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Old 12th Aug 2005, 01:24
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Read my post!
BA used to have a VERY good business service to "Europe" AMS,CDG FRA BRU.......etc,etc with B737 equipment. They now offer a "degraded" service at a [in real terms] higher cost. The "Passenger" in the NorthWest has two choices.
1. Fly BA, either a "small" a/c or via LHR
2. Fly Another Carrier.
If the Airline cannot fill its a/c without Shuttles, perhaps it should/could Diversify to the Regions.
An example. BA did a LGW-MAN-Islamabad-MAN-LGW. PIA [PK] started in competition.....BA "pulled out"....PIA now have [I think] 28 flights through MAN.
BAW also had a LGW-MAN-MIA-MAN-LGW Service [to fly from MAN was a very hefty premium] Virgin [and Charters now do 30+ per week]
No, I haven't got shares in BA. I work in ATC, and have been at MAN since 1970, so I have seen a few changes.
So, At the end of the day BA dont have
to fly from Manchester to where-ever
because the shuttle feeds from all
corners.
How many Cork pax will transit through LHR? or Zurich pax or oh dear Amsterdam pax.........They go to another Airline.
I could go on, but I'm not too keen on brick walls..
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 03:03
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your best bet is "help me GB-Won Kenobi, you're our only hope"

I've only gone through MAN once to get anywhere from ORK (ABZ) and even then I came back via LHR. The only thing saving BA's blushes at MAN is that bmi's strategy is even worse than theirs - how the hell can you build LH feeding from a budget carrier FFS?
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 08:59
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Interestingly, around a third of all pax on GB Airways flights in and out of Manchester are transferring to and from these flights to destinations such as JFK, ION, GLA, EDI, OSL and HEL being the most popular.....

I predict GB Airways will take on VXE, NCE, FCO and PSA.
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 10:02
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Chiglet

I have read your post(s).....see!!

Can you tell me how long BA kept
the two routes your on about?

I guess BA's ploy is to keep rising
the surcharges and make a profit
that way.

They must be doing something right
'cause they just announced an
increase in profits ....or am I wrong?

Pakistan and Virgin are doing well
with there monopoly routes but that
will happen when theres no competition.

You cant 'make' an airline see sense
- only profit counts.
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 11:20
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"I predict GB Airways will take on VXE, NCE, FCO and PSA"

I would not hold out much hope.
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 14:01
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RE - BA Downsize

Click on the link ... it says it all ......

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/899862/L/
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 14:18
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I just can;t help smiling to myself when I think how MAplc used to be so subservient to BA and now BA have come along and kneed them in the nuts!

Still, hopefully this will open some slots up for someone else..!

I think the Jet2 photo looks good, I always liked red!
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 14:35
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i think its a shame how manchester has gone nearly all low cost
its going like liverpool, luton instead of easyjet its jet2
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 14:41
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You can't have been to Manchester recently then, bozzy.
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 14:57
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i always go to the viewing point about every couple of weeks.

yeah that was a stupid comment (what i made) i meant its gettin to a point that all you see is jet2
manchester needs some more big airliners comin in some more jumbos a340s etc i thought manny would be massive in years to come but it seems to be going the low cost carrier way.
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 20:25
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Since GB Airways have commenced MAN op's (and BACX having downsized to 50 seat op's) I have always said that GB should have routes such as.......

FCO - dash 8 or erj dont have the range
NCE - Apparently is very popular route and difficult to get seats
on BA at present
VCE and possibly PSA.

All these routes fall into the remitt of GB Airways' route network, dont you think?

As a travel agent (until 31st Aug) i find it very difficult to find BCN flights these days considering three airlines did the route this time last year. Instead i send clients from LPL on EZY! Again BCN would fit nicely into the GB Network.

Start at GB on the 12th sept so to have these destinations would be fantastic especially as these would allow for three sector days (due to relatively short flight times) and i think this could equal stopovers!
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 21:22
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Were are GB going to get the extra aircraft from, the 2nd arrives in October but is earmarked for extra services and new routes.
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Old 12th Aug 2005, 22:54
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Not saying that they will do that immediately but i think it will be a possibility once new aicraft arrive. But hey, who knows. The last year has seen GB diversifying and operating new routes away from the Iberian peninsular/western med and Innsbruck is a new one for this winter albei from LGW.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 02:13
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Look out for some terminal moves for certain airlines this autumn. The moves will apparently involve long hul airlnes moving from T2 to T3 primarily.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 10:58
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I wonder what exec lounge the airlines will use as the only exec lounge in T3 is a BA lounge for BA/Oneworld card holders/business/first pax? The whole of T3 is 100% ba/oneworld based.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 11:11
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I am sure if BA are offered the right price they will open their facilities to anyone who wants to pay! The amount of premium trafic currently using T3 is pretty low currently, and also the BA lounge is pretty big, so could easily be patitioned.

T3 is set to undergo some big changes. Obviously MAplc recognise that expansion can really only feasibly occur at T2 and T3 so I would suggest that T3's days of being a BA bastion are possibly numbered. Watch this space I would say!
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 12:53
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does manplc or ba own t3. did emirates use t3 along time ago.

and dont ya think its a bad idea having checkin desks at the train station, i told somebody you have to check in at the station because they were flyin with aae and they just looked at me like i was an idiot, they had a long walk there and back to the station because they didnt listen to me. they wasnt happy. i cant see that working
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 12:59
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Well if faced woth severe congestion at T1 or relieveing it somewhat by using some new check in desks at The Stationm, I tend to think it is a good idea. I have heard that Global Spirit will also be using it for check-in, though don;t know if that is confirmed as yet.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 13:04
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yeah i can understand that but you wouldnt think of goin to a train station to check in
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 14:19
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You don;t have to think about it at all, you go where the monitors tell yu to go to check in!
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