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Old 10th Feb 2014, 00:16
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Frank - the rules around Govt tenders being written and publicised give failed bidders opportunity to sue when a Govt body makes a mistake or is seen to discriminate unfairly between private companies. Perhaps listing Heathrow as a valid option of London airport is nothing more than an a**e-covering exercise in this regard so as to prove Dundee is following Govt procedures strictly, or at least can claim a defence against discrimination in a potential litigation outcome ?
Interesting point, makes sense!
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Old 10th Feb 2014, 16:36
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Closing date for PSO is 7th April 2014

PSO tenders are required by 7th April 2014 and the PSO operator will be appointed at the conclusion of this procurement exercise.
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Had to laugh at the comments attributed to a Dundee Politician :
“As a user of this service, I regularly speak with business passengers who tell me that a connection between London and Dundee is good for business and vital for the city’s economy.”
I guess any of the 15 passengers on the City flight would say that !

He goes on to say:
“Our airport can be a success with the right investment, better marketing, more routes and competitive prices.
I have to wonder if he even knows how many passengers it would take to cover the £2m costs of keeping the airport open or how much more infrastructure the airport would need to service that number of passengers.

It appears that the subsidy for the new London route is £200,000

I recall one of the reasons that Sheffield built an airport was that it was the largest city in Europe without its own airport, it seems that some cities don't need their own airport.

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Aid being phased out?

Ive just noticed a link on another website suggesting that aid to small regional airfields is to be phased out, anyone heard of this before?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/bu...orts.html?_r=1

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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 07:07
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Originally Posted by bad bear
Ive just noticed a link on another website suggesting that aid to small regional airfields is to be phased out, anyone heard of this before?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/bu...orts.html?_r=1

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New EC state aid guidelines, effect pretty much the opposite of your summary (only smaller regional airports will be able to continue receiving aid): Commission clarifies state aid guidelines for airports | European Voice
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 08:59
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MoD open to Leuchars becoming passenger airport - The Scotsman

Is this just fluff, or would commercial passenger services have a chance of working at Leuchars ? Discuss...
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 11:07
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Is this just fluff, or would commercial passenger services have a chance of working at Leuchars ? Discuss...
A right sized FBO for business aviation is a possibility, however no one sensible has ever said "What the central belt really needs is yet another airport."
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 14:52
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Ahhh, Dundee (Leuchars) - Carlisle - Luton, Autair Airspeed Ambassador, 1969!

But no-one knows yet what the airside facilities at Leuchars will be like after the Army takes over. Runway etc for UAS Tutors yes, but radar? ILS? PAR?

Seems to me a Leuchars option would only make sense if Riverside is closed completely, which would be a shame. And then the Army would have to make it possible for all the regular based civil traffic at Dundee to operate from Leuchars with sensible security access etc.

I can't see it happening.
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Old 28th Feb 2014, 15:56
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I'd normally criticise schemes such as this, but I think there's room for a couple of routes driven by N Fife/Dundee demand, plus the obvious inbound attraction. I wouldn't see it as an alternative to EDI for FR though, I can't imagine many pax heading to Edinburgh itself would want to travel to Leuchars when they can fly to EDI with other airlines, even if FR were offering giveaway fares.

I'm not sure any of the logistical issues are insurmountable tbh, I think they could all be sorted. The problem is there's no terminal and the only way you're going to get one is public funding - I can't see any such funding being forthcoming and complaints from GIP EDI would be vociferous to say the least. Given the EU aid rules mentioned earlier aim to prevent the development of excess airport capacity through state subsidy, they could cause trouble too.

At the end of the day, this comes up every 6 months or so and it will probably never amount to anything.
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MoD open to Leuchars becoming passenger airport - The Scotsman

Is this just fluff, or would commercial passenger services have a chance of working at Leuchars ? Discuss...
There's no point: it does not have the convenience of Dundee-Riverside, and is closer to Edinburgh-Turnhouse. What commercial traffic would be attracted to RAF Leuchars that cannot be at Dundee-Riverside?
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Feb passenger figures show a surprising drop to1498 about 24 % down on last year.

I wonder if the government £20 M will help attract new routes?

Is it this weekend that the flights move from City to Stansted ?




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Any news on passenger numbers on the new Stansted route ?

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Old 2nd Apr 2014, 08:02
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The Dundee Courier reported the service on monday morning got off to a "quiet start". 14 pax down to STN with 7 pax going back. Not great for a monday morning, which is probably the busiest of the week.
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14 passengers sounds like a good start., I had thought it would be quiet. The courier article suggested that there is a £400,000 subsidy for this route, how long will that last and what happens if it runs out?

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14

Quite a few members of the press apparently.
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7 pax ? Youre having a laugh. And at the tax payers expense ?
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PSO

I suppose its only a few more days to wait until the announcement is made of which airline wins the PSO contract to operate Dundee - London.

7th April is the closing date.
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Any news on who got the PSO contract yet?

I have to admit I'm more than curious as to how the Stansted route is going, does anybody have any numbers?


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Old 28th Apr 2014, 15:22
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News

Dundee Airport still has a 'future for flights to London' despite new Edinburgh route - Local / News / The Evening Telegraph
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Dundee to Stansted passenger figures for April: 1297 approx 20 per day each way. Good or bad?

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