When do TUI'S 735's Arrive At Coventry?
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Sorry to butt in !! Reading your threads entices me to invite you for Tea and Biscuits at The Glengary, where facts may be discussed.:
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A few problems getting a fourth aircraft at the moment with some schedule changes:
Britannia sending a B757 to operate the Naples Thursday morning. G-BYAU arrives at 07:30 TOM209P. This will depart Thursday at 15:40 to Gatwick.
SE-RCS, B733 of FlyMe Sweden, will arrive at 17:00 on Thursday to operate the Friday morning Naples at 06:00
The new Pisa service re-timed to depart at 17:45 (18:20 Sunday)
The Marseille service has been re-timed to depart at 22:40 (19:30 Saturday)and returning at 03:25 (00:15 Sunday mornings)
This is valid until 1st June.
Jon
Britannia sending a B757 to operate the Naples Thursday morning. G-BYAU arrives at 07:30 TOM209P. This will depart Thursday at 15:40 to Gatwick.
SE-RCS, B733 of FlyMe Sweden, will arrive at 17:00 on Thursday to operate the Friday morning Naples at 06:00
The new Pisa service re-timed to depart at 17:45 (18:20 Sunday)
The Marseille service has been re-timed to depart at 22:40 (19:30 Saturday)and returning at 03:25 (00:15 Sunday mornings)
This is valid until 1st June.
Jon
Last edited by jon01; 20th May 2004 at 13:31.
Just a numbered other
A while back, BAW954 said:
I wonder which 737 flying manual this technique is culled from?
In answer to the question: 'why is a rolling take-off preferred in respect of the engine' posed to CFM, the reply was:
Inlet vortices is common cause (sic, he is a Frenchman)of FOD ingestion on ground and created when high thrust and no speed (head wind or airspeed).
Vortex strength increases at high thrust, low airspeed
For example:
- Thrust advance for taxy breakaway from stop
- Thrust advance for TakeOff
- Reverse Thrust at low airspeed
- 180 degree turn on runway
- Power assurance runs
The vortex is destroyed by Airspeed and/or Headwind
Recommendations
Avoid engine overhang of unprepared surface
Minimize
- Breakaway and taxi thrust (Less than 40% N1, if possible), 10 knots airspeed/headwind will destroy vortices formed up to 40% N1
- Thrust assist from outboard engine in 180 degree turn
Rolling TakeOff, if possible, 30 knots airspeed will destroy vortices
formed at typical TakeOff thrust settings
Reverse thrust
- During taxi only on emergency
- Minimize on contaminated runway
This is the reason of rolling take off recommendations,... when possible. Hoping fulfil your query, nevertheless do not hesitate to contact me for any questions regarding CFM56 engines operations... and Congratulations Operating CFM56 Engines!!!
Best regards,
Capt. Max MOUTOUSSAMY
CFM Flight Ops Support Manager
Out of interest, are the 735 engines still rated at 18.5K as they were with their former users?
when 05 is in use they go right to the end. Stop for a while, bring the engines up. Then put full power on, wait for 5 seconds or so, then release the brakes to gain that essential speed (understable)
In answer to the question: 'why is a rolling take-off preferred in respect of the engine' posed to CFM, the reply was:
Inlet vortices is common cause (sic, he is a Frenchman)of FOD ingestion on ground and created when high thrust and no speed (head wind or airspeed).
Vortex strength increases at high thrust, low airspeed
For example:
- Thrust advance for taxy breakaway from stop
- Thrust advance for TakeOff
- Reverse Thrust at low airspeed
- 180 degree turn on runway
- Power assurance runs
The vortex is destroyed by Airspeed and/or Headwind
Recommendations
Avoid engine overhang of unprepared surface
Minimize
- Breakaway and taxi thrust (Less than 40% N1, if possible), 10 knots airspeed/headwind will destroy vortices formed up to 40% N1
- Thrust assist from outboard engine in 180 degree turn
Rolling TakeOff, if possible, 30 knots airspeed will destroy vortices
formed at typical TakeOff thrust settings
Reverse thrust
- During taxi only on emergency
- Minimize on contaminated runway
This is the reason of rolling take off recommendations,... when possible. Hoping fulfil your query, nevertheless do not hesitate to contact me for any questions regarding CFM56 engines operations... and Congratulations Operating CFM56 Engines!!!
Best regards,
Capt. Max MOUTOUSSAMY
CFM Flight Ops Support Manager
Out of interest, are the 735 engines still rated at 18.5K as they were with their former users?
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Coventry Airport Wins Courtcase
Good news for all fans 
! from www.thomsonfly.com I think i'll go book my flights now 
Fight is won for Flights to the sun!
25.05.2004
Coventry Airport announced today that it has won its High Court case against Warwick District Council. Mrs Justice Gloster gave her judgment following a two day High Court hearing and ordered that the injunction proceedings brought by Warwick District Council regarding the Airport's use of its Interim Passenger Facilities be struck out.
Mrs Justice Gloster ruled that there would be no reasonable prospect of a court granting an injunction and further ruled that the action taken by Warwick District Council amounted to an abuse of legal proceedings.
Speaking after the High Court Judgment, Coventry Airport's Managing Director, Bill Savage said, "We are delighted that the High Court has thrown out Mr Archer's claims. We have stated all along that we wish to work with the Local Planning Authority, but Mr Archer has sought to take action that frustrated every attempt we tried to make. His action has undoubtedly cost the tax payers of Warwick District Council hundreds of thousands of pounds and I feel sorry for those tax payers that will inevitably face higher bills."
”Throughout this legal case Coventry Airport has assured us that the Interim Passenger facility was within planning regulations,” said Alex Hunter, Chief Commercial Officer, Thomsonfly.com “ The ruling this morning has vindicated the airport and we’re delighted that this now gives us a clear and long term future from Coventry Airport. Today’s news will give our present and future customers the confidence to book with us and take advantage of our low fare flights from their local airport.”
To celebrate the news Thomsonfly.com is offering 20,000 half price seats to people who book flights to any of the 11 destinations before 2nd June. With one way prices to Marseille from as little as £15.50 and Malaga from just £33.50 including taxes and charges.
There has never been a better time to get away from your local airport at Coventry. This summer Thomsonfly.com will be flying to Jersey, Marseille, Nice, Palma, Valencia, Malaga, Naples, Rome, Venice, Pisa and from 11th June Ibiza and will shortly be announcing its winter schedule which will feature some exciting new destinations.
With low fare flights making a short break or a longer holiday both practical and affordable, Thomsonfly.com is carrying over 10,000 people through Coventry Airport over the coming Bank Holiday weekend, testimony to how popular the new services have already become with local people. Already more than 50,000 have travelled with the airline.
Book now to take advantage of a half price seat or, at these prices, take the whole family!
To book go to www.thomsonfly.com or call our friendly sales team on 0870 1900 737.
Adam
! from www.thomsonfly.com I think i'll go book my flights now Fight is won for Flights to the sun!
25.05.2004
Coventry Airport announced today that it has won its High Court case against Warwick District Council. Mrs Justice Gloster gave her judgment following a two day High Court hearing and ordered that the injunction proceedings brought by Warwick District Council regarding the Airport's use of its Interim Passenger Facilities be struck out.
Mrs Justice Gloster ruled that there would be no reasonable prospect of a court granting an injunction and further ruled that the action taken by Warwick District Council amounted to an abuse of legal proceedings.
Speaking after the High Court Judgment, Coventry Airport's Managing Director, Bill Savage said, "We are delighted that the High Court has thrown out Mr Archer's claims. We have stated all along that we wish to work with the Local Planning Authority, but Mr Archer has sought to take action that frustrated every attempt we tried to make. His action has undoubtedly cost the tax payers of Warwick District Council hundreds of thousands of pounds and I feel sorry for those tax payers that will inevitably face higher bills."
”Throughout this legal case Coventry Airport has assured us that the Interim Passenger facility was within planning regulations,” said Alex Hunter, Chief Commercial Officer, Thomsonfly.com “ The ruling this morning has vindicated the airport and we’re delighted that this now gives us a clear and long term future from Coventry Airport. Today’s news will give our present and future customers the confidence to book with us and take advantage of our low fare flights from their local airport.”
To celebrate the news Thomsonfly.com is offering 20,000 half price seats to people who book flights to any of the 11 destinations before 2nd June. With one way prices to Marseille from as little as £15.50 and Malaga from just £33.50 including taxes and charges.
There has never been a better time to get away from your local airport at Coventry. This summer Thomsonfly.com will be flying to Jersey, Marseille, Nice, Palma, Valencia, Malaga, Naples, Rome, Venice, Pisa and from 11th June Ibiza and will shortly be announcing its winter schedule which will feature some exciting new destinations.
With low fare flights making a short break or a longer holiday both practical and affordable, Thomsonfly.com is carrying over 10,000 people through Coventry Airport over the coming Bank Holiday weekend, testimony to how popular the new services have already become with local people. Already more than 50,000 have travelled with the airline.
Book now to take advantage of a half price seat or, at these prices, take the whole family!
To book go to www.thomsonfly.com or call our friendly sales team on 0870 1900 737.
Adam
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I was up there today. I take it 05 is facing the A45, as the TUI's were taking off from the Bagington end towards the A45
Gosh! they are very quiet!
Standing outside my car by the Bagington runway end, initial deep rumbling, then silence.
Gosh! they are very quiet!
Standing outside my car by the Bagington runway end, initial deep rumbling, then silence.
