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EIDW: Some chap, a nutjob - we can agree - strolls into the unsecured side of the terminal claiming to hold an explosive. The airport is evacuated. Aircraft are told to wait, with the doors shut. Airport unusable for a couple of hours. A fair bit of economic damage, plenty of terrified punters, and next we'll have the war-cries for increased security. You call this a civilised society? I call it something else.
If one nutjob can achieve all this on his own, no amount of security will fix the problem. This is a problem which, if treated in the way it was today, will culminate in a seriously terrified and enslaved public.
If one nutjob can achieve all this on his own, no amount of security will fix the problem. This is a problem which, if treated in the way it was today, will culminate in a seriously terrified and enslaved public.
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So Selfin, oh font of all knowledge, pray tell how you would have reacted today, had say, your family been in the terminal. You would have ignored him, because he's a nutter, and he'll go away?
What Rubbish!!!
What Rubbish!!!
1 Evacuate area
2 Ask nutter if he really has bomb
3 If yes, shoot nutter
3 If no bang - clean up mess & reopen area. Shooting justified & nuisance to public minimised
4 If bang - shooting & evacuation justified. Start clean up.
We should start to play without rules, just like they do.
2 Ask nutter if he really has bomb
3 If yes, shoot nutter
3 If no bang - clean up mess & reopen area. Shooting justified & nuisance to public minimised
4 If bang - shooting & evacuation justified. Start clean up.
We should start to play without rules, just like they do.
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Well Selfin, simple question...would you not have evacuated the terminal or done nothing at all had you been in charge...what if you happened to be standing beside this chap as he walked into the terminal? Would you have at least moved a safe distance away from him JUST IN CASE he was serious? I think you would have.
But I also think you are just enjoying a good wind up on here today so I suggest we all ignore him!
But I also think you are just enjoying a good wind up on here today so I suggest we all ignore him!
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Letter to Irish Independent, 4th July, 2006
Before the day is out it is only right that a certain letter on Dublin Airport to the the Editor of today's Irish Independent should be acknowledged. The letter made a great case for improvements in airport infrastructure at Dublin Airport and how the airport has probably the shortest runway of any capital city so preventing the maximum use of both cargo and passenger aircraft to points in Asia - this despite a huge Irish government presence in Japan and China in recent days promoting Irish commercial interests in the area.
Maybe it is mixing of metaphors but there is no denying the crowd whom are charged with running the State airports at both Dublin and Cork are completely all at sea due no doubt due to the decades and decades of Government impotence in the face of opposition from the lobbies supporting the stopover position at Shannon.
How our nation has suffered for decades at the hands of such incompetence. Dublin and especially Cork goes on to pay every single day becuase of the long political patronage of Shannon because if you think for a second that Cork's new terminal solves everything you are mistaken.
Maybe it is mixing of metaphors but there is no denying the crowd whom are charged with running the State airports at both Dublin and Cork are completely all at sea due no doubt due to the decades and decades of Government impotence in the face of opposition from the lobbies supporting the stopover position at Shannon.
How our nation has suffered for decades at the hands of such incompetence. Dublin and especially Cork goes on to pay every single day becuase of the long political patronage of Shannon because if you think for a second that Cork's new terminal solves everything you are mistaken.
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Couldn't agree with you more Tom. However it must be said that those that should have known better in Aerlingus and Aer Rianta decided to remain silent about the massive damage that the Shannon Stopover was doing to Irish Aviation.
Dublin is now on its way to being Ireland's true transatlantic airport and SNN may just about hang on to JFK and BOS. Cork should also get a 757 service to these cities if management there play their cards right.
Dublin is now on its way to being Ireland's true transatlantic airport and SNN may just about hang on to JFK and BOS. Cork should also get a 757 service to these cities if management there play their cards right.
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Here ya go:
A 48-year-old man has appeared in court charged in connection with yesterday's bomb scare at Dublin Airport.
John McHugh, who has an address at Mountjoy Square in Dublin, has been remanded in custody with consent to bail.
Mr McHugh has been ordered to sign on daily at Fitzgibbon Street Garda Station and to stay away from Dublin and Shannon Airports.
Gardaí told the court the man's actions led to Dublin Airport being shut down for two hours yesterday.
Flight schedules at the airport are returning to normal today after the chaos caused by the hoax bomb alert.
The airport reopened at around 4pm yesterday afternoon, but passengers faced huge delays and a heavy backlog of traffic on the roads surrounding the airport for the rest of the evening.
Most flights did eventually take off after a long delay but Ryanair cancelled nearly 20 of its departures to and from Britain and Cork.
A 48-year-old man has appeared in court charged in connection with yesterday's bomb scare at Dublin Airport.
John McHugh, who has an address at Mountjoy Square in Dublin, has been remanded in custody with consent to bail.
Mr McHugh has been ordered to sign on daily at Fitzgibbon Street Garda Station and to stay away from Dublin and Shannon Airports.
Gardaí told the court the man's actions led to Dublin Airport being shut down for two hours yesterday.
Flight schedules at the airport are returning to normal today after the chaos caused by the hoax bomb alert.
The airport reopened at around 4pm yesterday afternoon, but passengers faced huge delays and a heavy backlog of traffic on the roads surrounding the airport for the rest of the evening.
Most flights did eventually take off after a long delay but Ryanair cancelled nearly 20 of its departures to and from Britain and Cork.
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Ryan2000, Ei did not remain silent on the shannon stop, in fact I can remember at least one campaign "WHY CANT I FLY DIRECT TO DUBLIN" or something like that. In addition EI went ahead and leased 2x767 to start a direct LAX svc to force the governments hand - all to no avail.
EI-RB, while a direct service to the US from Cork might look like a no brainer, it appears tha the demand is not there. North American Airlines (in assoc with a Cork Travel Agent) planned a 3 times a week svc last year with, as you proposed a B757, and guess what it was cancelled before it even started due to lack of interest!!!
EI-RB, while a direct service to the US from Cork might look like a no brainer, it appears tha the demand is not there. North American Airlines (in assoc with a Cork Travel Agent) planned a 3 times a week svc last year with, as you proposed a B757, and guess what it was cancelled before it even started due to lack of interest!!!
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Well, if we all have to live with the cursed legacy of the stopover let us turn it all on it's head - why not send one of the snn based EI A330s to Cork twice a week and let her go west from snn if that is the only way around it. If you cant beat 'em with the stopover join 'em!
Diluting of yield, short runway, low cloud, CAT3 too problematic - every conceivable excuse be it credible or no is used to hold back Cork. Shannon has never had some many scheduled flights across the Atlantic as it has this year so there is absolutely no doubt a credible carrier could pull off a flight to America from Cork out of all this combined market from snn which would still leaving snn having a huge lion's share of the total.
As for the last year's fiasco with the Slatterys and Ryan International charters to New York. Cork passengers were betrayed. Up to Christmas the bookings were believed to have been fine and then this 5h!Te about a fuel surcharege was introduced to kill it off. How opportune indeed and it does not take too many guesses where all the benefit later went after following the cancellations.
Cork passengers were clearly betrayed in this matter. How many pax did EI lose from snn and DUB to America when they introduced a fuel surcharge for the first time this summer?
Diluting of yield, short runway, low cloud, CAT3 too problematic - every conceivable excuse be it credible or no is used to hold back Cork. Shannon has never had some many scheduled flights across the Atlantic as it has this year so there is absolutely no doubt a credible carrier could pull off a flight to America from Cork out of all this combined market from snn which would still leaving snn having a huge lion's share of the total.
As for the last year's fiasco with the Slatterys and Ryan International charters to New York. Cork passengers were betrayed. Up to Christmas the bookings were believed to have been fine and then this 5h!Te about a fuel surcharege was introduced to kill it off. How opportune indeed and it does not take too many guesses where all the benefit later went after following the cancellations.
Cork passengers were clearly betrayed in this matter. How many pax did EI lose from snn and DUB to America when they introduced a fuel surcharge for the first time this summer?
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Tom, I`m sorry to have to scupper your great lans for De Capital, but EI has banned its 330s from Cork. The reaon being, Corks Runway is narrower(even including the turning circle) than allowed by Airbus for turns which could cause cracks in the main gear. True its not going to happen onthe first day of operation, but over time it requires additional inspections and maintenance action. The best action would be to get an oul bulldozer and start building that parallel taxiway as so proudly illustrated in the model up in departures!
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Dublin Airport: Going for Disruption Record?
A bomb scare: Bad luck
A bomb scare and union action: Bad luck and pretty annoying
A bomb scare, union action and another bomb scare this morning:
annoying, wasteful, commercially damaging and bordering on absurd.
Are people who cause this level of disruption (hoaxers, not the unions) not able to contemplate the level of frustration and serious stress they cause to the travelling public and indeed airport employees?
sr
A bomb scare and union action: Bad luck and pretty annoying
A bomb scare, union action and another bomb scare this morning:
annoying, wasteful, commercially damaging and bordering on absurd.Are people who cause this level of disruption (hoaxers, not the unions) not able to contemplate the level of frustration and serious stress they cause to the travelling public and indeed airport employees?
sr
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Originally Posted by shamrock6065
They arnt related, the last one was some nut from the inner city, this one was a bag with a copy of the Koran and medicines in it.