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Does anybody know what the loads are like on the evening flights to dubai with emirates. Hoping to go on the 26th April with them on standby, and i am worried i wont get on. I have heard the loads are quite high. Any info would be great.
Also who would i phone to ask about the loads?
Also who would i phone to ask about the loads?
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I know it's only the first day, but I was wondering if anyone had any idea how well T3 coped with bmibaby's presence today? Will baby be using the airbridges or will they just waste perfectly good stands in the same fashion as the BA Embraers have been doing for god knows how long!
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Emirates Loads
Bozzy, this isn't directly answering your question, but the CAA provisional traffic statistics for February show that 33233 passengers were carried on Emirates from Manchester in February. That's 1186 passengers per day, which averages to 297 per flight.
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Baby T3
Baby are in T3 but are blocking the airbridges, not using them.
They use front and rear steps which further clutters an already cluttered apron.
I would not be so cynical as to suggest that Baby are in T3 simply to boost the throughput of the shops
They use front and rear steps which further clutters an already cluttered apron.
I would not be so cynical as to suggest that Baby are in T3 simply to boost the throughput of the shops
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I really don't understand this. Does utilising an airbridge cost a great deal extra for an airline and does it significantly increase turnaround times? When they were in T1 they often used stands 6 and 8 on B Pier in the afternoons and on some occasions they utilised the airbridges and on others they didn't. And of course they used the airbridge on stand 21 on many a morning. And now initial says that on Sunday they had 3 aircraft on airbridges and bar none says that today they weren't using them. I just don't get the policy here. Why use an airbridge on some days and not others? And if an aircraft is going to be allocated an airbridge stand, what's the point of not using the airbridge? It may as well use a different stand or go remote. Obviously with baby being low cost, they might not want to pay out the additional charges for using an airbridge but then on some days they do use one, so it doesn't make sense.
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may not be the problem of how much it costs, there ground handlers are training some new people on the ramp at the momet so may be they don't have quailfied people to opperate the gates at the present time.
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Originally Posted by bar none
I would not be so cynical as to suggest that Baby are in T3 simply to boost the throughput of the shops
The reason they moved is because:
a) BA persuaded MAPLC to extend T3 with a promise that they'd increase their routes/freqs/capacity and increase their passengers. As we all know, BA is gradually going t1ts up and thus there is spare space in T3.
b) T1 is busting at the seams, especially with Jet2 growing so quickly. There isn't space for them all.
c) bmi and baby have been subsidised by MAPLC (yes, £000s of real cash has been handed over, for years) to cover their costs of running a split operation between T1 and T3 previously. This will reduce costs.
d) baby want to be near the runway for faster turnarounds.
Airlines don't pay MAPLC to use the airbridges, but they do pay the handling agents. It's a specialised task and there aren't the trained staff to do it. If baby can use a/c with inbuilt steps then no bridge or towed steps are required. More cost and time saved.
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Today's Etihad arrival from Abu Dhabi carried a MASSIVE 34 passengers! I wonder how much loss they have factored in for the first six months or so?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
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I was told by an airline guy that it can take upto 2 years to grow a route from start and as it was launched at a very late stage wait a while before you comment on pax loads.
1 pax going on holiday would have been booked a long while ago and because allocations are taken a long way in advance
will not work their way through yet
2 business pax usually let the service bed in first
I hope it does well and I have no reason to think it won`t
as now there this all the Malasian pax to work at for the future
G-I-B
1 pax going on holiday would have been booked a long while ago and because allocations are taken a long way in advance
will not work their way through yet
2 business pax usually let the service bed in first
I hope it does well and I have no reason to think it won`t
as now there this all the Malasian pax to work at for the future
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Originally Posted by Vuelo
Today's Etihad arrival from Abu Dhabi carried a MASSIVE 34 passengers! I wonder how much loss they have factored in for the first six months or so?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
G-I-B, Please to see that you have your head screwed on properly.
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Thanks Scottie Dog
I used to work in business travel and and used to deal with many of the reps over the years.
What they need is a number of deals to fill the back up with
guaranteed business so they can focus on the front and full fare pax
G-I-B
I used to work in business travel and and used to deal with many of the reps over the years.
What they need is a number of deals to fill the back up with
guaranteed business so they can focus on the front and full fare pax
G-I-B
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Originally Posted by Vuelo
Today's Etihad arrival from Abu Dhabi carried a MASSIVE 34 passengers! I wonder how much loss they have factored in for the first six months or so?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
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Etihad flights at the weekend are full on the outbound not bad or the first weekend of flying
and at the moment emirates are the but off a few jokes at the mo.. as you know (or don't) they have moved to T2 stand 202 there 773 fits with inches to spare and i mean inches. the daft thing is they want a set of steps on door L1 so the first class passengers can get on without mixing with the other passengers. so they walk down 6 flight's of stairs walk outside in all weathers up the open steps and onto the plane whilst joe bloggs in his shorts walks down the airbridge nice and dry and onto the plane.. been trying to work it out for a few days awnsers on a post card please
rampman
and at the moment emirates are the but off a few jokes at the mo.. as you know (or don't) they have moved to T2 stand 202 there 773 fits with inches to spare and i mean inches. the daft thing is they want a set of steps on door L1 so the first class passengers can get on without mixing with the other passengers. so they walk down 6 flight's of stairs walk outside in all weathers up the open steps and onto the plane whilst joe bloggs in his shorts walks down the airbridge nice and dry and onto the plane.. been trying to work it out for a few days awnsers on a post card please
rampman
Well Rampman, the steps on D1L are not for the front end pax. They are there to allow the ground staff to get on the aircraft as quickly as possible. The engineers couldn't get near the flight deck for 40 minutes today and then only had a few minutes to fix a major defect. Result, further delay! 
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Originally Posted by Vuelo
Today's Etihad arrival from Abu Dhabi carried a MASSIVE 34 passengers! I wonder how much loss they have factored in for the first six months or so?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
Who hinks they are too ambiious going daily from inauguration?
2 rotations and you are already asking if it will work. FFS
Come on Vuelo, wakey wakey, thats the finest columbian you can smell.
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TURIN.......Emirates wanted steps on L1 for there first and buisnes class passengers but now they realise that this will not work so they have bined the idear for now on the 773
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