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To return to the issue of the parking stands. Take a recent example: ThonsonFly parked on 26N (which blocks out 26), TCX on stand 24 for 48 hours with the Air Malta on 25 for 48 hours, Excel on 12 for 48 hours and a night-stopping DP on stand 5 until 1735 the next day. Two Easyjet night-stoppers on 8 and 11 which don't depart until 1430 and 1735 respectively. TCX bring an extra A320 in to exchange with the original one. SO, that's 7 large stands taken out of the picture. So the whole days' operation has to be squashed into 13 stands, and don't forget this leaves only 21, 10 and 4L (if 4 isn't being used) to use as self-manouevring stands for the a/c for which there aren't any towbars. See what I mean, W and Rampboy????
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Tonight is a good example people, with to issue of stands. with the BY on 24L, KM on 25L TCX parked on 26N EZY 737 on 23W, KLM F70 on 22. EZY 737 st1, A319s on St2 & 3. EZY 737 on St4. FCA prob go on 5. 8,9,11 EZY 737s. KLM 100 on 10 and JN on 12 with 3 BAs and SN on 13 to 16. Talk about busy nite with nite stoppers. 
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I would think that the answer to Andrew Skipps mind boggle over Florida is quite obvious, and weve all mentioned it before it's our old friend runway length rearing it's ugly head again, take FCA, they now have more lightweight 767s due to less seating and the complete revamp of everything inside, perfect you would think, and weve been told would make Florida direct, However Mr FCA Head Honcho wants to make as much cash as poss out of his 767s and therefore likes to fill the bellies up with cargo etc... Which then means the a/c is to heavy to get off the meager strip of runway that wee call 27/09 and fly direct to SFB.
Take the FCA operation at BHX, a few years ago the pulled the 767 that was doing Florida and moved its Midlands long haul operation to EMA, why you may ask, well apparently due to EMA haveing the longer runway they can put more cargo on the a/c, which seems kind of strange to me seeming people like PIA operate 747s in and out of BHX with no major issues as far as i'm aware, therefore in theory were probly more likely to see a SFB route out of EXT before BRS, roll on the 787 thats all I can say!
Take the FCA operation at BHX, a few years ago the pulled the 767 that was doing Florida and moved its Midlands long haul operation to EMA, why you may ask, well apparently due to EMA haveing the longer runway they can put more cargo on the a/c, which seems kind of strange to me seeming people like PIA operate 747s in and out of BHX with no major issues as far as i'm aware, therefore in theory were probly more likely to see a SFB route out of EXT before BRS, roll on the 787 thats all I can say!
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I managed to get hold of a copy of the full draft master plan (160 pages with appendices – much easier to read than trying to download the full version from the Net).
A runway extension is not being considered until 9 million annual pax have been reached – forecast around 2015. Even after that they are lukewarm. They give various options for extending it, with the resultant positives and negatives, but conclude that (even after 9 million pax), “The improvement in performance that might be achieved by extending the runway is relatively small in comparison with the costs and the potential environmental impact.”
The draft master plan suggests there is (and will be during the period the plan covers, up to 2015 in detail and to 2030 in outline) limited demand for regular scheduled long haul from the Bristol catchment, and identifies New York (already served), Washington, Dubai and one other US destination “such as Atlanta” as the required destinations.
There is also further demand for long haul services by charter airlines, and various projected passenger figures are given regarding long haul from the airport in general.
The airport seems to be relying on new generation aircraft that will make a runway extension unnecessary. The draft plan mentions the B 787. The airport has been told by Boeing that one variant is expected to have a range of 9,000 km from the existing runway.
However, the next generation of aircraft is expected to have longer wingspans and at present the clearances between the taxiway and Winters Lane (by the golf course) could not accommodate the B 787. This could be overcome in the short term by the construction of turning circles, but consideration might have to be given at some future point to moving Winters Lane to the north. I don’t like golf so that wouldn’t worry me.
BTW, according to the list I have, the EXT runway is only 72 metres longer than BRS (2083 to 2011), although it is also at a lower elevation. How much difference does 72 metres make? BRS say they could extend the current runway by 140 metres within existing airport land and without the need for airport control of Felton Common, although the A 38 would have to be dropped into a tunnel.
This is one of the options mentioned in the draft plan. The others are extend the runway by 389 metres; extend it by 239 metres with a 150 metre starter strip; extend the runway beyond 389 metres onto the Common. I suspect the last one would cause apoplexy in some quarters.
I managed to get hold of a copy of the full draft master plan (160 pages with appendices – much easier to read than trying to download the full version from the Net).
A runway extension is not being considered until 9 million annual pax have been reached – forecast around 2015. Even after that they are lukewarm. They give various options for extending it, with the resultant positives and negatives, but conclude that (even after 9 million pax), “The improvement in performance that might be achieved by extending the runway is relatively small in comparison with the costs and the potential environmental impact.”
The draft master plan suggests there is (and will be during the period the plan covers, up to 2015 in detail and to 2030 in outline) limited demand for regular scheduled long haul from the Bristol catchment, and identifies New York (already served), Washington, Dubai and one other US destination “such as Atlanta” as the required destinations.
There is also further demand for long haul services by charter airlines, and various projected passenger figures are given regarding long haul from the airport in general.
The airport seems to be relying on new generation aircraft that will make a runway extension unnecessary. The draft plan mentions the B 787. The airport has been told by Boeing that one variant is expected to have a range of 9,000 km from the existing runway.
However, the next generation of aircraft is expected to have longer wingspans and at present the clearances between the taxiway and Winters Lane (by the golf course) could not accommodate the B 787. This could be overcome in the short term by the construction of turning circles, but consideration might have to be given at some future point to moving Winters Lane to the north. I don’t like golf so that wouldn’t worry me.
BTW, according to the list I have, the EXT runway is only 72 metres longer than BRS (2083 to 2011), although it is also at a lower elevation. How much difference does 72 metres make? BRS say they could extend the current runway by 140 metres within existing airport land and without the need for airport control of Felton Common, although the A 38 would have to be dropped into a tunnel.
This is one of the options mentioned in the draft plan. The others are extend the runway by 389 metres; extend it by 239 metres with a 150 metre starter strip; extend the runway beyond 389 metres onto the Common. I suspect the last one would cause apoplexy in some quarters.
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New Route starting of the 28th of the month opeartaing three days a wk, monday, wednesday and fridays i think day n night stopping over the weekend. Operated by OLT with a saab 2000 flying BRE-HAM-BRS on behalf of airbus between the 3 compaines across europe. Correct the details where wrong i will update when i have more info.
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No Ramp boy you are right
Monday one departures 0755 SF3 BRS-HAM/BRE
Tuesday-Thursday Two daily departures
0630 BRS-HAM/BRE S20
1700 BRS-HAM/BRE SF3
Friday Two departures
0630 BRS-HAM/BRE S20
1715 BRS-HAM/BRE SF3
Full business class service onboard.
Monday one departures 0755 SF3 BRS-HAM/BRE
Tuesday-Thursday Two daily departures
0630 BRS-HAM/BRE S20
1700 BRS-HAM/BRE SF3
Friday Two departures
0630 BRS-HAM/BRE S20
1715 BRS-HAM/BRE SF3
Full business class service onboard.
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Is this service open to the public or just for Airbus people?
If the former it will complement/ rival easyJet who are starting a 6 rotations a week HAM service next month.
Didn't OLT operate out of Filton for Airbus? Perhaps they still will?
If the former it will complement/ rival easyJet who are starting a 6 rotations a week HAM service next month.
Didn't OLT operate out of Filton for Airbus? Perhaps they still will?
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Major expansion announced today by Air Southwest to take effect from next April.
It will include a based aircraft and crew at BRS, new route BRS-NWI and increased frequency BRS-LBA to 3 a day.
It will include a based aircraft and crew at BRS, new route BRS-NWI and increased frequency BRS-LBA to 3 a day.
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Good to see ASW basing an a/c at BRS - doing a good job of filling the "thin" routes ex BRS. The new Norwich route must be a winner given the hideous road/rail journey from the SW to East Anglia.
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Just had to do some fishing around, but my FCA hunch looks correct, B757 based next winter 06/07 instead of A321 - Hooray!
New routes according to brochures and FC website for FCA will be SSH/BJL and new one for the airport AGA also looks like a busier programme too, lets hope they keep them for the following summer too, good news for BRS and FCA if you ask me and long over due after the tech probs with the 321s this summer.
Nice one FCA!
New routes according to brochures and FC website for FCA will be SSH/BJL and new one for the airport AGA also looks like a busier programme too, lets hope they keep them for the following summer too, good news for BRS and FCA if you ask me and long over due after the tech probs with the 321s this summer.
Nice one FCA!
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AGA it thought FCA operated that last winter with a 757 on a day tripper from LGW-BRS-AGA-BRS-LGW etc, as i can remember turning around this aircraft. SSH & BJL are both very popular at BRS with BY, XLA, AEA operating to these destinations this winter too. Its good to see the that EZY are quick to swap aircraft here, as we have 3 airbus's here & 5 boeing now. But most of the EZY crews are from Berlin on temp at mom til the EZY 737 based pilots here are trained on the A319. Nice to hear a fresh noice over the headset!
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That FCA flight to Agadir positioning in from KK first I think was a one off. I thought initially it was the first flight on that route for the season but I was mistaken...
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Air Europa operating to BJL and SSH? Sorry but have i missed something?
Last time i looked it was Astreus to BJL and Air Malta and BY to SSH?
I think AGA will be a good route for South west judgeing on the way locals have embrased the new Egypt routes and how popular BJL is, but how much nicer will it be to have a 757 instead of the ropey 321. Lovely Jubbley.
The AGA was a one off day trip last year, but is weekly flight as of nxt winter.
Last time i looked it was Astreus to BJL and Air Malta and BY to SSH?
I think AGA will be a good route for South west judgeing on the way locals have embrased the new Egypt routes and how popular BJL is, but how much nicer will it be to have a 757 instead of the ropey 321. Lovely Jubbley.
The AGA was a one off day trip last year, but is weekly flight as of nxt winter.
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Think it was due to WX, it was rather pea soupy, think a few others had probs inc KLM, not sure which runway was in use, if its 09 then not much would of stood a chance, but hey thats the first divert for CO since flights commenced back in the beginning of summer, not bad going, and at least it didnt go to CWL!
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Watabench you big fool - wake up and smell the buscuits!!
If CO had diverted to CWL they would have pulled out of BRS - permanent. What the hell would they want to go back there for after having the 'welsh touch'!!
If CO had diverted to CWL they would have pulled out of BRS - permanent. What the hell would they want to go back there for after having the 'welsh touch'!!