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Looks like EMA is in for a few extra pax during Nov/Dec
http://www.thomsonfly.com/en/company_1728.html
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Hi Mike16, I'm gd thanks. Hope you are?
I can't see EZY launching EMA-DTM for 2 reasons:
1. Surely DTM is too close to CGN for both to be served from EMA?
2. I'm sure there are several routes EZY could launch from EMA which would be much more successful financially than DTM.
We should be a total A319 base quite shortly, I better book a flight as I still haven't been on an EZY 319!!!
I can't see EZY launching EMA-DTM for 2 reasons:
1. Surely DTM is too close to CGN for both to be served from EMA?
2. I'm sure there are several routes EZY could launch from EMA which would be much more successful financially than DTM.
We should be a total A319 base quite shortly, I better book a flight as I still haven't been on an EZY 319!!!
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Nottingham East Midlands Airport (Nema) has blamed changing holiday habits for a fifth consecutive month of falling passengers numbers.
Nema said 465,932 people travelled from the airport last month, down 6.9 per cent on August last year. During the same period, passengers at all other UK airports were up 3.8 per cent.
The number of flights out of Nema also fell last month, by 5.3 per cent to 5,153. This is despite destinations served by the airport rising by more than 20 in the past year.
A Nema spokesman said the number of flights had fallen because there were now more long-haul services, such as to Orlando and the Dominican Republic, which flew less frequently than short-haul trips.
In addition, fewer people were taking a holiday in the traditional summer period, he said.
The spokesman said: "There's not so much of a rush period in the summer as there used to be.
"Our passenger figures for January, February and March were all up on the year before."
It emerged earlier this month that passenger numbers had dropped at the airport. It saw a fall of nearly 100,000 passengers - eight per cent - in the three months to June, compared with the same period last year.
The airport said then that the decline might be due to increased competition from nearby airports, but added there was "no one factor" which could account for the drop.
Over the same period passenger numbers at all UK airports rose by more than six per cent.
In July, 7.6 per cent fewer passengers used the airport compared with the same month last year. Nema's August and July figures are yet to be validated by the Civil Aviation Authority.
David Gillingwater, senior lecturer in air transport studies at Loughborough University, said the decline was due to a reduction in flights to traditional holiday destinations during the summer because people now had a bigger choice of destinations. He said: "Demand is dropping for the two-week package holiday in the Costa Brava."
Nema said 465,932 people travelled from the airport last month, down 6.9 per cent on August last year. During the same period, passengers at all other UK airports were up 3.8 per cent.
The number of flights out of Nema also fell last month, by 5.3 per cent to 5,153. This is despite destinations served by the airport rising by more than 20 in the past year.
A Nema spokesman said the number of flights had fallen because there were now more long-haul services, such as to Orlando and the Dominican Republic, which flew less frequently than short-haul trips.
In addition, fewer people were taking a holiday in the traditional summer period, he said.
The spokesman said: "There's not so much of a rush period in the summer as there used to be.
"Our passenger figures for January, February and March were all up on the year before."
It emerged earlier this month that passenger numbers had dropped at the airport. It saw a fall of nearly 100,000 passengers - eight per cent - in the three months to June, compared with the same period last year.
The airport said then that the decline might be due to increased competition from nearby airports, but added there was "no one factor" which could account for the drop.
Over the same period passenger numbers at all UK airports rose by more than six per cent.
In July, 7.6 per cent fewer passengers used the airport compared with the same month last year. Nema's August and July figures are yet to be validated by the Civil Aviation Authority.
David Gillingwater, senior lecturer in air transport studies at Loughborough University, said the decline was due to a reduction in flights to traditional holiday destinations during the summer because people now had a bigger choice of destinations. He said: "Demand is dropping for the two-week package holiday in the Costa Brava."
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All raw figures have to be compared with other airports; if numbers of passengers handled fell for the reasons given ie. fewer people taking holidays in peak July/August period then this should be repeated at other airports. I suspect that they're clutching at straws; increased loco competition at BHX/CVT and DSA is the most likely reason. As has been said on here many times; EMA services seem to have stagnated over last 2 years. BMIbaby have gradually shifted some flights to BHX, Easyjet have made minor route changes and Ryanair have not added many new flights yet.(Next year should be interesting though)
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DC10FAN - I agree with you 100%.
DSA and CVT will undoubtedly have had an impact.
Previously WW have flown EMA-PSA, but this summer it is not available, yet down the road at CVT TOM fly CVT-PSA. I know a number of people from Castle Donington who now travel to CVT or BHX or LTN to get routes they have at times been able to get at EMA.
BCN previously flown by 2 airlines - now not available. etc etc etc.
Nobody connected to the airport is surprised at the figures, but it seems those that work FOR the airport are?! In fact, you can tell things have not been going well this year as the website only displays the monthly pax figs up to Dec04!
Hopefully FR will now be a driving force at EMA.
My view is that EMA has been a BD puppet show for about 20 years too long!
Another thing....while I am ranting.... who enters messages next to flights on the EMA Departures and Arrivals screens? Interesting inconsistency! Anyone around the terminal - or on the website...notice if a BD or WW flight is due to land 15 or 20 mins after the STA the message will probably read "Expected at....", should FR or EZY or T3 ever dare to allow a flight to run a bit behind schedule the message will more likely read "DELAYED".
I do not work for any of the above carriers....but it still annoys me when I imagine someone behind the Information Desk typing in all this stuff while their partner slumbers down at Donington Hall.
And that's all I have to say about that.
DSA and CVT will undoubtedly have had an impact.
Previously WW have flown EMA-PSA, but this summer it is not available, yet down the road at CVT TOM fly CVT-PSA. I know a number of people from Castle Donington who now travel to CVT or BHX or LTN to get routes they have at times been able to get at EMA.
BCN previously flown by 2 airlines - now not available. etc etc etc.
Nobody connected to the airport is surprised at the figures, but it seems those that work FOR the airport are?! In fact, you can tell things have not been going well this year as the website only displays the monthly pax figs up to Dec04!
Hopefully FR will now be a driving force at EMA.
My view is that EMA has been a BD puppet show for about 20 years too long!
Another thing....while I am ranting.... who enters messages next to flights on the EMA Departures and Arrivals screens? Interesting inconsistency! Anyone around the terminal - or on the website...notice if a BD or WW flight is due to land 15 or 20 mins after the STA the message will probably read "Expected at....", should FR or EZY or T3 ever dare to allow a flight to run a bit behind schedule the message will more likely read "DELAYED".
I do not work for any of the above carriers....but it still annoys me when I imagine someone behind the Information Desk typing in all this stuff while their partner slumbers down at Donington Hall.
And that's all I have to say about that.
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Competition from DSA, CVT and BHX, discontinuation of some routes, and a lack of new regular scheduled destinations (don't say there are more destinations, because there are not at least as far as frequent scheduled services are concerned) are the main reasons for NEMA's passenger figures dropping. There's even been a decline in capacity to the traditional destinations (AMS, CDG etc) because the resident "low-fare" operator simply isn't really that low-fare, but provides poor service. On the other hand, NEMA very effectively pushed a significant number of regular week-in, week-out business passengers to BHX when they so openly adopted the low-fare brigade - for better or for worse the boozers, shaggers and holiday homers only travel so many times a year, and how many times will they go to Prague before they get bored with that.
Without critical mass on each route, an airport embracing the low-fare model needs new routes to continue to stimulate demand, and for the most part NEMA has neither. Sadly, the airport management might just have been handed a "get-out-of-jail-free" card by O'Leary - without that, questions should justifiably have started to have been asked.
Without critical mass on each route, an airport embracing the low-fare model needs new routes to continue to stimulate demand, and for the most part NEMA has neither. Sadly, the airport management might just have been handed a "get-out-of-jail-free" card by O'Leary - without that, questions should justifiably have started to have been asked.
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NEMA was one ofhe first regionals to have a lo cost operation and other irports have now caught up. Slightly harder times were to be expected.
What is the financial cost of Ryanair, is there a deal for them to increase services and if so does this apply to the other operators.
If so it is still a bussiness and needs to make a realistic return with profits. It is not all about passenger numbers.
NEMA has the 2 biggest low cost carriers in Europe with bases at the airport.. That is not bad is it.
In addition if the passenger flights are not making alot of money for the airport there are always all those lovely freight flights which most lo cost airports do not have to fall back on.
Birmingham had a stagnant/reduction for over 12 months and recovered this summer. If you read the forum on Manchester also had a similar period.
There are already several new routes next year to destination not served opening new markets and not just ah another Malaga and Alicante flight.
Centre cities
What is the financial cost of Ryanair, is there a deal for them to increase services and if so does this apply to the other operators.
If so it is still a bussiness and needs to make a realistic return with profits. It is not all about passenger numbers.
NEMA has the 2 biggest low cost carriers in Europe with bases at the airport.. That is not bad is it.
In addition if the passenger flights are not making alot of money for the airport there are always all those lovely freight flights which most lo cost airports do not have to fall back on.
Birmingham had a stagnant/reduction for over 12 months and recovered this summer. If you read the forum on Manchester also had a similar period.
There are already several new routes next year to destination not served opening new markets and not just ah another Malaga and Alicante flight.
Centre cities
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egnxema,
ref the delays showing on the screen, its the airport info desk who put them up!
however i did disagree with you on that one i always find daily that if we have a flight delayed even by 5 mins it shows delayed but when u2/fr have a delay it shows expected!!! - that annoys me!!
ref the delays showing on the screen, its the airport info desk who put them up!
however i did disagree with you on that one i always find daily that if we have a flight delayed even by 5 mins it shows delayed but when u2/fr have a delay it shows expected!!! - that annoys me!!
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I was amazed when first Easyjet then BMIbaby both withdrew their BCN flights. Apparently neither could retain good daytime slots at BCN; seems a bit strange when Jet2 has managed to retain their afternoon slots?
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Hi
I am so glad other people have noticed the delayed wording on screens, this has been happening now for at least 2 years, even my own dad noticed this, soon as an EZY flight or FR flight is delayed, it is straight on there,showing delayed, but WW or BD never gets this ???? WHY ?
Also the same sometimes though for BY, Do i spot some favourtism at the Airport ?
Take care all
Mike
I am so glad other people have noticed the delayed wording on screens, this has been happening now for at least 2 years, even my own dad noticed this, soon as an EZY flight or FR flight is delayed, it is straight on there,showing delayed, but WW or BD never gets this ???? WHY ?
Also the same sometimes though for BY, Do i spot some favourtism at the Airport ?
Take care all
Mike
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Mike....
Do you spot some favouritism!?
The place sinks of favouritism - nothing official of course.
Just that NEMA Daddy and bmimummy have been in bed together for years. A contented old couple, never wishing to upset each other, but not doing anything exciting either. Suddenly the neighbour's kid grows up (GO) and our oldies decide to rub a few things together and see what they can slot in where and all of a sudden bmibaby is born. Baby grows, as they do, and gets board at home, so goes looking for fun elsewhere. Meantime, NEMA Daddy and bmimummy have aged, become even more wringled and shrivveled a bit and settle down to quiet cups of tea in front of the fire.
Now tell me which of the above is not true?
Do you spot some favouritism!?
The place sinks of favouritism - nothing official of course.
Just that NEMA Daddy and bmimummy have been in bed together for years. A contented old couple, never wishing to upset each other, but not doing anything exciting either. Suddenly the neighbour's kid grows up (GO) and our oldies decide to rub a few things together and see what they can slot in where and all of a sudden bmibaby is born. Baby grows, as they do, and gets board at home, so goes looking for fun elsewhere. Meantime, NEMA Daddy and bmimummy have aged, become even more wringled and shrivveled a bit and settle down to quiet cups of tea in front of the fire.
Now tell me which of the above is not true?
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The information on the departure & arrival screens is inputed, as is the case at quite a few airports, by the CSAs at the information desk. This is filled in when reports are sent to the desk by the handling agents who provide the information, so bmi might for example, provide more thorough & frequent info, whilst Servisair might not.
It will be interesting to see whether Ryanair will be basing any additional aircraft in 2006, and now that the Boeing strike appears to have been sorted, whether any other bases will expand?
It will be interesting to see whether Ryanair will be basing any additional aircraft in 2006, and now that the Boeing strike appears to have been sorted, whether any other bases will expand?
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It will be interesting to see whether Ryanair will be basing any additional aircraft in 2006, and now that the Boeing strike appears to have been sorted, whether any other bases will expand?
Someone at the airport was talking about noise issues on the radio, and said that these new aircraft willl be less noisy than the models used currently i.e the 732s! Something along those lines anyway.
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Impounded Viking MD-80
I heard that a Viking MD-80 would have been impounded at EMA for Air Scandic dues. Was that only tempo, or is it still there? Reg pls, if it is.
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The impounded MD-83 is flying again, as the two MD-83s that were based at EMA operating for Air Scandic,
TF-JXC (JetX) and SE-RDH (Viking),
are now flying again (they have been for quite a while since Air Scandic went into Recievership). The SCY code is being used for some flights, and VIK for others. They are both are still regulars at the Airport.
Cheers,
TF-JXC (JetX) and SE-RDH (Viking),
are now flying again (they have been for quite a while since Air Scandic went into Recievership). The SCY code is being used for some flights, and VIK for others. They are both are still regulars at the Airport.
Cheers,
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Hi Guy's
Well with the good news of FR coming to EMA, Does anyone have any idea when they will recruit for crew etc....
I have heard that cabin crew have to pay for there own training about £2000.00, if this is true surely not many people apply ?
Will they advertise locally in the papers like the Derby evening telegraph, notts post or Leics Mercury ?
Is any more good news coming to EMA, like a nice new long haul carrier ? This would be nice
Take care all
Mike
Well with the good news of FR coming to EMA, Does anyone have any idea when they will recruit for crew etc....
I have heard that cabin crew have to pay for there own training about £2000.00, if this is true surely not many people apply ?
Will they advertise locally in the papers like the Derby evening telegraph, notts post or Leics Mercury ?
Is any more good news coming to EMA, like a nice new long haul carrier ? This would be nice
Take care all
Mike
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Easyjet second EMA based A319 arrived in the early hours of this morning. However, it wasn't a factory fresh example as expected, it was a not-so-new example which positioned up from Stansted
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Easyjet second EMA based A319 arrived in the early hours of this morning. However, it wasn't a factory fresh example as expected, it was a not-so-new example which positioned up from Stansted
