Flybe Purchase EMB195 (merged)
There is one slightly odd thing about this. The firm orders for the 195 are 14 in number, which is exactly the same as the quantity of 146s in service at the moment (six -200s and eight -300s). However, JF is quoted as saying elsewhere that the first 195s will replace the 737-300s on lease. If this is the case, and there are three of those in service, that means that they need 17 jets to replace all of the existing fleet on a one-for-one basis. Does this mean replacement of jets with Q400s on some routes and anyone any idea of likely candidates?
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Since I've not been at BHD early enough in the morning lately (and because the cynical money grabbing gits upstairs have more or less obliterated the view from the departure lounge with a massive duty free shop... I thought BFS were the only ones who'd stoop that low 
) I've not been able to count BE's fleet that's based there - how many Q400 and 146 are based at BHD, and what routes do the 146 currently operate?
The capabilities of a Q400 and 195 fleet suggest that there could be some changing of aircraft types on different routes, and since JF has said 'some' will be based at BHD, it'd be interesting to know where they'll be flying to...
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) I've not been able to count BE's fleet that's based there - how many Q400 and 146 are based at BHD, and what routes do the 146 currently operate?The capabilities of a Q400 and 195 fleet suggest that there could be some changing of aircraft types on different routes, and since JF has said 'some' will be based at BHD, it'd be interesting to know where they'll be flying to...
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Are they still waiting for operational approval for London City Airport?
Think you're missing a key point. Flybe pulled out of LCY six months ago and isn't planning to go back. So it doesn't need the 195 to have LCY certification.
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Flybe 195's
Does anyone know what the 195's runway requirements are?
If Flybe are able to operate it commercially out of Guernsey,
then Southend's runway should be OK, if as rumoured the
airline is looking to Southend for it's South East base.
If Flybe are able to operate it commercially out of Guernsey,
then Southend's runway should be OK, if as rumoured the
airline is looking to Southend for it's South East base.
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Sorry Konkordski
Should have made my post clearer and asked: Has the E195 obtained operational approval for LCY? No doubt other airlines are interested because one of the aircraft was recently at City for certification purposes.
Should have made my post clearer and asked: Has the E195 obtained operational approval for LCY? No doubt other airlines are interested because one of the aircraft was recently at City for certification purposes.
flightrider,
according to my APS Mass and Index sheet dated 3rd June 2005 we have 15 B146s.
200's AJ, AK, AS, AV, AW, AX, AY.
300's AM, BA, BB, BC, BD, BE, BF, BG.
I agree that that still does leave a disparity in the figures though.
BPM
and whilst i'm here..........
where are the negative and pedantic views of notac and MOR who said that this order was "propaganda" "never gonna happen" "pie in the sky".............
Need i go on?
You look pretty stu-pid now guys.
But i'm sure you've got a smart ass comment to come back at me with!
BPM
according to my APS Mass and Index sheet dated 3rd June 2005 we have 15 B146s.
200's AJ, AK, AS, AV, AW, AX, AY.
300's AM, BA, BB, BC, BD, BE, BF, BG.
I agree that that still does leave a disparity in the figures though.
BPM
and whilst i'm here..........
where are the negative and pedantic views of notac and MOR who said that this order was "propaganda" "never gonna happen" "pie in the sky".............
Need i go on?
You look pretty stu-pid now guys.
But i'm sure you've got a smart ass comment to come back at me with!
BPM
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With regards to FlyBE at BHD from memory when I left there in February was
2 BAe 146's
5 Dash-8 Q400's
The 146's operated the BHX and LGW rotations.
Regards
P.S. Don't know if more have been based since LPL,ABZ and NWH routes started.
2 BAe 146's
5 Dash-8 Q400's
The 146's operated the BHX and LGW rotations.
Regards
P.S. Don't know if more have been based since LPL,ABZ and NWH routes started.
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They are filling the 733s very well. Yesterdays pax figures for all flights out of BHX on the 733 were over 110. Pax figures from EXT were 148 both ways on the ALC, a little less on the AGP and the BES had about 60 o/b and 90 i/b.
Regards
Mike
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170 was at LCY not 195.
190 is not certified yet so nobody has runway requirements. If you want an Idea check th EMB website.
Single Type rating for 170/175/190/195
cf34-10e various subtypes max 18500lbf possibility of growth as required.
190 is not certified yet so nobody has runway requirements. If you want an Idea check th EMB website.
Single Type rating for 170/175/190/195
cf34-10e various subtypes max 18500lbf possibility of growth as required.
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sou for 195's
may create probs at sou as 195's can only park on stands 1-4 (out of 13) as tail is too high for other stands as proximity to runway. This will no doubt piss off other airlines as 1-4 are most convenient for boarding/disembarking etc.... hmmmm...
Trislander, on the subject of being pedantic, not all Stands at SOU can accomodate B757s, which actually take up 1.5 Stands when parked.
Firstly only that part of the apron between the mini Stand 1 (after BAA built a giant portakabin next to the original Stand) and Stand 5 can take the weight.
Secondly, due to the tail fin height of a B757 (and B737/A320) they cannot park on Stand 5.
Stands 6-12 cannot be used. Due to the proximity of these Stands to the runway, a current height restriction of around 9.5 metres applies to Stands 6-12, fine for a 146, but not a lot else. Above this height an aircraft is an obstacle to the runway and could affect the runway operation.
The Stand 6-12 height issue could have been resolved during the planning of the new multi-storey car park, insetting its eastern edge to allow for enlargement of the Stands. However the airport's senior management at the time decreed that it should go in its current position, against the advice of their qualified subordinate staff. Furhtermore when the car park was completed it posed a security threat, overlooking Stands 6-12. This resulted in further considerable expense, to BAA, to install a high security fence around the upper level.
If I were a BAA shareholder I'd want those responsible bringing to book, but unfortunately as with many large companies when you reach a certain level of management, such cock-ups are glossed over.
Bottom line is, where are the ERJ 195s going to park when Stands 2,3,4 are taken up with B737s/A320s and the odd B757? With the tail fin height of 10.52 metres, can the 195 be squeezed onto Stands 6-12, or will the car park win!
Firstly only that part of the apron between the mini Stand 1 (after BAA built a giant portakabin next to the original Stand) and Stand 5 can take the weight.
Secondly, due to the tail fin height of a B757 (and B737/A320) they cannot park on Stand 5.
Stands 6-12 cannot be used. Due to the proximity of these Stands to the runway, a current height restriction of around 9.5 metres applies to Stands 6-12, fine for a 146, but not a lot else. Above this height an aircraft is an obstacle to the runway and could affect the runway operation.
The Stand 6-12 height issue could have been resolved during the planning of the new multi-storey car park, insetting its eastern edge to allow for enlargement of the Stands. However the airport's senior management at the time decreed that it should go in its current position, against the advice of their qualified subordinate staff. Furhtermore when the car park was completed it posed a security threat, overlooking Stands 6-12. This resulted in further considerable expense, to BAA, to install a high security fence around the upper level.
If I were a BAA shareholder I'd want those responsible bringing to book, but unfortunately as with many large companies when you reach a certain level of management, such cock-ups are glossed over.
Bottom line is, where are the ERJ 195s going to park when Stands 2,3,4 are taken up with B737s/A320s and the odd B757? With the tail fin height of 10.52 metres, can the 195 be squeezed onto Stands 6-12, or will the car park win!
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Hey BPM, how's it goin mate.
G-JEAV has now left our fleet to sit in the corner of an airfield somewhere looking sorry for itself. No more ghost stories to scare the new recruits with then!
Tri
G-JEAV has now left our fleet to sit in the corner of an airfield somewhere looking sorry for itself. No more ghost stories to scare the new recruits with then!
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Well, as somebody bobbing around in the hold pool for the Q400, this is pleasant news indeed. Looking forward very much to the Dash already, and beginning to drool very slightly at the thought of playing with the Embraer sometime down the line too. Interesting a/c, and with a common rating across the family, perhaps the possibility of some globe trotting too. Anyone in NZ buying yet? 