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Picked this up from the LBA spotters site:
An interesting article on BBC1 about Sheffield
Airport. Peel Holdings, who also own Finningley, during the last 2 years four operators have approached the airport about starting scheduled services and have been refused for various reasons by the airport. Peel have also submitted a planning application to SHORTEN the runway.
Apparently if Peel can prove the airfield is not profitable they have an option to buy the land for £1.00 at the end of 2007 for conversion to a business park, which no doubt would net them a fortune. Already some of the terminal has been converted to office space. A local pilot who has been campaigning to promote the airport has been given notice to remove his aircraft next January. They also interviewed local councillors who accused Peel of running down the airport so they can promote Finningley.
An interesting article on BBC1 about Sheffield
Airport. Peel Holdings, who also own Finningley, during the last 2 years four operators have approached the airport about starting scheduled services and have been refused for various reasons by the airport. Peel have also submitted a planning application to SHORTEN the runway.
Apparently if Peel can prove the airfield is not profitable they have an option to buy the land for £1.00 at the end of 2007 for conversion to a business park, which no doubt would net them a fortune. Already some of the terminal has been converted to office space. A local pilot who has been campaigning to promote the airport has been given notice to remove his aircraft next January. They also interviewed local councillors who accused Peel of running down the airport so they can promote Finningley.
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Hi GJK22
Just wondering what level of ATC cover will be in place then.
Ta
Now for the really exciting bit. The airfield will be open to private flights from 3rd Jan 2005. The airfield will at that stage be unlicensed and without RFFS. The airfield will have ATC cover however.
Ta
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The word on the street that it will be a FISO service at Sheffield, not ATC service.
The Doncaster/Robin Hood ATZ was notamed as active from today (I think), active daylight hours only initially (that's from 10am to 2pm in Yorkshire
), callsign "Doncaster by eck Tower".
The Doncaster/Robin Hood ATZ was notamed as active from today (I think), active daylight hours only initially (that's from 10am to 2pm in Yorkshire
), callsign "Doncaster by eck Tower".
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I think it will have to be licensed for any service even air/ground.
I've also heard the two atco's will be self training, and not providing a service, from january until the airport goes into full service in march and then providing full tower and approach procedural services.
I've also heard the two atco's will be self training, and not providing a service, from january until the airport goes into full service in march and then providing full tower and approach procedural services.
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Changing the subject 'how will the local population or the owners take to Flying Training Organisations wanting to 'muscle in on the facilities' and keep the ATC busy with their eternal circuits and ILS approaches not to mention the odd night flying? Or will the owners want them? There is a world of difference between the big shiny jets dropping in over Bawtry or Lindholme with one approach and the noisy pistons droning around for ever in the sky. I have a vested interest in the answer of course. Any airfield that will accept 'Flying Trainers' is in my book looking to the future and to refuse them is shortsighted. We all have to train somewhere and it is getting more and more difficult.
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I believe they are saying there will be no based flying club but they will accept private aircraft movements! What exactly this means is still to be seen but my guess is if you own a B200 or a C550 and are going to do one approach, land and pay parking/handling fees then you're ok. Time will tell but Peel have invested a lot of money here and it's primarily and Airport so don't expect it to be too freindly to your avearge PPL holder.
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Not so Hooded.
There is a dedicated G/A building at the airport, next to the proposed FBO facility, which will handle all of the the non scheduled flights.
Whilst it's true that Peel seem to be only keen on one "Flying Training Organisation" being based at Robin Hood, they are encouraging as much G/A as capacity will permit, and make no secret of the fact that there may come a time when such movements may be severely restricted, but those who have made the commitment to establish and stay will have a unique opportunity.
Personally, I believe that that time is some time away, and those who get in now will be the ones who will reap the long term benefit.
As is often the case with UK businesses, it's a question of who has the balls to make a long term commitment - if this was the U.S., Peel would have been stampeded in the rush.
There is a dedicated G/A building at the airport, next to the proposed FBO facility, which will handle all of the the non scheduled flights.
Whilst it's true that Peel seem to be only keen on one "Flying Training Organisation" being based at Robin Hood, they are encouraging as much G/A as capacity will permit, and make no secret of the fact that there may come a time when such movements may be severely restricted, but those who have made the commitment to establish and stay will have a unique opportunity.
Personally, I believe that that time is some time away, and those who get in now will be the ones who will reap the long term benefit.
As is often the case with UK businesses, it's a question of who has the balls to make a long term commitment - if this was the U.S., Peel would have been stampeded in the rush.
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Thanks for clarifying that Niknak, I was told that there would be NO based flying club. If this is untrue then someone who went to a recent meeting with peel got the wrong end of the stick. I wonder if the future of Gamston is not too rosy now then? I know most local flying clubs/gliding clubs are very worried about future airspace expansion curtailing a lot of their activities. Time will tell but I think the place will be a success which will severely restrict private aviation in the future.
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I see light now. Many of us campaigners wondered about the motives of Lord Kirkham and Kevin MacDonald (of Polypipe),both of whom seriously funded opposition to Finningley.
I believe they are owners,or certainly have an interest in Gamston. Strangely they joined forces with Friends of the Earth,and others of that ilk. Self interest makes for odd bedfellows eh.
I just hope that Peel remember their friends and can I say enemies,in their future plans.
I believe they are owners,or certainly have an interest in Gamston. Strangely they joined forces with Friends of the Earth,and others of that ilk. Self interest makes for odd bedfellows eh.
I just hope that Peel remember their friends and can I say enemies,in their future plans.
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Terry - do you mean that you didn't know about their links with Gamston? They have ownership interests and aircraft based there. I too hope that Peel will remember their actions when they eventually want to move their aircraft to Finningley.
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Strong rumours re Virgin and an American airline interested in Finningley. Can anyone throw light on this please.
By the way,planes landing and taking off,from this Friday,testing lights etc,over 3 days.
By the way,planes landing and taking off,from this Friday,testing lights etc,over 3 days.
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New base for Virgin ?
We have strong rumours that Virgin and an American airline are interested in flying from Finningley,Doncaster. Can anyone throw more light on this please. Also aircraft are landing and taking off from Finningley from this Friday,for 3 days,testing lights etc.
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I presume you're talking Virgin Atlantic???
Would that really be a logical move for them? yes, they do have extra aircraft coming, but wouldn't they want somewhere which can sell from both ends, and it being a major airport/city etc? Why wouldn't they add to their MAN-Orlando service before Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield somewhere-in-the-UK with many names airport?????
Would that really be a logical move for them? yes, they do have extra aircraft coming, but wouldn't they want somewhere which can sell from both ends, and it being a major airport/city etc? Why wouldn't they add to their MAN-Orlando service before Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield somewhere-in-the-UK with many names airport?????
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new base for virgin ?
I said it was a strong rumour,but it is a fact that people from Virgin were in talks with Peel 2 weeks ago.
Coming from London,yo may not know,but Yorkshire people generally do not like making the trek over the pennines. It may not look far on the map,but it can be an arduous journey.
Coming from London,yo may not know,but Yorkshire people generally do not like making the trek over the pennines. It may not look far on the map,but it can be an arduous journey.
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I really dislike the phrase 'strong rumour'. The word 'strong' is useless, and implies that that particular rumour is more likely than others, which is total rubbish. IF Virgin go into DSA, I will be VERY VERY surprised, likewise with AA.
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NEW BASE FOR VIRGIN
With all due respect,I regard the rumour as "strong",because of it's very reliable source. I appreciate what you say about the semantics,but I would not put,what I would call "unreliable" rumours on the site. It would be quite silly and unproductive.