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Old 27th Jan 2014, 20:15
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FlyingEagle21; eventually, but no time frame.
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Old 27th Jan 2014, 22:17
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With T2 opening in June, I'm assuming the Europa pier stretching over taxiway Kilo from T1 will be knocked down and the eventual toast rack will become as designed with a straight through Kilo taxiway.

Anyone have a time frame for knocking this down? I'm assuming it is still there?
Think it will be as part of the T2 handover, or very soon after...with that pier still in place, some of the T2B stands (234, 235?) will be inaccessible. Also, the 'blocking' of Kilo will make operations more complicated.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 00:45
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I've heard there is no official time frame as to when the remainder of the Europier will be demolished.

Indeed the gates 39 and 41 which are still in use there have been re-branded as B28 and B29 which makes them numerical order with the new B gates on T2B, so that, to me anyway, suggests they aren't going anywhere for a while yet.

Terminal 1 will still remain open for some time after T2 becomes operational. The airlines which aren't moving over (FI, CY, JJ, LY and BA) will still be using it. I know the non Star carriers (apart from BA) will be relocated to T4, but I'm not sure when that will be happening. The space made from merging all of UA to T2 will presumably free up some space for the smallerops of FI, CY, JJ services. I've not heard anything about whats happening to LY or the current T1 BA services.

Will T2 remain solely for Star Alliance carriers (plus VSLR and EI) once it's fully completed or is that just to start with? It seems like it will be awfully big and if the plan is to eventually knock down T3 as well then that will leave a lot of airlines needing somewhere to go.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 14:43
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Did all BMI departures for BHD not leave from the gate 8 area?
I can't say 'all' but certainly some did. I certainly boarded a flight there from gate 8 a number of years ago.
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 15:45
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Direct flights to Bogota ?

Avianca volverá a volar directamente desde Bogotá a Londres , Economía - Edición Impresa Semana.com

Coming later in the year ?
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 16:42
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Direct flights to Bogota ?

Twitter post here

https://twitter.com/TrafficAirColom/...90458436198400

suggesting that seats go on sale tomorrow for the service starting 1st July.
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 19:37
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wonder if this will kickstart a previous BA service rumour ?
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 21:47
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wonder if this will kickstart a previous BA service rumour ?
Looks like you just have.
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Old 3rd Feb 2014, 17:55
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T1 is a real mess
You said it, Dannyboy. Every major airport has its good bits and bad bits, but much of Heathrow is an embarrassment. Fortunately, the low cost revolution has meant that travelling from regional airports has become easier.
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 06:50
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Direct flights to Bogota ?

Now reportedly starting on Friday 4th July with a 4-per-week A332 arriving/departing on TuFrSaSu.

No sign of it yet on the Avianca website, which is still showing LHR-BOG for July as connecting over JFK/IAD/MIA.
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 12:36
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Amadeus shows:
Mon/Thur/Sat AV120 BOGLHR 2159-1440+1
Fri AV120 BOGLHR 2324-1605+1

Tue/Fri/Sat/Sun AV121 LHRBOG 2235-0309+1
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 13:30
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The 2159 and 2324 departure and 0309 arrival times at Bogota seem to have been deliberately chosen. Anyone able to elaborate as to what night restrictions or other rationale there may be ?

While a 3 am arrival initially sounds a bit grim, I'm guessing that after considering the time zone difference, these are actually very suitable timings for those who want to avoid wasting a day in the air - it's a shame that there are so few red eye westbounds apart from MAD-MEX or to GRU and the southern cone. Personally, I think these are fantastic flight times. No, I'm not being sarcastic.

Does Bogota airport have some sort of *civilised* arrivals lounge or pay-by-the-hour-hotel to allow people to snooze a little and wait for it to get light before heading into the city or onto connecting flights ?
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 10:14
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BA are moving DUB flights to T5 in October, not sure if BHD are moving.
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 10:57
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BA's BHD-LHR flight's are moving to T5 as well.

City Airport BA flights to land at Terminal 5 - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
 
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BA are moving DUB flights to T5 in October, not sure if BHD are moving.

BA's BHD-LHR flight's are moving to T5 as well.
Makes sense, to have all of BA's domestic and common travel area flights at LHR-5, both for transfer pax and for BA (no need for the expense of a small operation in a third terminal).

The date sounds significant: demolition time for LHR-1, or at least that part of it? Guess that EI and VS will go to the new LHR-2?
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 16:02
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The date sounds significant: demolition time for LHR-1, or at least that part of it?
Heathrow's website currently suggests that Little Red and Germanwings will be the last to vacate T1 for T2 in "November 2014 or later", although SAS's move is shown as "to be confirmed" so it could conceivably be they who turn the lights out.

Heathrow: Airline moves | Heathrow terminal changes
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 17:31
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although SAS's move is shown as "to be confirmed" so it could conceivably be they who turn the lights out.
SAS are in T3 and have been for some years by choice !
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 17:41
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SAS are in T3 and have been for some years by choice !
Good point, maybe somebody should tell Heathrow that.
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 17:46
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SAS don't fly from Terminal 1, the LHJR website is wrong. They are in T3 at the moment!


Even after all of the T2 carriers move out, there will still be UN, CY, FI, JJ, US and LY in T1 as well as whatever BA haven't shift over to T5 yet (AMM, CAI, BEY, BAK, MRS, HAJ, RTM etc).

T1 will still be around for a while, but what I can see maybe happening is the old Irish pier either being demolished first, or perhaps changing that to allow international arrivals/departures (shouldn't be too hard) and knocking down the parts of T1 which currently restrict T2/T2B from being able to operate as planned. However, if they were going to do that then why bother renumber some gates in T1 for such a short time?
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Old 7th Feb 2014, 19:11
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old Irish pier
...will be going.

The issue to be factored in is the A380. Taxiways A and B to the north of T3 and T1 are too close to each other, and B is too close to the terminals to have the required Code F clearances.

That needs to be sorted, and to do that you have to move B to the south. To do that you have to knock things down.
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