was a bit strange that BA have started flying to NQY from LHR, especially with a 734. But having said that Ryanair fly there once a day with an -800 (189 seats), and that used to be twice a day until NQY put up their pax charges. So there must be a market, 'cos believe me FR wouldn't operate the flight for long if it wasn't making them money.
Flaps5speed180 is offline  
Old 13th Mar 2007, 10:57
  #326 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 7,651
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Originally Posted by aspaceman
The change will be when BMI use the slots which they have bought to operate an A330 back and forward on LHR to JFK under the new european open skies agreement.
Whatever makes anyone think that BMI would have anything other than a fiasco on their hands with a LHR-JFK service, when United, well established as a transatlantic carrier at both ends, a fellow Star Alliance carrier and with a huge Frequent Flyer following, finally gave up exactly the same route this year after a long decline because they were just squeezed out by the others ?
WHBM is offline  
Old 15th Mar 2007, 10:30
  #327 (permalink)  

A Runyonesque Character
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: The South of France ... Not
Age: 74
Posts: 1,209
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
BA loses ECJ appeal - and €6.8 million

http://curia.europa.eu/en/actu/commu...cp070023en.pdf

Is this airline jinxed or what?

They will need another season of protection at LHR to pay the fine.
The SSK is offline  
Old 15th Mar 2007, 11:46
  #328 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Flaps5speed180
Firstly, wouldn't it be better if BMED was allowed to lease the slot to another airline for however long they are not using it? I'm sure there are plenty of airlines out there who would like to use it. Without BMED losing the slot in the interim. Surely that would be a logical solution, rather than forcing the airline into wasting loads of money operating a makeshift flying club!
Actually, they are allowed to do this. Airlines do "slot babysitting" deals like this with each other from time to time. The problem probably was that - since BMED is hoping to use the slot again reasonably soon - it's not very attractive to another airline - they would use it to start a service but then have to drop it within a matter of months when BMED took the slot back.
Cyrano is offline  
Old 15th Mar 2007, 13:14
  #329 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Coventry
Age: 48
Posts: 1,946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think we have to remember that our industry is subject to some of the most hysterical outbursts going, and that if a pilot so much as coughs in the wrong manner, suspicions will be aroused.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/tra...cle2359090.ece

Is another example of the latest barking mad journalism - whipped up entirely by Mr Brown (as in Jonathan, the author, not the greedy chancellor) no doubt.

This article is having a go at BA for operating more short haul routes from LCY. It even suggests that people should take the train (7 hours) to Frankfurt - come on!

But if the airlines themselves don't get together to talk some sense, they only have themselves to blame. I haven't seen any of them yet point out that targetting domestic flights for more taxes is not needed, as they already pay TWICE the rate of APD!
jabird is offline  
Old 26th Mar 2007, 13:38
  #330 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 896
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just noticed this about BA Cityflyer in this weeks Flight Magazine World Airline Directory

"British Airways subsidiary that has been set up follwoing the sale of BA Connect to Flybe to operate scheduled services from London City Airport. The domestic services link London City with Birmingham, Bristol, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Glasgow & Manchester. While the international network serves 17 destinations in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Switzerland"

Interesting number of destinations seem to have appeared (or a journalistic c**k up!)
FlyboyUK is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2007, 20:12
  #331 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BA/IB Merger

http://www.uk-airport-news.info/heat...ews-260307.htm

I have read this article, and have afew questions that I would like to bring up:

1. At the moment, LH, AF/KLM, FR and AB are the four largest airlines on European flights (no. of slots). If BA were to merge with IB, would this put BA ahead of all 4 of these airlines? IB operate a HUGE number of domestic flights through Air Nostrum and on their mainline stream (operating the most frequent flights on a domestic route in the world - MAD-BCN), and BA has a HUGE presence at LHR and LGW, although it has sold it's domestic arm (BA Connect)?

2. Where would BA then fit into the league tables as the world largest airline on passenger numbers? They would be up there with the other big boys, such as LH and CO, maybe not AA and DL.

3. If they were to merge, would this mean the end of Clickair in anybody's opinions, or would BA see this as a great way in which to attack the LCCs, by allowing Clickair to maybe take over some of the shorter LHR routes, such as CDG, AMS and FRA, orffering the extremly cheap fares, but operate from the LHR. This would certainly not help FR and EZY at STN, LGW and LTN! Imagine that-being able to connect through LHR on a Loco flight!

Anyway, the deal may never happen, and if it were to, it is early days, but I would be very happy to hear about your opinions, and what you think will happen.

Cheers.
MUFC_fan is offline  
Old 27th Mar 2007, 22:16
  #332 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Scotland
Posts: 354
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Flyboy ; think its a c**k up. Why would you want to fly from London to Birmingham, almost as quick to drive.
towser is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2007, 07:35
  #333 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 896
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exactly my thoughts which is why I posted the piece, likewise with Bristol & East Midlands.
FlyboyUK is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2007, 14:37
  #334 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,974
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BA/BMI

it's stated in the papers today that BA may make a 1 billion bid for BMI for its slots at LHR making BA 53% of slots at LHR
HH6702 is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2007, 14:49
  #335 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BA CityFlyer

Originally Posted by FlyboyUK
"British Airways subsidiary that has been set up follwoing the sale of BA Connect to Flybe to operate scheduled services from London City Airport. The domestic services link London City with Birmingham, Bristol, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Glasgow & Manchester. While the international network serves 17 destinations in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Switzerland."
Further to towser's comment: by my count, BA's international destinations from LCY are Frankfurt, Zurich, Milan and Madrid. That's quite a way from 17 (even if you also count their two domestic destinations, GLA and EDI), and misses Austria, Belgium, and France from the list as well. Looks as though they mistakenly sent the April 1 joke world-domination press release to Flight International by mistake...
Cyrano is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2007, 18:40
  #336 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: 6 miles 14
Posts: 641
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Does anyone know which engines the new 777-200s will have? Given the majority of the fleet is GE does this have the advantage or did BA buy RR on the later ships due to being unhappy with the GE engine? Any operators out there know which is the better performing engine, SFC, Reliability etc. TIA.
HOODED is offline  
Old 28th Mar 2007, 18:56
  #337 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Manchester
Posts: 939
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BACityFlyer...

Perhaps Flight did a block copy of last year's BAConnect entry and forgot to amend it?!
Ringwayman is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2007, 09:49
  #338 (permalink)  
Paxing All Over The World
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hertfordshire, UK.
Age: 67
Posts: 10,149
Received 62 Likes on 50 Posts
BA tops lost luggage league table
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6524639.stm
Wednesday, 4 April 2007, 06:16 GMT 07:16 UK

British Airways lost more luggage than any other major European airline last year, figures have shown. For every 1,000 passengers carried by BA in 2006, 23 bags went missing according to data from the Association of European Airlines (AEA).

The UK's Air Transport Users Council (AUC) which released the figures said BA had admitted its performance was not good enough and had apologised. Across the 24 largest airlines, more than 5.6 million bags went missing. This is an average of 15.7 bags per 1,000 travellers.

About 85% of missing bags were returned to their owners within 48 hours, the AEA said, but it added that some "never get returned at all".
[article continues]
PAXboy is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2007, 18:02
  #339 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In fairness isn't it down to the airport belt system and the handling agents for lost luggage rather than the airline itself.

The Airline only carries the luggage from A 2 B if it's on-board and fills in the Property Irregularity Report at the Destination.

Could be many reason's it was left behind beyond the controll of the airline.
  • Passenger Sent back from Security as hand luggage is (too big, has liquids or other restricted items) and dispatcher has accepted the bag providing it reaches the a/c in time.
  • Bag had fallen off the baggage trolley en-route to the a/c.
  • Bag has been trapped on the baggage belt or possibly fallen off at the back.
  • Bag picked up by another passenger by mistake.
  • Tag fallen of bag at Departure airport.
The only reason i can see if it is the airlines fault is if the bag has had to be removed from the a/c due to a/c weight restrictions or a/c overweight.

cheers
mathers_wales_uk is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2007, 17:34
  #340 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why don't BA operate Business class only flights across the Atlantic? LH,KLM and LX all fly from their bases in thier own territory to either EWR or IAH. Why aren't BA following suit? This is also the case of AF, who operate A319s to the Middle East.

Is it because BA are able to fill up a plane in all three classes to wherever they fly to from LHR?
MUFC_fan is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.