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Cork Airport suffered other major upsets today.
This morning's Pegasus flight from Bodrum diverted to Shannon as the RVR was 250 metres being below Cork's CATII minima. Shortly after the weather improved but the pax were still bused to Shannon after a long wait for coaches. From an update received this pm there was a lot of anger among the outbound Bodrum pax likely due to all other traffic landing shortly after the PGT diverting and it did indeed get very busy with many FUA, EI, FR, JKK, BACX, and even RE landing successfully without problem.
Midnight's outbound Zakyntos Eirjet did not operate until around 11.30 am today. The flight was operated by a North American 757 which has been working ex Cork since Thursday by Eirjet and with the crew needing sleep the ZAK could not operate until around 11.30 am.
The later outbound EIR Malaga flight was then subject to the knock on effect of a long delay. A decision was made to bus the pax to snn to coincide with an outbound snn-agp flight. I understand there was a furious reaction from the passengers to this news. At last it looks like some Cork passengers stuck up for themselves and were not ready to be treated as second class.
Fortunately, it proved impossible to find any coaches to undertake the job of driving to snn so in the end EIR had to hire in an Air Luxor A330-300. She positioned in empty from Lisbon and eventually left Cork for Shannon around 8 pm to collect the snn pax before then continuing on to destination at Malaga.
The crew rest issue was the sting in the tail today for Eirjet.
I am curious to know what the outcome of the EIR Cork bound pax will be later tonight!
The ramp looked chaotic today regularly with pax milling about everywhere. The pedestrian pathways near the baggage out area was cluttered all the time with bag carts and pax were having to jump out of the way in order not to get knocked down. Pax were boarding the wrong aircraft and there were so many orange dayglo jackets around you would be dazzled!
It would be so much cheaper to have a few buses for helping boarding and cheaper too than paying wages to so many orange glowing new faces?
Even when the new terminal is in use next summer passengers are still going to be all up in a heap on the Cork ramp when a few ITs are around?
This morning's Pegasus flight from Bodrum diverted to Shannon as the RVR was 250 metres being below Cork's CATII minima. Shortly after the weather improved but the pax were still bused to Shannon after a long wait for coaches. From an update received this pm there was a lot of anger among the outbound Bodrum pax likely due to all other traffic landing shortly after the PGT diverting and it did indeed get very busy with many FUA, EI, FR, JKK, BACX, and even RE landing successfully without problem.
Midnight's outbound Zakyntos Eirjet did not operate until around 11.30 am today. The flight was operated by a North American 757 which has been working ex Cork since Thursday by Eirjet and with the crew needing sleep the ZAK could not operate until around 11.30 am.
The later outbound EIR Malaga flight was then subject to the knock on effect of a long delay. A decision was made to bus the pax to snn to coincide with an outbound snn-agp flight. I understand there was a furious reaction from the passengers to this news. At last it looks like some Cork passengers stuck up for themselves and were not ready to be treated as second class.
Fortunately, it proved impossible to find any coaches to undertake the job of driving to snn so in the end EIR had to hire in an Air Luxor A330-300. She positioned in empty from Lisbon and eventually left Cork for Shannon around 8 pm to collect the snn pax before then continuing on to destination at Malaga.
The crew rest issue was the sting in the tail today for Eirjet.
I am curious to know what the outcome of the EIR Cork bound pax will be later tonight!
The ramp looked chaotic today regularly with pax milling about everywhere. The pedestrian pathways near the baggage out area was cluttered all the time with bag carts and pax were having to jump out of the way in order not to get knocked down. Pax were boarding the wrong aircraft and there were so many orange dayglo jackets around you would be dazzled!
It would be so much cheaper to have a few buses for helping boarding and cheaper too than paying wages to so many orange glowing new faces?
Even when the new terminal is in use next summer passengers are still going to be all up in a heap on the Cork ramp when a few ITs are around?
I've used Cork many times over the years and went through again last Friday (June 3). Although the building is the same as a few years ago it has obviously been "let go" and seemed a mess. The baggage belts are covered with more sticky baggage labels than I think I have ever seen before - the excuse of "new terminal next year" is surely no excuse for not cleaning them now. Likewise the buffet upstairs - just not kept tidy.
Outside the terminal in the mess of new roads the temporary signage to the Great Southern Hotel was pointing in the wrong direction which wasted 10 minutes of our time (but unfortunately for an airport hotel it's not worth the walk).
On what must have been one of the busiest evenings of the year so far one of the two security stations had broken down although the staff on the spot were trying to be making the best of the situation, speaking pleasantly and competently to everyone (contrast to Dublin). We even were in the minority who got an apology (possibly because of being in a suit) for the queue from the security pre-screener. When you compare the squitty little area allocated to security, and the far larger space alloted to selling plastic Leprechauns, you have to wonder what business airports are actually in.
Outside the terminal in the mess of new roads the temporary signage to the Great Southern Hotel was pointing in the wrong direction which wasted 10 minutes of our time (but unfortunately for an airport hotel it's not worth the walk).
On what must have been one of the busiest evenings of the year so far one of the two security stations had broken down although the staff on the spot were trying to be making the best of the situation, speaking pleasantly and competently to everyone (contrast to Dublin). We even were in the minority who got an apology (possibly because of being in a suit) for the queue from the security pre-screener. When you compare the squitty little area allocated to security, and the far larger space alloted to selling plastic Leprechauns, you have to wonder what business airports are actually in.
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Sure enough, there was a sequel to the EIR Cork bound flight from Malaga and it is now time to give the authorities at Cork a little praise. Yes, praise!
The flight was flown by an Excel Boeing 737-800 and she arrived at Cork at the early hour of 5 am. The aeroplane went tech and there were no staff around to handle her and it was left to two Cork Airport Duty Officers to unload all the bags!
Now, this action was certainly above and beyond the call for the two Duty Officers and it is hats off for helping out today. I hope both are suitably rewarded for this extraordinarily kind gesture.
There could have been little argument from the Excel flight crew if it had been left for them if no handler was around?
What does this say about Circusair at Cork? Today is a public holiday in Ireland so that would mean double pay at least and why was it so difficult to get some people to work this morning? Hmmm!
Why is there not a second handler at Cork Airport?
The flight was flown by an Excel Boeing 737-800 and she arrived at Cork at the early hour of 5 am. The aeroplane went tech and there were no staff around to handle her and it was left to two Cork Airport Duty Officers to unload all the bags!
Now, this action was certainly above and beyond the call for the two Duty Officers and it is hats off for helping out today. I hope both are suitably rewarded for this extraordinarily kind gesture.
There could have been little argument from the Excel flight crew if it had been left for them if no handler was around?
What does this say about Circusair at Cork? Today is a public holiday in Ireland so that would mean double pay at least and why was it so difficult to get some people to work this morning? Hmmm!
Why is there not a second handler at Cork Airport?
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John Smyth has no intention of returning to ORK. He realises what many don't.. that its time to move on. there's only so much any one person can do in one place. Maybe its time for someone fresh to take over anyway... any candidates within the airport? surely he didn't work by himself??!
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Man pleads guilty to possessing a firearm in ORK
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for those of you who cannot be bothered registering for Unison to see the story that MarkD entered, here is the text
Man pleads guilty to firearm possession at airport
A MAN pleaded guilty yesterday to possessing a firearm at Cork Airport as he prepared to board a flight for London.
But Gary Coyne must now wait a month to see if a Cork District Court judge will deal with the case or refer it to a higher court.
Coyne (31), of Woodville, Rochestown, Cork was charged earlier this year that, contrary to the Air Navigation and Transport Act, he was in possession of an article which could be used as a weapon.
The weapon - a vintage revolver - was detected on April 5, 2004 as Coyne had his bags passed through an X-ray security machine. He was arrested by gardai and released without charge some time later.
Cork District Court earlier heard that the DPP required, in the absence of a plea, for the matter to be dealt with in the Circuit Court. However, if a plea was entered, the DPP agreed to allow the case be dealt with in the District Court.
The judge will rule on the matter on July 11. If sentencing is handled in the District Court, the 31-year old could face a fine of up to €1,200 and, or, up to three months in prison.
Man pleads guilty to firearm possession at airport
A MAN pleaded guilty yesterday to possessing a firearm at Cork Airport as he prepared to board a flight for London.
But Gary Coyne must now wait a month to see if a Cork District Court judge will deal with the case or refer it to a higher court.
Coyne (31), of Woodville, Rochestown, Cork was charged earlier this year that, contrary to the Air Navigation and Transport Act, he was in possession of an article which could be used as a weapon.
The weapon - a vintage revolver - was detected on April 5, 2004 as Coyne had his bags passed through an X-ray security machine. He was arrested by gardai and released without charge some time later.
Cork District Court earlier heard that the DPP required, in the absence of a plea, for the matter to be dealt with in the Circuit Court. However, if a plea was entered, the DPP agreed to allow the case be dealt with in the District Court.
The judge will rule on the matter on July 11. If sentencing is handled in the District Court, the 31-year old could face a fine of up to €1,200 and, or, up to three months in prison.
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Cork nightmare
A HOLIDAY dream turned sour for 200 travellers who were stranded at an airport for 24 hours.
The 200 passengers had been scheduled to fly from Cork to Lanzarote in the Canary islands with EirJet on Thursday evening but a combination of poor weather and technical issues led to the delay.
Yesterday morning, furious passengers contacted the Irish Independent and radio stations to voice their anger at the delay and the fact that some parents had to clean their children in airport toilets.
The plane had been scheduled to depart from Cork at 4.45pm on Thursday, but ended up leaving Cork shortly before 4pm yesterday. The airline, EirJet, blamed the delay on heavy fog at Cork airport.
EirJet denied passenger claims that the delay was related to pilot rest periods or the availability of aircraft. After an initial four-hour delay, accommodation was provided for passengers at the Sunset Ridge Hotel via holiday firm Falcon.
Plans for a 3am departure eventually fell through; passengers were then informed that the plane would leave before lunchtime yesterday.
Falcon stressed that its reps tried to address passenger concerns at Cork airport, such as providing accommodation. They worked all yesterday to help secure the delayed flight.
The 200 passengers had been scheduled to fly from Cork to Lanzarote in the Canary islands with EirJet on Thursday evening but a combination of poor weather and technical issues led to the delay.
Yesterday morning, furious passengers contacted the Irish Independent and radio stations to voice their anger at the delay and the fact that some parents had to clean their children in airport toilets.
The plane had been scheduled to depart from Cork at 4.45pm on Thursday, but ended up leaving Cork shortly before 4pm yesterday. The airline, EirJet, blamed the delay on heavy fog at Cork airport.
EirJet denied passenger claims that the delay was related to pilot rest periods or the availability of aircraft. After an initial four-hour delay, accommodation was provided for passengers at the Sunset Ridge Hotel via holiday firm Falcon.
Plans for a 3am departure eventually fell through; passengers were then informed that the plane would leave before lunchtime yesterday.
Falcon stressed that its reps tried to address passenger concerns at Cork airport, such as providing accommodation. They worked all yesterday to help secure the delayed flight.
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I have not commented on the story above as I have not been able to keep in touch with the story over the last few days due to work and family committments.
However, it has once again been another disappointing weekend at Cork Airport due to weather and the lack of CATIII and diversions below CAT II minima. Also, one way or the other Eirjet have come in for heavy criticism for their operations out of Cork over the last number of weeks since May with many delays and hire ins etc and you can read the previous post to get a flavour of the story. Today, the delayed Eirjet flight from Reus diverted to Shannon around 5 am so mid morning they tried to bus Verona bound Cork passengers to snn for their flight.
That stunt failed after uproar in the departures hall at Cork Airport with many passengers refusing to board coaches to Shannon! It has been said some pax were being called bullies by a certain clown hiring company when the said pax would not meekly board for snn!
Well, it is hurrah for the bullies in this instance as Eirjet eventually agreed to bring the aircraft down from Shannon and the flight successfully operated out to her destination at Verona.
After tea the weather got bad again with lowering visibility. The first flight to divert was an Air Adriatic flight from either Dubovnik or Split, not sure where. All the London flights got in, thankfully but both Malev and Onur Air diverted to Dublin and Shannon respectively as the minima went below CATII. The EuroCypriot doing a Crete flight also diverted to Shannon as they needed a minima of 650 metres RVR. The returning Eirjet flight from Verona was also lost to Cork and she diverted to Shannon. An Aer Arann flight diverted also but to Kerry Airport at Farranfore.
A Spanish aircraft landed at Cork on a CATII approach just after midnight flying the EIR805 from Palma so at least the outbound pax should get out soon.
Cork Airport is this weekend once again lettering her passengers down. As usual the weather and low cloud will be blamed - a handy excuse indeed but it is all a load of rubbish isn't it?
Yet again, it is necessary to call for the installation of a CATIII approach at Cork Airport and without the silly excuses about cost, maintenance, the rad alt issue at the dip and the most stupid excuse of all that of a CATIII not being justified at Cork!
Can you believe this kind of utter tosh!? No where else in Ireland, Britain or Europe are passengers being dished out so much shabbiness by an airport. Perhaps some of tonight's lost flights at Cork would still have had to divert even if CATIII was installed but look at the huge numbers of flights that would be saved over the course of say, three, six, or twelve months? The saved revenue would easily help pay for maintenance etc for the installation?
It is time to save Cork Airport and to save what is left of her credibility as the most important international transport asset in the south Munster region of Ireland and if the people who are charged with managing Cork Airport are so not up to the task they should resign.
Cork Airport and her passengers deserve better - they deserve the best.
However, it has once again been another disappointing weekend at Cork Airport due to weather and the lack of CATIII and diversions below CAT II minima. Also, one way or the other Eirjet have come in for heavy criticism for their operations out of Cork over the last number of weeks since May with many delays and hire ins etc and you can read the previous post to get a flavour of the story. Today, the delayed Eirjet flight from Reus diverted to Shannon around 5 am so mid morning they tried to bus Verona bound Cork passengers to snn for their flight.
That stunt failed after uproar in the departures hall at Cork Airport with many passengers refusing to board coaches to Shannon! It has been said some pax were being called bullies by a certain clown hiring company when the said pax would not meekly board for snn!
Well, it is hurrah for the bullies in this instance as Eirjet eventually agreed to bring the aircraft down from Shannon and the flight successfully operated out to her destination at Verona.
After tea the weather got bad again with lowering visibility. The first flight to divert was an Air Adriatic flight from either Dubovnik or Split, not sure where. All the London flights got in, thankfully but both Malev and Onur Air diverted to Dublin and Shannon respectively as the minima went below CATII. The EuroCypriot doing a Crete flight also diverted to Shannon as they needed a minima of 650 metres RVR. The returning Eirjet flight from Verona was also lost to Cork and she diverted to Shannon. An Aer Arann flight diverted also but to Kerry Airport at Farranfore.
A Spanish aircraft landed at Cork on a CATII approach just after midnight flying the EIR805 from Palma so at least the outbound pax should get out soon.
Cork Airport is this weekend once again lettering her passengers down. As usual the weather and low cloud will be blamed - a handy excuse indeed but it is all a load of rubbish isn't it?
Yet again, it is necessary to call for the installation of a CATIII approach at Cork Airport and without the silly excuses about cost, maintenance, the rad alt issue at the dip and the most stupid excuse of all that of a CATIII not being justified at Cork!
Can you believe this kind of utter tosh!? No where else in Ireland, Britain or Europe are passengers being dished out so much shabbiness by an airport. Perhaps some of tonight's lost flights at Cork would still have had to divert even if CATIII was installed but look at the huge numbers of flights that would be saved over the course of say, three, six, or twelve months? The saved revenue would easily help pay for maintenance etc for the installation?
It is time to save Cork Airport and to save what is left of her credibility as the most important international transport asset in the south Munster region of Ireland and if the people who are charged with managing Cork Airport are so not up to the task they should resign.
Cork Airport and her passengers deserve better - they deserve the best.
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Good point LTN man. The very same question was posed yesterday morning by the landing FR901 pilot. It went somethinhg like - Everywhere else in Europe it is summer but not Cork to which the the ATCO replied - This is our usual summer!
Says it all?
The campaign to save Cork Airport and any remaining credibility she may still have begins here.
Says it all?
The campaign to save Cork Airport and any remaining credibility she may still have begins here.
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Well in Cork during the winter it is the rain and bad weather, during the summer it is the fog!!!!
I dont have any stats bt just making an off the cuff remark, there seems to be more diversions in the summer than the winter???
I know there may be a higher volume with charters etc.....
As for cat III, yea it is defo needed but can only be installed on one side, due to the terrain falling away on the other side. Cant remember which one is 17 & 35.
But CAT III poses another question. How many operators flying into ORK are actually CAT III enabled?? Or even more important, their pilots are CAT III certified?? RE definatley are not anyway.....
I also think that some airlines SOP specifys CAT I approaches only! I think WW are the main culprits here as their SOP specifys cat I only due to the cranes up there for the new terminal being built??
Heard this myself Friday morning. A Baby trying to get in on CAT I but couldn't and went into a hold. Dunno what happened as I had to switch off the scanneer and go to work!!!
But I definately agree, if even only 1 in 4 diversions would be avoided by a cat III installation, would be well worth it....
I dont have any stats bt just making an off the cuff remark, there seems to be more diversions in the summer than the winter???
I know there may be a higher volume with charters etc.....
As for cat III, yea it is defo needed but can only be installed on one side, due to the terrain falling away on the other side. Cant remember which one is 17 & 35.
But CAT III poses another question. How many operators flying into ORK are actually CAT III enabled?? Or even more important, their pilots are CAT III certified?? RE definatley are not anyway.....
I also think that some airlines SOP specifys CAT I approaches only! I think WW are the main culprits here as their SOP specifys cat I only due to the cranes up there for the new terminal being built??
Heard this myself Friday morning. A Baby trying to get in on CAT I but couldn't and went into a hold. Dunno what happened as I had to switch off the scanneer and go to work!!!
But I definately agree, if even only 1 in 4 diversions would be avoided by a cat III installation, would be well worth it....
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Speaking at dinner on weekend with a senior Aer Lingus director. Seems all the new flights ex ORK with EI are perfroming badly and are being closely examined with likely major cuts. Rome and Munich are poor but Faro is apparently very low loads and yield. EI making decision mid July on this. They are rethinking complete strategy at ORK now and are getting little help from ORK management.
Bad news for Cork.
Bad news for Cork.
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I'd heard that Munich and Faro were poor, but heard that Rome and Nice were doing OK. Also, the extra capacity on Amsterdam and Malaga was OK. My source would have been nowhere near as senior as the board of Aer Lingus though
I was a bit surprised they went for 3 flights a week to Munich and Faro considering these are only 1x daily routes from Dublin. Switching capacity to Alicante and Barcelona, which sell well, could be in order.
BTW I hear BMIBaby are cutting frequency to Cork this winter, including going down to 1x daily to Manchester. Anyone know more about this? The way BMIBaby have been treating the Manchester route makes me long to see the days of 3 expensive BA flights to Manchester return.
I was a bit surprised they went for 3 flights a week to Munich and Faro considering these are only 1x daily routes from Dublin. Switching capacity to Alicante and Barcelona, which sell well, could be in order.
BTW I hear BMIBaby are cutting frequency to Cork this winter, including going down to 1x daily to Manchester. Anyone know more about this? The way BMIBaby have been treating the Manchester route makes me long to see the days of 3 expensive BA flights to Manchester return.
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Debate has been raging all morning on local radio (96 FM) about Eirjet operations out of Cork. Eirjet now being referred to as Onejet!
The Eirjet Zakynthos flight arrived at Cork about 11 am so all in all the passengers to and from ZAK were 14 hours late going and 25 hours late returning to Cork.
Yesterday's outbound AGP Eirjet passengers got away this morning around 9.25 am, some 23 hours late.
Cork TD (MP) Noel O'Flynn, FF, wants Eirjet investigated.
All of this poor operation by Eirjet towards Cork passengers is a huge disgrace and Eirjet are now deserving of nil credibility by anyone?
What is worse though is the harm being done as a result of the above on the name of Cork Airport. Eirjet blaming bad weather at Cork Airport for they not having enough capacity to meet all their committments is hollow and this line fools no one.
Cork Airport is also being brought down even more in the eyes of the travelling public by the goings on of Eirjet and Cork Airport needs to stand firm and to deal with this matter forcefully.
The Eirjet Zakynthos flight arrived at Cork about 11 am so all in all the passengers to and from ZAK were 14 hours late going and 25 hours late returning to Cork.
Yesterday's outbound AGP Eirjet passengers got away this morning around 9.25 am, some 23 hours late.
Cork TD (MP) Noel O'Flynn, FF, wants Eirjet investigated.
All of this poor operation by Eirjet towards Cork passengers is a huge disgrace and Eirjet are now deserving of nil credibility by anyone?
What is worse though is the harm being done as a result of the above on the name of Cork Airport. Eirjet blaming bad weather at Cork Airport for they not having enough capacity to meet all their committments is hollow and this line fools no one.
Cork Airport is also being brought down even more in the eyes of the travelling public by the goings on of Eirjet and Cork Airport needs to stand firm and to deal with this matter forcefully.
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Dont know much about 'Onejet', but do know that the weather in Cork IS frequently a MAJOR problem.
If anybody is trying to operate a schedule using one aircraft with
regular visits to Cork, they better have a good 'back up plan'!
Certainly no excuse for not trying to source an alternative aircraft to get its schedule back on course, but until Cork sorted itself out
with regard to Cat 2 or 3 - i would avoid it like the plague!
If anybody is trying to operate a schedule using one aircraft with
regular visits to Cork, they better have a good 'back up plan'!
Certainly no excuse for not trying to source an alternative aircraft to get its schedule back on course, but until Cork sorted itself out
with regard to Cat 2 or 3 - i would avoid it like the plague!
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Well, the Eirjet flight from Izmir just landed back at Cork a few minutes ago. The flight had been due at 1910 hours local. Thankfully, the crew on the hired in Omni 757 did not go out of hours this time like they did at Zakyntos!
Eirjet had five different aeroplanes on the go around the same time on Monday evening operating out of Cork, dub, snn and Belfast.
That is some hire in bill?
Eirjet had five different aeroplanes on the go around the same time on Monday evening operating out of Cork, dub, snn and Belfast.
That is some hire in bill?
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North American 752, White(Portugal) A310, Air Luxor A330, Travel Service 737, Spanair Md80, Slovak 752, Blueline Md80, Air Plus A310 and probably many more.
There are supposed to be two Eirjet A320's arriving from Hamburg soon, so hopefully they might put some sort of an operation together before the end of the summer.
There are supposed to be two Eirjet A320's arriving from Hamburg soon, so hopefully they might put some sort of an operation together before the end of the summer.