Flywho!
 

Anyone checked out there site recently, had a massive upgrade take a look......:ok:
http://www.flywho.co.uk/

Wow, certainly an improvement, and after all the promises, it is really good to see this at last. Just a quote though, nothing confirmed - and the cheapest flight I could find - to Orlando in Oct was £686. There must be cheaper fares if you hunt around though, but this premium is still way above any of their rivals imho. Has anyone booked with them yet?

I am looking to book to Florida in Jan 06, and flywho is one of the most expensive prices i have found (£1,700 family of 4) close on £600 more than with AA via MIA.

Come to think of it, if you are prepared to connect then nearly every carrier has cheaper deals in Jan 06....and given the choice i'll am going to cheap that extra £600 in my bank and fly AA from MAN.

I always want to see new airlines suceed but I can't help feeling this one is doomed to fail. For the sake of a 1-2 hour drive people can get cheaper flights to Orlando from Heathrow and Manchester.

They might be able to carve a niche market for the flights to Clearwater and Fort Lauderdale but the A310 seems the wrong choice of aircraft again.

What happens when they need maintenance? They're aren't many A310 operators in the Uk. At least Britannia would havebeen able to help them out with the 767's.

I see they are still going with their "No children under 7 in the Gold cabin" nonsense.

They will never get my flights because of that.

Do Airbus/BAe Systems still carry out A300/A310 work at Bristol Filton or is the hangar now solely used by MK Cargo?

BHX-FZO isn't that far to ferry an airbus.

WNC

Congratulations to the posters above who have missed the point of flywho.

If you are going for the lowest fare, it won't be flywho. They are offering a PREMIUM economy service - not an economy service - so comparing their fares with CO, VS or BA economy fares is not comparing like with like. Do a comparison between WTP (BA) or PE (VS) and you'll see lots in flywho's favour....

If you want to pay £300 to go back and forth to Florida in a seat marginally smaller than you are, with cardboard food - fine. That is just not the market flywho are trying to serve!

We did Gatwick - Orlando last Easter with BA (777) family of 4 £1,500. Excellent on-time (push was 2 mins early at LGW) WORKING seat-back entertainment for the young'uns, food OK, friendly service, comfort of knowing there's a backup a/c at LGW.

I know it was in Economy and no seat/upgrade available as it was packed, but felt confident that the airline would get us there and back when they said they would (as indeed they did) The best price we found was Icelandair via Reykjavik and LaGuardia which I would have preferred but not with a family in tow! and it would have taken twice as long.

Good luck to anyone trying something new, but remember what happened to Freddie Laker when he tried a premium service UK-Florida, using an a/c type he was familiar with...

Cheers,
The Odd One

Surely in this day and age when it's cost that matters over and above service, why would someone want to start up a premium only airline? Seems daft and risky to me.:confused:

I agree with you Trislander. And withouth being rude and disrespectful to the people from Birmingham, surely it would make more sense to operate this service from a southern airport? (eg LGW, STN even LTN) This is because the people who are most likely to want to pay more for a premium flight (aka rich people) are found more in the south than the midlands!

The Flying Lip,

I think Nickmanl gives the reasons why we are sceptical about such a premium service from Birmingham. Even if they do want to offer "a little extra", did they really have to offer as much as a 38" minimum pitch? Not sure how wide the seats are, but most of their charter rivals will be more like 30, so this is quite a premium.

Or, does operating with less seats give them operational advantages off BHX's short runway? I don't think the other charter operators have a problem getting down to Florida though do they - just the scheduled airlines trying to take lots of freight as well as pax?

Personally I consider the A310-300 to be an inspirational choice of equipment which fits the route structure and cabin configuration perfectly. There are some excellent late models available and I have no doubt that they will fit the bill.

As for Britannia being able to maintain the 767, there is always Monarch who can provide engineering support for the 'bus.....the A310 is just a short fuselage A300 after all (was originally called the A300 B10).

I am often amazed at some of the garbage people post on here. :hmm:


Rabbs:ok:

Just wondered if they are looking at recruiting some low houred pilots

DTYSAPCO :ooh:

Depends what you fly. I guess there is one way to find out, and that is to apply....

As for Trislander's comments - if that were the case, why do BA and Virgin get all those people in WTP/PE/Upper/Club and First?

I think that flywho have hit on something pretty cool here. And I will bet you that they will have done a lot more numbers and research than most people on here!

TA

JABird,

We tried their cabin seats at the Travel show.

the standard or "Silver" cabin seats had excellent leg room, however the width felt tighter than anyone elses economy seat and the recline (remeber you have a large distance between the rows) was rubbish, no better than normal economy recline.

the Gold cabin seats were like Virgin's old Upper Class "Recardo" seats.

I see that if you go to the original web site www.flyblu.co.uk it does not link to the new site, so people who are not aware that the company has changed names or have the new URL will be totally in the dark.

Great to see some development!
 

Hi there ppruners.

Been away for some while with no decent dial up available so have been caught out by the BIG UPGRADE on flyblu/flywho/flywhat etc website!

As you know, I am in favour of this adventure. I applaud the men and women behind it and hope like anything that they pull it off.

Interestingly, previous posters have now started to understand the concept, though it seems to still be rather slow in getting home with many others. This is PREMIUM economy, NOT economy!!!

Happy to see someone else thinks the A310 is an inspirational choice! Maybe the welsh are not as simple as they look!! JUST JOKING!!!!

I have to say that if I was taking a family of 4 and lived close to BHX I would NOT drive for two hours, Pay £130 to park for 14 days and then fly stock economy instead of taking the blu/who/what/when route direct in LONG legroom. Some will save it but some will spend it-

GOOD LUCK to you all. Happy Christmas and keep on smiling!

niceguy

p.s. Free seats to anywhere welcome if anyone has any!!!!

The A310 could well be a good choice, but hardly inspirational. Fact is there are quite a few parked up in the desert at the moment and several operators are offering reasonably priced packages to fly them.

Will Flywho be operating the flight themselves (providing crew wtc..) or will they just be selling tickets with another airline providing an aircraft/crew etc..

There were mention of Islandsflug being involved when Flyblu switched from the proposed B767 to the A310

WNC

Taking into account they have stated tickets will be ATOL protected, and from information I've heard, it is Jetlife that will be bonding the passengers for Flywho. I think its going to be a Euromanx style operation.

As for the aircraft itself, I heard a certain Turkish carrier may be involved with a name not too disimilar to a certain UK golden oldie tour operator...

330-Purser -

Jetlife - wrong.
Euromanx style - wrong.
Turkish? - wrong.

0/3. Must try harder!

TFL ;)