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Jetlife - wrong.
You really should call Flywho, they are telling potential customers that Jetlife are bonding and doing the ticket sales. Try it for yourself sometime. It all add's up to charter style basically doesn't it.
If not Turkish... tell us who is then? Or maybe you don't know at all?
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Jetlife IS wrong. I would listen again to what they tell you!
You're warm.... but not hot.
I don't claim to know more than anyone else, 330-Purser. Just more than you!
There are more models of airlines than a simple charter or scheduled split. Wait and see.
I could post a lot more on flywho on here - but a lot of what is planned is confidential, and a lot of it would be VERY interesting to some existing operators. Have patience!!
There is NO Turkish involvement in flywho.
TFL
You're warm.... but not hot.
I don't claim to know more than anyone else, 330-Purser. Just more than you!
There are more models of airlines than a simple charter or scheduled split. Wait and see.
I could post a lot more on flywho on here - but a lot of what is planned is confidential, and a lot of it would be VERY interesting to some existing operators. Have patience!!
There is NO Turkish involvement in flywho.
TFL
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I see they are still going with their "No children under 7 in the Gold cabin" nonsense.
Sounds like a good venture, whether it'll succeed or not, I don't know. And nice to see that they charge the child rate to 14 years. (did you see that bit warkman??")
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Its nonsense eal401 because they are discriminating against all parents of children under 7.
It has nothing to do with selfishness.
Would you complain if theys aid no blacks in Gold, or no disabled or no women? Its the same sort of discrimination. My money is just as good as a parent with a teenager brat who can be more annoying than my 3 years old, or a buisnessman who gets his Gold cabin seat paid for by a company then goews and has sex with a woman sitting next to him he has just met but they get pissed and embarras the rest of the cabin, or the adult who deficates on the trolly, both as you know true stories, but Flywho have diecided that if we want to fly with them, we have to sit in cramped tight seats in economy, just because Murcott seems not to like children, well guess what? most people on this route take children for some reason, could WDW have something to do with that?
Now Flywho can keep their Gold cabin, I will NEVER fly with them for two reasons
1) Virgins Upper Class seats are more comfortable than last generation recardo type seats
2) If my well behaved son is not acceptable to them fthe Gold cabin, then they bare not acceptable to me.
It has nothing to do with selfishness.
Would you complain if theys aid no blacks in Gold, or no disabled or no women? Its the same sort of discrimination. My money is just as good as a parent with a teenager brat who can be more annoying than my 3 years old, or a buisnessman who gets his Gold cabin seat paid for by a company then goews and has sex with a woman sitting next to him he has just met but they get pissed and embarras the rest of the cabin, or the adult who deficates on the trolly, both as you know true stories, but Flywho have diecided that if we want to fly with them, we have to sit in cramped tight seats in economy, just because Murcott seems not to like children, well guess what? most people on this route take children for some reason, could WDW have something to do with that?
Now Flywho can keep their Gold cabin, I will NEVER fly with them for two reasons
1) Virgins Upper Class seats are more comfortable than last generation recardo type seats
2) If my well behaved son is not acceptable to them fthe Gold cabin, then they bare not acceptable to me.
Warkman
I don't see the problem with giving PAX who will pay a seat in a quiet area of the aircraft - i.e. no screaming kids!
It's a long flight to Florida and there are too many thoughless parents who decide to give little Johnny his first experience of flying on long-haul.
When our daughter was young we deliberately gave her her first trip to Ibiza, just a couple of hours, so it wasn't too stressfull either for her or the people around us. She was no trouble and now flies hapilly anywhere and everywhere.
I don't see the problem with giving PAX who will pay a seat in a quiet area of the aircraft - i.e. no screaming kids!
It's a long flight to Florida and there are too many thoughless parents who decide to give little Johnny his first experience of flying on long-haul.
When our daughter was young we deliberately gave her her first trip to Ibiza, just a couple of hours, so it wasn't too stressfull either for her or the people around us. She was no trouble and now flies hapilly anywhere and everywhere.
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This airline looks like a breath of fresh air to the last 5 years of LCC school playground marketing (my flight's cheaper than your flight). An airline that credits its target market with some intelligence.
I see that Flywho is owned by BluArrow Aviation Limited, but who's behind the venture? Any characters? Escapees from another airline? Privately funded?
Absolutely fascinated as to how these folks are setting up from scratch. I appreciate that some of this might be very confidential at the moment but hopefully someone will post some answers one day.
The best of luck to FlyWho. Please can someone do this for us in Bournemouth- some wealthy people around these parts.
I see that Flywho is owned by BluArrow Aviation Limited, but who's behind the venture? Any characters? Escapees from another airline? Privately funded?
Absolutely fascinated as to how these folks are setting up from scratch. I appreciate that some of this might be very confidential at the moment but hopefully someone will post some answers one day.
The best of luck to FlyWho. Please can someone do this for us in Bournemouth- some wealthy people around these parts.
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Get a life (and a spell checker)!
Warkman, you are hard work.
Frankly I dont think I would want you sitting next to me for ten hours, let alone any offspring you might produce.
We can see that your comments come from a lifetime in senior management and it is so obvious that you have run a big company before and made ALL the decisions based entirely on your personal prejudices rather than thinking about the value to the customers as a whole. Well done. We bow to you!
Actually I think we will all be better off if you dont fly in those nasty old Gold seats at all. You will do us a favour. If I buy a seat there (and I definately will) I dont want a moron next to me for ten hours. Indeed, your kid will probably be cleverer. He might even be able to spell!!!
So you do as you threaten. Dont fly with nasty old flywho. You show them. pooh to them eh! They will be gutted I suspect when they hear you went with someone else just cos 'Murcott seems not to like children'.
Whatever you are drinking, STOP IT NOW! It is doing you no good whatsoever! Perhaps you could explain 'could WDW have something to do with that?'
Just a small point but there is no seat manufacturer called recardo, but then you knew that didnt you!
Bognor is nice you know, and you dont need any airline to get you there. Right up your street I imagine!
Frankly I dont think I would want you sitting next to me for ten hours, let alone any offspring you might produce.
We can see that your comments come from a lifetime in senior management and it is so obvious that you have run a big company before and made ALL the decisions based entirely on your personal prejudices rather than thinking about the value to the customers as a whole. Well done. We bow to you!
Actually I think we will all be better off if you dont fly in those nasty old Gold seats at all. You will do us a favour. If I buy a seat there (and I definately will) I dont want a moron next to me for ten hours. Indeed, your kid will probably be cleverer. He might even be able to spell!!!
So you do as you threaten. Dont fly with nasty old flywho. You show them. pooh to them eh! They will be gutted I suspect when they hear you went with someone else just cos 'Murcott seems not to like children'.
Whatever you are drinking, STOP IT NOW! It is doing you no good whatsoever! Perhaps you could explain 'could WDW have something to do with that?'
Just a small point but there is no seat manufacturer called recardo, but then you knew that didnt you!
Bognor is nice you know, and you dont need any airline to get you there. Right up your street I imagine!
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Where has everyone gone???
Amazing how it has all gone quiet here.
I cant believe that you are all so upset and vocal about the 'nasty flywho' one day, and the next you are silent. What is going on in your minds??????
I am happy to tell you that I have an interview with flywho for crew (so there, nerrrr) and if you dont I would not be too suprised if you are a regular poster on here!
Hoping for a lot but expecting little (if I am honest) because despite my enthusiasm I am also a realist! I know that this company have a tough job to make this work now that they have upset most of the aviation community in the region, but lets see.
Please post if you also have a call to interview.
happy 2005
I cant believe that you are all so upset and vocal about the 'nasty flywho' one day, and the next you are silent. What is going on in your minds??????
I am happy to tell you that I have an interview with flywho for crew (so there, nerrrr) and if you dont I would not be too suprised if you are a regular poster on here!
Hoping for a lot but expecting little (if I am honest) because despite my enthusiasm I am also a realist! I know that this company have a tough job to make this work now that they have upset most of the aviation community in the region, but lets see.
Please post if you also have a call to interview.
happy 2005
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Well I have to agree with nice guy. I think there will be a lot of egg on peoples faces come end of summer 2005.
Flywho are offering a service sadly lacking from BHX currently and indeed any other midland regional airport.
They have done their research and I know have massive financial backing
SO roll on the lauch and I look forward to my interview also in the next few weeks!
Flywho are offering a service sadly lacking from BHX currently and indeed any other midland regional airport.
They have done their research and I know have massive financial backing
SO roll on the lauch and I look forward to my interview also in the next few weeks!
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Hi Guys
Well i am in total shock, i have watched this so called company over the last 2 years or so, especially on here, when it was flyblu and what a shambles they are.
They promised to be set up this time last year with cabin crew, flight deck etc.......
All this so called company have done is change there name again, and you all fall for it, have they actually got an aircraft yet ? have u proof ? i spoke to my friend who works at BHX and in there dept they have not heard of this outfit !
They charge astronomical sums of money to get to the usa, when you can go there from £180.00.
I personally think this is some wild dream someone is having and they will have the EGG on there face for sure.
Well i am in total shock, i have watched this so called company over the last 2 years or so, especially on here, when it was flyblu and what a shambles they are.
They promised to be set up this time last year with cabin crew, flight deck etc.......
All this so called company have done is change there name again, and you all fall for it, have they actually got an aircraft yet ? have u proof ? i spoke to my friend who works at BHX and in there dept they have not heard of this outfit !
They charge astronomical sums of money to get to the usa, when you can go there from £180.00.
I personally think this is some wild dream someone is having and they will have the EGG on there face for sure.
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Mike16, so they're not flying yet. Then you don't need to complain about their prices do you?
I'm just willing to reserve my judgement until they have made a go of it. Why are people in the UK so keen to knock new ventures and people trying something different?
If they don't exist, they're hardly making your life worse, so quit complaining.
I'm just willing to reserve my judgement until they have made a go of it. Why are people in the UK so keen to knock new ventures and people trying something different?
If they don't exist, they're hardly making your life worse, so quit complaining.
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Hi
I am not against any new set up, i say go for it, but if you have read threads on flyblu and flywho you will know they have not got the greatest fan club.
Last year when they were flyblu they got a lot of people all worked up and a lot of false promises were made, which never materialised.
I suggest you do a search on flyblu on here and you will see what i mean.
However if it is a gen company i wish them a lot of luck..
I am not against any new set up, i say go for it, but if you have read threads on flyblu and flywho you will know they have not got the greatest fan club.
Last year when they were flyblu they got a lot of people all worked up and a lot of false promises were made, which never materialised.
I suggest you do a search on flyblu on here and you will see what i mean.
However if it is a gen company i wish them a lot of luck..
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Mike16 / The Greaser
You're missing the point on the airline's pricing strategy.
They don't believe they need to be the cheapest, and thus their prices are as you describe.
Whether there will be enough passengers willing to pay these fares to find out whether the airline provides good value for money is another thing altogether.
Mike16
That they don't have an aircraft at this stage is irrelevant - whether they have one if and when they start operations is.
You say that your friend who works in BHX hasn't heard of the airline in their department - tell us what department this is, then we can make a decision whether this relevant or not...
You're missing the point on the airline's pricing strategy.
They don't believe they need to be the cheapest, and thus their prices are as you describe.
Whether there will be enough passengers willing to pay these fares to find out whether the airline provides good value for money is another thing altogether.
Mike16
That they don't have an aircraft at this stage is irrelevant - whether they have one if and when they start operations is.
You say that your friend who works in BHX hasn't heard of the airline in their department - tell us what department this is, then we can make a decision whether this relevant or not...
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I think you'll find that the airport marketing folks at BHX (ie the ones whose actual job it is to talk to airlines) are well aware of flyblu's/flywho's existence.
The fact that they have made a very public switch from the 767-300 (relatively plentiful in the market) to the A310 (less so) suggests to me that they have identified a specific source for the aircraft or are close to doing so. I wouldn't expect them to actually take delivery of the aircraft (and start paying for it) until at the earliest a week or two before first revenue flight.
The fact that they have made a very public switch from the 767-300 (relatively plentiful in the market) to the A310 (less so) suggests to me that they have identified a specific source for the aircraft or are close to doing so. I wouldn't expect them to actually take delivery of the aircraft (and start paying for it) until at the earliest a week or two before first revenue flight.
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Cyrano
Think you're wrong about the A310 / 767-300 availability. The A310 lease rates are cheaper, plenty around (including parked up in the USA) whereas 767-300s seem to get snapped up as soon as they become available. However there do seem to be more 767-200s around.
Think you're wrong about the A310 / 767-300 availability. The A310 lease rates are cheaper, plenty around (including parked up in the USA) whereas 767-300s seem to get snapped up as soon as they become available. However there do seem to be more 767-200s around.