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Sorry...the ATR will operate flights for bmi to LCY from 1st November. I think it may well be a Atlantic Airways machine.
Anyone any ideas on Jet2's new routes for next summer??? Nice to see Ibiza is there already! I think that Almeria,Jersey, Newquay,Berlin, Budapest and Warsaw may make an appearance.
Anyone any ideas on Jet2's new routes for next summer??? Nice to see Ibiza is there already! I think that Almeria,Jersey, Newquay,Berlin, Budapest and Warsaw may make an appearance.
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A snippet for an article in Thursday's Yorkshire post idicates new routes are too be confirmed soon.
"He is expecting some competition from the new Robin Hood Airport at Finningley, which is close to Doncaster and Sheffield.
But he said: "We have no plans to go there. We like Leeds-Bradford Airport. We reckon to get people through to the departure lounge in 15 minutes from the time they come through the doors. It's going to be hard for a new operation to beat that."
He added that more new destinations for next summer would be announced soon, but he did not want to tell his rivals which they were"
We shall have to wait and see...
"He is expecting some competition from the new Robin Hood Airport at Finningley, which is close to Doncaster and Sheffield.
But he said: "We have no plans to go there. We like Leeds-Bradford Airport. We reckon to get people through to the departure lounge in 15 minutes from the time they come through the doors. It's going to be hard for a new operation to beat that."
He added that more new destinations for next summer would be announced soon, but he did not want to tell his rivals which they were"
We shall have to wait and see...
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The year ahead......
It is good to see Jet2 are still expanding from LBA. If they're to keep a hold of their little neche hub they'll have to ensure that all the gaps are filled to stop other operators from taking a foothold in the LBA loco sector. I just hope the airport can become more successful at attracting other scheduled and charter trafic.
At the moment it looks like the security screening move to the void area next to the food village is on hold. After all it isn't a money making scheme. LBA are now expected to quickly move ahead on expanding the profit making schemes, such as carparks and retail. The next phase of carparking will include upwards of 500 spaces in the longstay carpark, located in the area of Old White House Lane, in readyness for next summers expansion plans. (40-50 extra Jet2 departures a week)
I do think runway 27 is on its way out but I think LBA will leave expanding the apron untill the very last minute, in the interests of its coffers.
Leodis
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At the moment it looks like the security screening move to the void area next to the food village is on hold. After all it isn't a money making scheme. LBA are now expected to quickly move ahead on expanding the profit making schemes, such as carparks and retail. The next phase of carparking will include upwards of 500 spaces in the longstay carpark, located in the area of Old White House Lane, in readyness for next summers expansion plans. (40-50 extra Jet2 departures a week)
I do think runway 27 is on its way out but I think LBA will leave expanding the apron untill the very last minute, in the interests of its coffers.
Leodis
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Some things never change!!!
I have been "off line" for the past month and have just got back "on-line" today. Nice to see some things are still the same!
On the LBIA website under news on Sept 8th she tells the world about Page and Moy holidays offering 4 departures to Italy next year. I quote..."Italy is a very popular holiday destination and we are delighted to be able to offer the Yorkshire region more choice and an increasingly diverse range of holidays for summer 2005"
It's not Turkey, Greece or Cyprus is it? Or Croatia, Tunisia or Florida! No the new increasingly diverse range of destinations next summer are Zante and...erm...wait a minute...oh i know...the 757 bus goes to Otley!!!
GOD HELP US
By the way...TUI have pulled the Larnaca flight they took over from after Airtours dropped it! That means NO flights at all to Cyprus from LBA next year. Never mind eh...all the local airports which "complement" LBA ie DSA,MME,HUY,MAN etc etc all offer flights to BOTH LCA and PFO next summer.
Edited for using names. Altogether unacceptable and perhaps you should read my post below. PPRuNe Pop
On the LBIA website under news on Sept 8th she tells the world about Page and Moy holidays offering 4 departures to Italy next year. I quote..."Italy is a very popular holiday destination and we are delighted to be able to offer the Yorkshire region more choice and an increasingly diverse range of holidays for summer 2005"
It's not Turkey, Greece or Cyprus is it? Or Croatia, Tunisia or Florida! No the new increasingly diverse range of destinations next summer are Zante and...erm...wait a minute...oh i know...the 757 bus goes to Otley!!!
GOD HELP US
By the way...TUI have pulled the Larnaca flight they took over from after Airtours dropped it! That means NO flights at all to Cyprus from LBA next year. Never mind eh...all the local airports which "complement" LBA ie DSA,MME,HUY,MAN etc etc all offer flights to BOTH LCA and PFO next summer.
Edited for using names. Altogether unacceptable and perhaps you should read my post below. PPRuNe Pop
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I assume you missed missed all this fantastic marketing rubbish
Low cost airline Jet2.com took another step into Europe on the 1st September, as its first flight to Paris took off. It was berets all-round as staff and passengers celebrated the new route in style, with a party at Leeds Bradford airport boasting a typically French theme. A can-can girl and a musketeer were among those on show while passengers checked in for the new daily service. Entertainment was provided by ‘Pierre the Parisian street musician’, and flags and balloons decorated the check-in desk – all blue, white and red, of course!
I bet this took weeks to organise,still, I suppose it keeps the planks busy.
I thought LBA already had flights to Paris,have the marketing team looked at the timetables?
I assume you missed missed all this fantastic marketing rubbish
Low cost airline Jet2.com took another step into Europe on the 1st September, as its first flight to Paris took off. It was berets all-round as staff and passengers celebrated the new route in style, with a party at Leeds Bradford airport boasting a typically French theme. A can-can girl and a musketeer were among those on show while passengers checked in for the new daily service. Entertainment was provided by ‘Pierre the Parisian street musician’, and flags and balloons decorated the check-in desk – all blue, white and red, of course!
I bet this took weeks to organise,still, I suppose it keeps the planks busy.
I thought LBA already had flights to Paris,have the marketing team looked at the timetables?
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With all due respect, you can slate the new CDG flt allyou want but it's full all the time so there is obvoiusley a marketfor it, I personally didn't think itwas gonna do well at all but they've proved me wrong, I understand that there needs to be more destinations from LBA but ifthere creatingextra flts even to destinations already served then that's still a good thing,Look atthe AMS flts 2aday by JET2 and 3aday by KLM, there always full, pitty about the Belfast routes though.
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Quote "pity about the Belfast routes though" - can you elaborate? According to Mr Meeson, all routes out of BFS are performing well! Have heard through the grapevine that after the initial flourish BFS - LBA has reduced considerably in usage.
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What I meant was the LBA-BFS routes not the new routes from BFS I know they are doing well,
It only seems to be the weekend flts from LBA to BFS that seem to be full.
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It only seems to be the weekend flts from LBA to BFS that seem to be full.
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I don't think that Jet2 in Manchester will threaten the LBA operation.
At first I was surprised, but this could be a smart move, it establishes Jet2 as a Northern operator and their reputation for service is already well known in the North West. Although EZY and FR are at Liverpool, it keeps them out of direct competition.
Also I think BMI Baby may have a limited lifespan at Manchester, I can see some of their routes going mainline to feed the increasing longhaul destinations and the remainder could become easy pickings from Jet2.
Good luck to Jet2 in Leeds and Manchester I say.
At first I was surprised, but this could be a smart move, it establishes Jet2 as a Northern operator and their reputation for service is already well known in the North West. Although EZY and FR are at Liverpool, it keeps them out of direct competition.
Also I think BMI Baby may have a limited lifespan at Manchester, I can see some of their routes going mainline to feed the increasing longhaul destinations and the remainder could become easy pickings from Jet2.
Good luck to Jet2 in Leeds and Manchester I say.
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In an artical in the Manchester Evening News, PM suggested that the LBA base would be used to trial new services.
Although not yet announced officially, Budapest and Valencia look likely to be announced from LBA shortly, along with pehaps one or two other supprises!
Although not yet announced officially, Budapest and Valencia look likely to be announced from LBA shortly, along with pehaps one or two other supprises!
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The Leeds Jet2 operation is obviously a big money spinner for Dart / Channex judging by this statement released to the stock-market this morning:
There follows a Half-Year Trading update from the Group's Chairman and ChiefExecutive, Philip Meeson.
'Further to my Statement at the Annual General Meeting on 5 August, I am pleased to confirm that the Group continues to trade ahead of budget.I, therefore, expect pre-tax profits for the year ending 31 March 2005 to be materially ahead of current market expectations'.
The company also announced that it has acquired 2 further B737-300 ex-Lufthansa.
Dart Group shares, which have been motoring along in recent weeks, are up a further 23p (10%) in trade today. From a low 117p on 20th May the value of the company has more than doubled with the current price being 247p.
Mr Meeson also made the following comments to the Yorkshire Post yesterday.
Jet2 chief executive Philip Meeson made it clear that this latest announcement was part of a long-term expansion plan using the airline's Leeds Bradford base as a building block for future development. He said: "Our base here at Leeds Bradford is our home. It's where we started, it's where we're building a very successful low cost airline from, and it's where we will remain.
Across the Pennines it's an entirely separate operation, just like our Belfast base. The Manchester hub will have its own aircraft, crew and support staff but operationally we will use Leeds as our HQ. We have very little traffic coming east across the Pennines, so our base in Manchester will have a negligible impact on our sales from Leeds.
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http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/View...ticleID=863024
There follows a Half-Year Trading update from the Group's Chairman and ChiefExecutive, Philip Meeson.
'Further to my Statement at the Annual General Meeting on 5 August, I am pleased to confirm that the Group continues to trade ahead of budget.I, therefore, expect pre-tax profits for the year ending 31 March 2005 to be materially ahead of current market expectations'.
The company also announced that it has acquired 2 further B737-300 ex-Lufthansa.
Dart Group shares, which have been motoring along in recent weeks, are up a further 23p (10%) in trade today. From a low 117p on 20th May the value of the company has more than doubled with the current price being 247p.
Mr Meeson also made the following comments to the Yorkshire Post yesterday.
Jet2 chief executive Philip Meeson made it clear that this latest announcement was part of a long-term expansion plan using the airline's Leeds Bradford base as a building block for future development. He said: "Our base here at Leeds Bradford is our home. It's where we started, it's where we're building a very successful low cost airline from, and it's where we will remain.
Across the Pennines it's an entirely separate operation, just like our Belfast base. The Manchester hub will have its own aircraft, crew and support staff but operationally we will use Leeds as our HQ. We have very little traffic coming east across the Pennines, so our base in Manchester will have a negligible impact on our sales from Leeds.
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http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/View...ticleID=863024
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How can LBA expand
Given the success of the Jet2.com base at LBA, they would almost certainly be quite willing to invest significantly more into the LBA HQs. The airline, as 682 AMSL pointed out is definately onto a 'money spinner' here at Leeds.
So what can be done to facilitate growth here?
As it stands 500 more carpark spaces are to be built in readiness for next summer.
The expansion of the apron area is in the final planning stages. This will probably be done in stages and is said to include at least six new stands.
What other areas can be exploited to facilitate additional capasity?
It is understood that the airport is in the early stages of planning a multistory carpark in the lower part of the shortstay carpark.
The airport has very few retail outlets at the moment. The passenger numbers area begining to reaching a level to sustain additional 'high street' names, thus enabling increased revinue to fund additional expansions.
The terminal has seen better days. If a new terminal is out of the question, I would like to see a completely separate arrivals area.
A new arrivals area would open up the present terminal space for extra check-in and retail units. This could be done without any significant disruption and it would also see the end of the tent structure. This would make the airport look less knee-jerk. A new arrivals facility coupled with a peer between stands 9-12 would also allow for extra airbridges.
Any thoughts on the 'Leeds Expansion'????
So what can be done to facilitate growth here?
As it stands 500 more carpark spaces are to be built in readiness for next summer.
The expansion of the apron area is in the final planning stages. This will probably be done in stages and is said to include at least six new stands.
What other areas can be exploited to facilitate additional capasity?
It is understood that the airport is in the early stages of planning a multistory carpark in the lower part of the shortstay carpark.
The airport has very few retail outlets at the moment. The passenger numbers area begining to reaching a level to sustain additional 'high street' names, thus enabling increased revinue to fund additional expansions.
The terminal has seen better days. If a new terminal is out of the question, I would like to see a completely separate arrivals area.
A new arrivals area would open up the present terminal space for extra check-in and retail units. This could be done without any significant disruption and it would also see the end of the tent structure. This would make the airport look less knee-jerk. A new arrivals facility coupled with a peer between stands 9-12 would also allow for extra airbridges.
Any thoughts on the 'Leeds Expansion'????
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A new arrivals facility coupled with a peer between stands 9-12 would also allow for extra airbridges.
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Could the setting up of a Manchester base be a tactical move related to start-up of flights from Doncaster/Sheffield? I assume that Jet2 have studied the catchment area for LBA and found that few travellers come across the Pennines from Greater Man.(as mentioned above) but I bet the LBA catchment area spreads well into South and East Yorkshire. DSA is bound to capture alot of this traffic and hence Jet2's business at LBA could be heavily eroded. Therefore they're setting up a base at MAN to become less reliant on LBA.
I flew from LBA several times between 2000 and 2002 and the major problem(even today) imo are the transport links. The journey to the airport from most directions is painful. I know people in parts of West Yorkshire who can get to MAN quicker than LBA solely due to the poor road links. In an area of the UK surrounded by other airports(with far superior road access), this will always limit the demand/appeal at LBA.
I flew from LBA several times between 2000 and 2002 and the major problem(even today) imo are the transport links. The journey to the airport from most directions is painful. I know people in parts of West Yorkshire who can get to MAN quicker than LBA solely due to the poor road links. In an area of the UK surrounded by other airports(with far superior road access), this will always limit the demand/appeal at LBA.
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Does anyone know what type of aircraft colud fly direct to New York from LBA fully loaded? Has anyone flown this route before with a charter? Could a 767-200 or 300 do it for example?
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Does anyone know what type of aircraft colud fly direct to New York from LBA fully loaded?
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When you say fully loaded, do mean maximum take off weight for that type i.e with max passengers/baggage/cargo etc pluis fuel.
Then I fear nothing could do that ex LBA.
However, full passenger loads which are often not the max load in charter config (eg Continental 757s with 160/170 pax etc not the usual 235 pax) then you could be looking at Boeing 757, Boeing 767-200/300, Airbus 330-200, Boeing 737-700, Airbus 300/310.
Even a Boeing 747-200 has made it to Toronto direct with 489 pax, baggage, a reasonable amount of freight including a car!.
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Does anyone know what type of aircraft colud fly direct to New York from LBA fully loaded?
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When you say fully loaded, do mean maximum take off weight for that type i.e with max passengers/baggage/cargo etc pluis fuel.
Then I fear nothing could do that ex LBA.
However, full passenger loads which are often not the max load in charter config (eg Continental 757s with 160/170 pax etc not the usual 235 pax) then you could be looking at Boeing 757, Boeing 767-200/300, Airbus 330-200, Boeing 737-700, Airbus 300/310.
Even a Boeing 747-200 has made it to Toronto direct with 489 pax, baggage, a reasonable amount of freight including a car!.