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shocking security at LHR
Hi All
I know how much of a pain security clearances are, going through customs etc but how about this for poor.
I have recently got a part time job at LHR in a warehouse trying to save for my atpl. One my first day i parked outside the shed, some lads were smoking outside, i introduced myself as being a new starter, was led inside the warehouse not seeing any manager/supervisor at all.
No passes or checks had been completed (i havent even filled in an application form!!) they had no details of me what so ever. I walked striaght threw and went airside, with no passes and found myself 50ft from a parked up 747-400...
Most of the staff there regularly go for walks airside when bored, and the guys driving the fork lifts airside dont have licenses or airsides passes.
I couldnt believe it, would'nt have been hard for me to slip something in one of the aircraft bins i was loading or wander of airside and cause havoc.
Warehouse man
I know how much of a pain security clearances are, going through customs etc but how about this for poor.
I have recently got a part time job at LHR in a warehouse trying to save for my atpl. One my first day i parked outside the shed, some lads were smoking outside, i introduced myself as being a new starter, was led inside the warehouse not seeing any manager/supervisor at all.
No passes or checks had been completed (i havent even filled in an application form!!) they had no details of me what so ever. I walked striaght threw and went airside, with no passes and found myself 50ft from a parked up 747-400...
Most of the staff there regularly go for walks airside when bored, and the guys driving the fork lifts airside dont have licenses or airsides passes.
I couldnt believe it, would'nt have been hard for me to slip something in one of the aircraft bins i was loading or wander of airside and cause havoc.
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why do people here always just shoot people down?!! all i was trying to do was highlight what any sane/sensible person would think is a risk? maybe i shouldnt say anything to management then and let it slide eh??
idiots.
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I think that operators with aircraft maintenance areas, cargo warehouses etc are supposed to manage their own security so "authorised" personnel only can access their secure areas, including where aircraft park. Many of these areas are leased by the operators concerned and therefore may not come under the same UK DfT regulations as for controlled and restricted airside areas. However I understand EU Security requirements may require this situation to change.
What you say suggests that the warehouse is mis-managed, so for you it may be best to consider financing your ATPL by another means.
What you say suggests that the warehouse is mis-managed, so for you it may be best to consider financing your ATPL by another means.
Warehouse Man,
Most airport security is a total sham. It's based on fooling the public into thinking that they're safe. Large airports are in reality a security nightmare and it is totally impossible to keep them anywhere near 100% secure. Those on here who mock you obviously don't work at airports because they would know! Don't waste your time getting frustrated. Do your work, collect your pay and stay focused on obtaining your ATPL.
Most airport security is a total sham. It's based on fooling the public into thinking that they're safe. Large airports are in reality a security nightmare and it is totally impossible to keep them anywhere near 100% secure. Those on here who mock you obviously don't work at airports because they would know! Don't waste your time getting frustrated. Do your work, collect your pay and stay focused on obtaining your ATPL.
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Imagine in 2009 if we are re-reading this after a 747 is blown apart over London on departure from Heathrow, after an Islamic terrorist acts on this weakspot. Surely, without being hysterical, this is a serious matter that needs addressing today.
Let's also remember that we must be aware that Osama's acolytes are also capable of reading pprune.....
Let's also remember that we must be aware that Osama's acolytes are also capable of reading pprune.....
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I work in freight and I can assure you that all parts of the airport are covered by Dft requirements and rather than worry about the guys spelling we should worry about the lack of security.
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Exactly which cargo shed are you referring to ??
Because as far as I know the only one that has direct ramp access is BA, and the chance of getting out through the front and out the back are virtually impossible.
Surely this isn't a journo coming out with a load of lies looking for stories ....
Because as far as I know the only one that has direct ramp access is BA, and the chance of getting out through the front and out the back are virtually impossible.
Surely this isn't a journo coming out with a load of lies looking for stories ....
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Warehouse Man,
Perhaps you should be saving for your ATPL instead, you may find it annoying but............. being factually and grammatically accurate is what separates us men from the boys. Comprehensively.
Perhaps you should be saving for your ATPL instead, you may find it annoying but............. being factually and grammatically accurate is what separates us men from the boys. Comprehensively.
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Warehouse Man, Are you a Journo in disguise
Getting a Job without filling in a application form
Question : To work as a freelance Journo, do you have to fill a form
Stay clear from this Forum Journo, I am sure you will be back under a different name
Getting a Job without filling in a application form
Question : To work as a freelance Journo, do you have to fill a form
Stay clear from this Forum Journo, I am sure you will be back under a different name
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Please don't shoot the messenger. Lack of security is something that puts us all at risk. And don't just assume that UK airport terminal security as practised by the BAA is really making us any safer.
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Greedy BA**A***
Beware if you're hoping to pick someone up from LHR T4 - you now have to park inthe short term car park, which costs Ģ1.50 to get in and (I think) 9p a minute after that! It cost me Ģ1.70 and was only there for 2-3 minutes, tops! 
To further wind everyone up, the traffic management into T4 is appalling - queues back to the roundabout at 8am Sunday!
Ll
To further wind everyone up, the traffic management into T4 is appalling - queues back to the roundabout at 8am Sunday!
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I can assure you all I am not a jorno! as some of you have pointed out my spelling is not of the required standard to work for the papers! (normally because my g/f is rushing me to get of pprune as "dancing on ice" is on and she wants me to watch it with her 
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Today again i was 50ft from a 747, most cargo sheds have airside access, horse shoe and sandringham road. I was told today that the warehouse staff normally go up to the in-flight caterers and get them to throw down meals! none of these people have a/s passes.
When i left for work for the day the supervisers were outside the front of the shed smoking dope, these are the same goons that drive the forklifts airside.
I have however been informed that the company is trying to arrange passes, so hopfully the bosses are aware of the issues..
)Today again i was 50ft from a 747, most cargo sheds have airside access, horse shoe and sandringham road. I was told today that the warehouse staff normally go up to the in-flight caterers and get them to throw down meals! none of these people have a/s passes.
When i left for work for the day the supervisers were outside the front of the shed smoking dope, these are the same goons that drive the forklifts airside.
I have however been informed that the company is trying to arrange passes, so hopfully the bosses are aware of the issues..
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BA, the main airline based at the terminal, is warning its customers that they may not be able to travel if they have luggage to be checked in.
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Just had the daughter on the phone in tears stuck that mess Having to get transfered to a Gatwick flight to Oman tonight
That's a day gone out of her holiday already, bet the BAA don't give a damn or any sort of compensation either.
WHAT A SHAMBLES !!! B.A.A. SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELFS.
But I suppose they will just hand themselfs a nice big bonus
Having to get transfered to a Gatwick flight to Oman tonight That's a day gone out of her holiday already, bet the BAA don't give a damn or any sort of compensation either.
WHAT A SHAMBLES !!! B.A.A. SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELFS.
But I suppose they will just hand themselfs a nice big bonus