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Ryanair produced another rabbit from the magician's hat today.
Mr Cawley has today announced a new daily flight from London Stansted to Nantes beginning 11th January, 2006.
The irony is that the new flight to Nantes leaves STN every day at 11.30 am. This happens to be very same time for the soon to be lost FR903 from Stansted to Cork.
Ladies and gentleman, the games have begun!
Mr Cawley has today announced a new daily flight from London Stansted to Nantes beginning 11th January, 2006.
The irony is that the new flight to Nantes leaves STN every day at 11.30 am. This happens to be very same time for the soon to be lost FR903 from Stansted to Cork.
Ladies and gentleman, the games have begun!
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Tom your running away with the idea of losing the 903. The idea of opening the STN-NTS route has been rumoured for awhile. And the 903 leaves STN at 1040 local not 1130 as you stated.
There are so many aircraft planned for FR this year alone that they have to start opening new routes otherwise the machines will be sitting down all the time.
There are so many aircraft planned for FR this year alone that they have to start opening new routes otherwise the machines will be sitting down all the time.
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Well, I stand corrected on the times. The emotion of the last week and the bending over to Ryanair at Cork without any new routes being put forward has at times overwhelmed me! However, the dropping of the '903 in January next remains a cynical move by Ryanair in my opinion.
Padraigh O'Ceidigh, boss of Aer Arann, was on the Brian Tubridy show on RTE Radio 1 this morning. Anyone get to hear it? Missed out myself.
Padraigh O'Ceidigh, boss of Aer Arann, was on the Brian Tubridy show on RTE Radio 1 this morning. Anyone get to hear it? Missed out myself.
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There is so much confusion over transatlantic flights from cork. I have read in a thread very early on in the year that cork was not subject to the Irl/ US bilateral agreement. That it in fact was left out along with knock and ironically dublin/ shannon were subject to this agreement. This being the case scheduled carriers could operate in and out of the US from cork.
It is a shame that Slatterys could not get this charter off the ground this time round either. Its not realistic in this environment to operate a charter service from cork to ny or boston for that matter. I would love to see it take off sooner rather than later. However it would have to be a schedule like Aer lingus or AA. An American 757 would be perfect from either boston or nyc.
Lately I have heard that JetBlue is interested in flying international. I hope it starts to do transatlantic, ideally it would be a great route for them to do cork - bos. There is 0 % competition. And contrary to belief I think there is a huge marked for transatlantic from cork.
Is there any talk of upgrading cork to Cat III? Also what happened to Aer Lingus testing of their A330 on runway 35/17?
Also any pics of the new airbridges available?
Cheers
It is a shame that Slatterys could not get this charter off the ground this time round either. Its not realistic in this environment to operate a charter service from cork to ny or boston for that matter. I would love to see it take off sooner rather than later. However it would have to be a schedule like Aer lingus or AA. An American 757 would be perfect from either boston or nyc.
Lately I have heard that JetBlue is interested in flying international. I hope it starts to do transatlantic, ideally it would be a great route for them to do cork - bos. There is 0 % competition. And contrary to belief I think there is a huge marked for transatlantic from cork.
Is there any talk of upgrading cork to Cat III? Also what happened to Aer Lingus testing of their A330 on runway 35/17?
Also any pics of the new airbridges available?
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cork CAT3,forget it,is what i say!! look at the terrain on approach to 17 its too much off a hill,the rad alt will go crazy!! can you imagine the equipment being planted on the N22 or in st.finbarrs H and F for that matter???? airlines wont pay for it either! only last year a new cat2 was fitted
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The link I had to the documents doesn't work any more.
As I remember it, charter flights from Cork and Knock are not obliged to stop in Shannon.
From a very vague memory of it... It also says that scheduled services by US airlines will be to Dublin and Shannon only. They will only be allowed to other aiports if an Irish airline starts one first.
The last part could be complete
It's been a while since I saw the document.
As I remember it, charter flights from Cork and Knock are not obliged to stop in Shannon.
From a very vague memory of it... It also says that scheduled services by US airlines will be to Dublin and Shannon only. They will only be allowed to other aiports if an Irish airline starts one first.
The last part could be complete
It's been a while since I saw the document.
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sounds right to me, that there is a difference between scheduled (must have SNN service) and charter (okay to have direct to ORK/NOC)
Can't find any text on Irish or US website though.
sounds right to me, that there is a difference between scheduled (must have SNN service) and charter (okay to have direct to ORK/NOC)
Can't find any text on Irish or US website though.
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Tom The tenor, i have followed with interest your posts about cork airport and finally i feel that i must comment.
You have a great deal of knowledge of your local airport and understandably you wish for it to suceed as i do aswell. however some of your recent comments about the Ryanair announcement of a base in ORK are proving to be quite contentious.
i think its too early to make judgements on Ryaniar out of ORK and history dictates that you would do well to wait and see.
It was over two and half years ago when ryanair commented that Liverpool was to be their base of the North West and for some time there was nothing. Now it seems highly likely that our 6th based a/c will be in LPL before xmas serving upwards of 20 destinations.
Remember MOL has an awful lot of orders placed for a/c and with ORK now being offially recognised as a base it stands a great chance of benefiting from this.
Wait and see, do you know if ryanair are on an equally good deal ex ORK as they are from SNN. ???? Either way good news for me an expat visiting "home"
patience Tom is a virtue, give Ryanair time and watch ORK explode into life like LPL has!
You have a great deal of knowledge of your local airport and understandably you wish for it to suceed as i do aswell. however some of your recent comments about the Ryanair announcement of a base in ORK are proving to be quite contentious.
i think its too early to make judgements on Ryaniar out of ORK and history dictates that you would do well to wait and see.
It was over two and half years ago when ryanair commented that Liverpool was to be their base of the North West and for some time there was nothing. Now it seems highly likely that our 6th based a/c will be in LPL before xmas serving upwards of 20 destinations.
Remember MOL has an awful lot of orders placed for a/c and with ORK now being offially recognised as a base it stands a great chance of benefiting from this.
Wait and see, do you know if ryanair are on an equally good deal ex ORK as they are from SNN. ???? Either way good news for me an expat visiting "home"
patience Tom is a virtue, give Ryanair time and watch ORK explode into life like LPL has!
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Any info on EI checking out ork to JFK using their 330's ? Last i heard they were testing out the runway. Is there any chance that 35 or 17 can be extended at least 2000ft ?
What about a 757 service with American? Any update on the bilateral agreement?
What about a 757 service with American? Any update on the bilateral agreement?
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Aer Arann are cutting back from nine flights a day to three flights a day on Cork-Dublin.
There's no flight from Dublin to Cork between 13:30 and 22:30, which seems to remove the one advantage they had over Ryanair.
There's no flight from Dublin to Cork between 13:30 and 22:30, which seems to remove the one advantage they had over Ryanair.
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huge mistake. Aer Arann have thrown away their competitive advantage over flights that haven't started yet.
(edited to note - these sectors will probably be going to the IOM (govt subsidised) if the Euromanx thread rumours are true)
(edited to note - these sectors will probably be going to the IOM (govt subsidised) if the Euromanx thread rumours are true)
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mark heg,
i dont think a runway extenstion is an option,mainly because 17 has a hill before it and runway 35 would mean buying people out of houses and land and mainly the main cork to kinsale road,the terrain behind 35 is also a hill so thats why i dont think its an option,25 or 07?? again this would be probably a better option to extend if they ever were going to do it because of the whole prevailing westerly winds etc (usually westerly winds at EICK) and again the 25 side is out of bounds with the main road and the 07 end with the same problems as we ahve on the 35 end.
anyway i dont think EI would need to fly an A330 into cork to test it,what a waste of money,i think the easier solution would be to do the basic maths.windspeeds,aircraft weight/speed,runway length etc etc
regards,
i dont think a runway extenstion is an option,mainly because 17 has a hill before it and runway 35 would mean buying people out of houses and land and mainly the main cork to kinsale road,the terrain behind 35 is also a hill so thats why i dont think its an option,25 or 07?? again this would be probably a better option to extend if they ever were going to do it because of the whole prevailing westerly winds etc (usually westerly winds at EICK) and again the 25 side is out of bounds with the main road and the 07 end with the same problems as we ahve on the 35 end.
anyway i dont think EI would need to fly an A330 into cork to test it,what a waste of money,i think the easier solution would be to do the basic maths.windspeeds,aircraft weight/speed,runway length etc etc
regards,
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ryanair v aer arann
Its been talked about here already but id like to add my tupence worth. I was very dis heartened to hear of aer aranns huge reduction in the frequency of flights on the ork/dub route. I do think that the route needs more than the x6 per day it will have from now on. particularly during the middle of the day when there seems to be little or no service at all. Now I know were all sceptical of mols intentions for cork but surley re could have held back a little with such a drastic reduction. no doubt they needed to reduce it my some amount but down to three is crazy in my opinion it in fact may leave the door open to mol to up there frequency. his low fares are going to hit cie most of all in my opinion and with a whole load of punters coming accross from cie that will in my opinion keep the numbers strong for re an fr to have a bite of the cake each. re could angle at the frequencey end of market giving a flexible fare flexible seat policy to allow business foke to come and go with out being nailed down to a particular flight and fr on the other hand could give the day tripper type people a non flexible service they do so so well else where. I guess re have big issues with utilisation of their fleet so that may be driving them. i wonder are they still getting the two new aircraft that ive read about or have they got them already??
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mark-heg, I posted pics of the new airbridges in cork here
http://www.flyinginireland.com/forum...pic.php?t=1142
http://www.flyinginireland.com/forum...pic.php?t=1142
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The August data for UK airports. Again missing Plymouth...
Belfast 3,605
Birmingham 12,130
Bristol 1,364
Cardiff 3,169
Durham TV 3,059
Edinburgh 4,052
Gatwick 16,737
Glasgow 1,386
Heathrow 45,648
Jersey 366
Leeds Bradford 812
Liverpool 9,875
Manchester 11,927
Nottingham EMA 5,653
Southampton 1,629
Stansted 42,250
Incidentally, I noticed that Aer Arann have a Cork-Belfast flight on a Sunday evening bookable from November 27th.
I hope that\'s right, because it is so badly missing in terms of people being able to travel between the two cities for weekend breaks.
Belfast 3,605
Birmingham 12,130
Bristol 1,364
Cardiff 3,169
Durham TV 3,059
Edinburgh 4,052
Gatwick 16,737
Glasgow 1,386
Heathrow 45,648
Jersey 366
Leeds Bradford 812
Liverpool 9,875
Manchester 11,927
Nottingham EMA 5,653
Southampton 1,629
Stansted 42,250
Incidentally, I noticed that Aer Arann have a Cork-Belfast flight on a Sunday evening bookable from November 27th.
I hope that\'s right, because it is so badly missing in terms of people being able to travel between the two cities for weekend breaks.
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Cheers for the pics of the airbridges, its just the 2 fully functional airbridges for now right, with the other 2 as options?
I was just wondering there is there a possibility that EI could start servicing cork to Boston or NY via shannon. Having the 330 orgininating in ork stop down refuel and all that lark in shannon then continue onto boston or ny. Then do the return leg in a similar fashion. Would this be possible at all? I know its not a perfect solution but it does allow a work around for now?
I was just wondering there is there a possibility that EI could start servicing cork to Boston or NY via shannon. Having the 330 orgininating in ork stop down refuel and all that lark in shannon then continue onto boston or ny. Then do the return leg in a similar fashion. Would this be possible at all? I know its not a perfect solution but it does allow a work around for now?