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Old 18th Oct 2006, 20:32
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Maybe you should have a look at the movement figures on the CAA website as oposed to passengers (as the average aircraft into city carries less).

Not bad for a bit of tarmac with a handful of stands. Ahead of Bristol, Cardiff, Liverpool and fast approaching Glasgow.

Also keep in mind that it is only open for about 14 useful hours a day.
Those air traffic controllers really earn their money


(that last statement doesn't include you Alan )
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Old 18th Oct 2006, 22:01
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I think we are all here pretty much aware of the movement rate at LCY at peak periods. But coupled with the market desire for 0830 arrivals and 1800 departures on all routes, and the seeming saturation of the runway at those times with little scope for additional movements (well done Alan & Co) it is difficult to see how the growth rate can be sustained before the parallel taxiway is completed, and some additional stands as well. Hope the new owners have got some investment plans for this lined up.
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 06:33
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As City manages up to 330 odd movements over a 13-14 hour useful period that is still an average of around 25 an hour.

As all departures have to turn the same way (due mainly to buildings and noise) building a parallel taxiway would not increase things much.

The peak hour is 34, so if you bumped up all the off peak hours, that would only increase movements by another hundred or so, problem is that airlines do not want to fly off peak.

Well done Alan and co, keep it up

ps. any chance on +2 on a SR71 going south followed by a F50 going north
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 07:40
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Originally Posted by virginblue
SAS is a Star Alliance member and has recently started ARN and CPH, Air One is a Star Alliance partner and will soon start LIN, FCO, GOA, TRN, Swiss is continuing to grow at LCY, Lufthansa is doubling its flights.
Almost 40 daily Star Alliance flights to/from LCY soon. Now only Austrian needs to come on board and *Alliance is nicely positioned at LCY.
That's true. Any news on Austrian I wonder? And what about the other Alliances. I guess KLM/Air France is Skyteam and just BA for One World?
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BA Connect have dumped London City to Milan Malpensa. Is anyone surprised?
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 18:09
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As far as I am aware BA Connect have not cancelled that route. Where did you get that information from?
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Old 19th Oct 2006, 18:12
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News to me as well. Whats your source?
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Old 20th Oct 2006, 10:40
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Retraction!
Sorry I was horribly misinformed and I would like to apologise to all concerned for duff information. My informant now sleeps with the fishes!!!!
Again sorry.
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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 07:24
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It's not just the runway utilisation, we are now having to put departures 3 mins apart because of LTMA saturation.

They need to redesign the whole of the airspace to make the airport reach it's full potential. And that is years away.

(Anonny.... you are the best - after that BelgyBird)

P.S> Can we have an ILS glidepath that works in the heavy rain please..... and some control over the shipping that blocked the approach yesterday (again) and resulted in holding at SPEAR and go-arounds.
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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 07:31
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Originally Posted by AlanM
please..... and some control over the shipping that blocked the approach yesterday (again) and resulted in holding at SPEAR and go-arounds.
What shipping is that ? If it is movement into the Royal Docks past the 28 threshhold it is a once-in-a-blue-moon operation anyway, but what control does the airport have over this ? Is there advance notice ?
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Old 23rd Oct 2006, 16:57
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Hi Im new on here! This is my first post!
I live approx 4nm from EGLC (to the south east) and take interest in the traffic. espically when using 10 as i am on the downwind right hand leg! I also listen to 132.7/128.02 probably to often! . As A pilot I have a pitiful 70 hours in a cessna butdue to cost no licence yet

I just thought Id say hello, and a question - is it likely for the airport to extend its operational hours in the future , i.e. earlier arrivals and departures than 7am and later 2030 ???

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Old 25th Oct 2006, 12:31
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less sleep for you!

With the new winter schedules coming in i think you can expect a few more arrivals after 2030 and a few more departures before 7. However, not many of them will sound like an E135 with full reverse thrust!
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Old 25th Oct 2006, 15:45
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There is little commercial demand for early departures or late arrivals so no real pressure on the planning restriction the airport has on operating hours (currently 0630 - 2200). After 2100 at present there is little or no traffic.

There has been a notable increase in the number of business jet operations right after 0630 over the last year or so but that is about it.

Schedules with aircraft based at LCY (so early departure/late return) have had a poor reception over the years, many have been tried but apart from one Scot flight to Edinburgh (which I use from time to time and which seems to get low loads) nothing nightstops at present.
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Old 25th Oct 2006, 15:47
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Isn't there a 640ish departure by Cityjet to ORY ?
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Old 25th Oct 2006, 21:51
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Swiss increasing Geneva from 4 to 6 daily. More good news for LCY.
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Old 26th Oct 2006, 06:53
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There is an early departure to Paris, which I have used a few times. Again low loads but with the AF prices they still may be making money! There used to be a Zurich night stop as well which was quite handy. Would be good if they brought that back.
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Old 26th Oct 2006, 07:17
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But you do get the odd late arrival, I remember a late running Dash -8 Euromanx 89L from IOM suprised me when I saw it establishing on 28 the other night at about 2130! I had to switch on my scanner to see who it was
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Old 28th Oct 2006, 20:52
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Originally Posted by juninho12
Swiss increasing Geneva from 4 to 6 daily. More good news for LCY.
Well, LCY-BSL is cut back from thrice to twice daily, so it is a net gain of one daily flight by Swiss:

BSL-LCY 6:45 7:25 12345 LX484
LCY-BSL 7:55 10:30 12345 LX485
BSL-LCY 19:25 20:05 12345 LX486
LCY-BSL 20:35 23:10 12345 LX487

BSL-LCY 6:35 7:15 6 LX484
LCY-BSL 7:45 10:20 6 LX485

BSL-LCY 19:40 20:20 7 LX486
LCY-BSL 20:50 23:25 7 LX487
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 08:50
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Was that an A318 in again yesterday, Saturday 28 Oct, that I just saw fleetingly from a distance ? Different airframe to last time, possibly this one :

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1129765/M/
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 10:01
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The very same aicraft.

Did a few planned (and unplanned!) Touch and Go's for 28. Then left at 1255L ish.
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