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Old 18th Sep 2014, 16:06
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I'm not interested in Norman Foster's work one way or the other. in his defence - when he designed the STN terminal, no one guessed that the mgmt would subsequently fill it to the roof with shops and boxes and cabins and check ins. The 'open aspect' area with the view of the roof that he designed - vanished.
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 00:24
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Plenty of airlines have left Terminal 1 since the start of the summer, and the bulk of what's left are due to leave by the end of next week (26th October).
It seems there will be a very small number of flights remaining at T1 from 26-Oct-2014 onwards, namely:

British Airways - Amman, Baku, Beirut, Cairo, Hannover, Luxembourg, Lyon, Marseille, Rotterdam
El Al - Tel Aviv
Icelandair - Reykjavik
TAM - Sao Paulo

Yes, really very few flights per day.

Are there plans for retail units to largely close their doors given the reduced number of passengers and for much of T1 to be substantially boarded up on 27-Oct-2014, ready for the demolition crews ? Alternatively, will the terminal remain completely open, albeit with some deserted corridors, well into 2015 ?
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Old 17th Oct 2014, 12:23
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Pier 4 and Pier 4A (The Green Mile) Domestic and ROI will be closing end of summer scheds. I suspect the remainder will stagger on.

TAM will be T3 bound, El Al to T4 with Icelandair. T4 is almost empty these days now Delta are T3 bound.
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Old 24th Oct 2014, 08:21
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Last couple of days for Pier 4 and Pier 4A domestic and Dublin flights. When they stop it will be the end of incoming and outgoing paxs mixing airside at LHR. Is gate 8 likely to be used for international departures? Suppose the issue would be separation of incoming paxs.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 17:22
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All this talk of Terminal changes.... should QR not be moving to T3 and MEA in the other direction?
Also AI to T2 at some point soon?
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Old 13th Nov 2014, 06:38
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The natives are getting restless re Heathrow. They have just discovered that, since last December, there has been a trial of slightly different departure routes.
BBC News - Heathrow airspace trials: Life under the flight path
One poor woman discovered one day she had "a big jumbo jet on top of her house".
Says a lot for the standard of construction of houses in Ascot, if her house could withstand all that weight!
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Old 13th Nov 2014, 06:57
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The natives are getting restless re Heathrow. They have just discovered that, since last December, there has been a trial of slightly different departure routes.
The trials that started last December (DOKEN1 SIDs and easterly Midhurst noise dispersion) finished in mid-June.

It's the subsequent westerly SID trial that started in late August (and which has now ended) that the BBC is getting confused about.
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Old 13th Nov 2014, 21:25
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"a big jumbo jet on top of her house".
How photogenic of the BBC to provide aircraft landing pictures over properties known to be close to LHR, as opposed to 3000ft departures over Ascot.
When folk see the HAL brochure "Taking Britain further" pages 50 & 51, on the third runway plans, which also includes the construction further north & west they will conclude it will not go ahead, irrespective of employment/business development.
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Old 13th Nov 2014, 23:12
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This is Nimbyism at its worst.
As far as I can tell, most aircraft departing in the direction of Ascot actually are turning south before they reach Ascot.
And the other poor lamb, concerned about Bagshot & Lightwater hasn't a clue what she is talking about. Any aircraft venturing in that direction are generally heading for 4 to 5 thousand feet. That is getting on for a mile above! And as for all these jumbo jets waking her up after midnight, she is having a laugh.
Add to that the location of the proposed new runway, putting departing aircraft much further away, it begins to sound like moaning for the sake of moaning.
Anyway, at the speed things move here, by the time the 3rd runway is built, there won't be a need for it. We will be getting beamed from A to B in our personal intergalactic transporter systems!
And probably the EU will have passed legislation by then prohibiting powered flight on noise and pollution grounds so look out for some bloody big gliders in the area!
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 04:41
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Maximum number of stands

Can someone inform me of the total number of aircraft stands at LHR

T1
T2
T3
T4
T5
Cargo
Maintenance
Private
TOTAL AIRPORT STANDS

Has the airport ever reached 100% (or close to) of it's aircraft stand capacity?
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 06:26
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I had to look into the recent Heathrow flight trials here in Bracknell for our local Neighbourhood Action Group. The press coverage has been awful to put it mildly. It seemed started by a small group in the Ascot area who happened to have few overflights before and suddenly were under the trial routes (at 3000ft+). Bracknell councillors got on the bandwagon even though completely different routes passed over here. Yes, some of the planes came a little closer to my area but not significantly different as from what we have had for many years. FR24 tells you a lot - and a jumbo at 5000ft a mile away still looks quite large...
The trials ended yesterday, I imagine people will still complain.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 06:39
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Total stands available here : NATS | AIS under London Heathrow and relevant terminals. Runway capacity runs out before parking nowadays.
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Old 15th Nov 2014, 07:57
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As far as I can tell, most aircraft departing in the direction of Ascot actually are turning south before they reach Ascot
Slides 14 and 15 of

http://www.heathrowairport.com/stati...esentation.pdf

show the changes to routes over Ascot and the surrounding area
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 13:44
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looks like most people had less overflights but some had the whole lot very accurately placed over their houses

guess who complains???/
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 17:34
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guess who complains???/
Indeed, it's usually those living far from an airport and/or those who moved near an airport while fully aware of it's existance and the implications thereof.

You get the same nonsense from people who move next door to pubs......
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:26
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Hows the decision on the third runway doing? Or is it Boris Island that will be persued
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 11:33
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No answer until after the election and then made by people who are not politicians so the politicians can claim innocence (!).

Boris island is already off the table. There are threads in this forum specifically talkinh about this if you search.
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 12:05
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A cynic might suggest that the decision was made some time ago, it's just the announcement that has to wait until after the election.
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 12:30
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A different cynic might say that the recommendation by Davies and the decision might not be the same thing. Who can say who will be in power on May 8?
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 21:02
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Here's a new video showing Airlines, Airports and Routes featuring Heathrow.

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