Flybe Purchase EMB195 (merged)

[easyswimmer]

Excrab, you are correct, I do not know what is going on in the training department now and at no point have I claimed to. I only have my experience of it up until October last year to call upon, and it is that experience to which I refer.

I will stop here cos It wasn't meant to be a slagging of the company. It was my experience of flybe when I was there, and how I view it now i have left Simple as that.

[Artificial Horizon]

Interesting topic, having just completed my training with my first post flybe airline, I thought that I would add my two pence worth.

When I joined flybe the training department was in a bit of a mess and it was very much a case of feeling stuck in an internal argument between disgruntled trainers and management. It improved over time but I felt was starting to slip a little again just before I left. The training at my new airline is far more organised and professional than at flybe but I don't think it is any better, some of the trainers at flybe were excellent, some weren't! The more that I progress in my airline career the more that I can see that every airline has it good points and bad points. Overall flybe was a good fun airline to work for and provided me with that very valuble start in the industry and for that I will always be thankful. Flybe did not however provide me with the career prospects and financial reward that my new airline can provide so the decision to leave was not hard.

[flybe.com]

With regard to the large number of pilots leaving flybe, the next move by MW is not to improve the general Terms & Conditions, instead he wants to increase the notice period to 6 months!!!

[er82]

And, apparently, after a 'trial' which consisted of us giving up 3 days leave to allow 6on 3off, it seems the CC aren't being given the chance to vote, and have been told they will now lose 8leave days (which are effectively bank holidays in lieu).......

Don't know how the voting will go for the flight deck - if they get the chance to vote.......

[easyswimmer]

I don't know too much about this, but between easy and the caa it has been scientifically proven that 6on3off is a fatiguing roster pattern. When we had the chance to vote 5/2/5/4 the feeling seemed to be that we couldn't go back to 6/3 becasue of the findings of the study.

Hard to see how the caa would allow flybe a 6/3 roster after that.

5/2/5/4 is just fantastic.

[orangetree]

6/3 was not scientifically proven to be fatiguing..it was the way Easy chose to deliver it that was (apparently). All the PR claptrap from the orange hut about 6/3 being doomed was very 'carefully' worded. Funnily enough the way Easy chose to deliver 5254 is even more fatiguing. 6/3 is a fine plan if rostered sensibly. I hope the flybe guys get it without much sacrifice but a couple of years down the line don't let a bunch of Union muppets railroad you down the 5254 road..it ain't funny.

[Smokie]

Instead of 5254, what about 5353 or even 4444?

[gator bait]

I hear that the guys hired on the 7on - 7off remote roster are getting as equally shafted as the rest of us. I have also heard that some of the over 60`s are on the verge of qutting Flybe already! Can this be true?