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Slots?
From what I heard yesterday from a senior executive in the industry related to this project, money and AOC are the issue. I suppose the former is the most important factor in setting up an airline. I guess slots are a long way down the list.
I wouldn't hold yer breath on this one...
From what I heard yesterday from a senior executive in the industry related to this project, money and AOC are the issue. I suppose the former is the most important factor in setting up an airline. I guess slots are a long way down the list.
I wouldn't hold yer breath on this one...
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According to last weeks TTG a man airposrt spokesperon suggested they had not even applied for slots let alone get any granted !
There was also a legal wrangle on the horizon (pardon the pun) due to the name still being registered to another major chain.
Dont hold your breath !
According to last weeks TTG a man airposrt spokesperon suggested they had not even applied for slots let alone get any granted !
There was also a legal wrangle on the horizon (pardon the pun) due to the name still being registered to another major chain.
Dont hold your breath !
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Anyone know who the "well known industry figure" is that is allegedly behind this. The use of a dormant but well known brand (possibly still belonging to someone else), potential lack of funds and impossibly late launch brings one not that well known figure to my mind.
I fear that Air Berlin may have already decided that the Manchester operation is not worth it.
AB sent me their newsletter yesterday, confirming winter flights are now bookable - but you can't book on any routes out of MAN beyond the end of October.
Same for Southampton / Paderborn.
Could be that not all the routes are released yet, but the STN operation is all bookable, so it doesn't look good.
AB sent me their newsletter yesterday, confirming winter flights are now bookable - but you can't book on any routes out of MAN beyond the end of October.
Same for Southampton / Paderborn.
Could be that not all the routes are released yet, but the STN operation is all bookable, so it doesn't look good.
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I have heard a rumour that Vueling may be starting a Manchester to Bilbao daily service soon. Is this true?
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It appears that MAN is not necessarily 'booming'....why the stagnation? No new announcements for ages.....!What happened to all those exciting new routes' we were promised in that Manchester Evening News article with the Route Development manager?
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M.E.N article was a poor piece of journolism. What was being said was the '' 5 year plan'' , in other words the Airports wish list ! The Journo wrote the article as if it was all going to happen.
Meanwhile it's all hands to the pump to stem the Air Berlin fiasco.
Latest rumour ... Champagne Air to Le Harve with a Metroliner I kid you not !
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Meanwhile it's all hands to the pump to stem the Air Berlin fiasco.
Latest rumour ... Champagne Air to Le Harve with a Metroliner I kid you not !
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i go back to my point from ages ago that noone wants to travel from Berlin to Manchester at 4.30am!!
i thought paderborn was doing pretty well, according to pax figures i have seen....
and i agree woth the air berlin to palma suggestion.....as i also before, manchester may aswell have an hourly ****tle to palma or malaga every day!
i thought paderborn was doing pretty well, according to pax figures i have seen....
and i agree woth the air berlin to palma suggestion.....as i also before, manchester may aswell have an hourly ****tle to palma or malaga every day!
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From what I remember of the R2 debate, wasn’t 2005 the year MAN was supposed to hit 30 million passengers?
Where did it all go wrong?
- proper competition and consumer choice in the North (at last) from LPL, LBA and now DSA
- the failure of grasp the low-cost market quickly enough and get a dominant player on-board before the market in the NW became two crowded. The 2 biggest and best players are 20 miles down the road while WW, AB, J2 and the gang fail to make an impression. AB are going by the looks of it and J2 are wondering why they bothered.
- the fallout from 9/11 and the demise of the whole concept of 2nd tier hubs in Europe (Sabena, Swiss etc)
- bmi’s long-haul venture came too soon and has only served to reinforce the view that there’s not much money to made in LH ops out of MAN (or there’s a lot more money to be made at LHR).
And LGW still handling nearly 11 million more passengers on single runway ops.
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Where did it all go wrong?
- proper competition and consumer choice in the North (at last) from LPL, LBA and now DSA
- the failure of grasp the low-cost market quickly enough and get a dominant player on-board before the market in the NW became two crowded. The 2 biggest and best players are 20 miles down the road while WW, AB, J2 and the gang fail to make an impression. AB are going by the looks of it and J2 are wondering why they bothered.
- the fallout from 9/11 and the demise of the whole concept of 2nd tier hubs in Europe (Sabena, Swiss etc)
- bmi’s long-haul venture came too soon and has only served to reinforce the view that there’s not much money to made in LH ops out of MAN (or there’s a lot more money to be made at LHR).
And LGW still handling nearly 11 million more passengers on single runway ops.
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Vuelo,
[Yet] AGAIN, I repeat. "Any early arrival at MAN from 'Europe' is an Early Start ".....From Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen...Then Amsterdam, Paris....Oh dear BST rears its head [again].
Loco,
Yup EZY and RYR are doing well,[and good luck to them]. However, when I finished work this AM, Manch was 1435 movements UP on last May [Approx 7pc]. WW and J2 are doing OK. As to BMI LHR....say no more
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[Yet] AGAIN, I repeat. "Any early arrival at MAN from 'Europe' is an Early Start ".....From Berlin, Stockholm, Copenhagen...Then Amsterdam, Paris....Oh dear BST rears its head [again].
Loco,
Yup EZY and RYR are doing well,[and good luck to them]. However, when I finished work this AM, Manch was 1435 movements UP on last May [Approx 7pc]. WW and J2 are doing OK. As to BMI LHR....say no more
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Vueleo,
Watch my lips......
IF you are "inbound" UK, Man EDI NEW, GLA LHR, STN , from "Europe" you have to have "an Early Start".
EZY and RYR START their journeys from LPL. Now imagine [if you can] that the EZY/RYR flights originated in ......Bolognia, Riga, or Heaven forbid "East[tern[ Germany to arrive at LPL at 0700/0800. Just what checkin time would they have
watp,iktch
Watch my lips......
IF you are "inbound" UK, Man EDI NEW, GLA LHR, STN , from "Europe" you have to have "an Early Start".
EZY and RYR START their journeys from LPL. Now imagine [if you can] that the EZY/RYR flights originated in ......Bolognia, Riga, or Heaven forbid "East[tern[ Germany to arrive at LPL at 0700/0800. Just what checkin time would they have
watp,iktch