When do TUI'S 735's Arrive At Coventry?
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ILS nope and yes, it been calibrated about 5 times the last few months, but
still problems with it.
Chaos caused by what was always thought would be the problem, Britannia
aircraft have always been one of the operators that have never liked to be routed
outside controlled airspace, they don't do the Birmingham-Brecon procedure
and even when normally positioning to other airports not connected as well to
the airways system, they always route the airways way (i.e places like
Bristol etc) this goes for not just the flights operating out of brum but
all other airfields.
So there has been new procedures and pressure to keep these aircraft in
controlled airspace as much as possible, rather than the usual get em down
quick and straight into cov, they now route past hon and sequenced from
there. Some days this will not pose as much as a problem depending upon
runways in use at egbb and egbe. But other days will cause absolute chaos,
Cov have no secondary radar so are unable to see height read outs of any
aircraft, so they're unable to be given traffic that maybe higher than brums,
until it is clean laterally as they cant see if they can step it down on
top, hence the rather excessive routing it received the other day, and as
someone pointed out weaving around warks and west midlands in and out of
brum traffic was precisely what it did!!! Before still having to leave
controlled airspace east of cov to be vectored for runway 23...with loads of
unknowns buzzing around that bit of airspace and from my experience some of
the GA routing along there (many route dty sapco lic or similar routing) are
working either cov, east midlands or brum, or none. So cov have no way of
knowing what that traffic is doing...and TCAS doesn't see non-squawking
traffic!! Its an accident waiting to happen, and putting a lot of pressure
on Controllers to risk there licence's by trying to provide a Radar service
outside of controlled airspace.
I wouldn't fly on one of these planes even if it was free!
James
still problems with it.
Chaos caused by what was always thought would be the problem, Britannia
aircraft have always been one of the operators that have never liked to be routed
outside controlled airspace, they don't do the Birmingham-Brecon procedure
and even when normally positioning to other airports not connected as well to
the airways system, they always route the airways way (i.e places like
Bristol etc) this goes for not just the flights operating out of brum but
all other airfields.
So there has been new procedures and pressure to keep these aircraft in
controlled airspace as much as possible, rather than the usual get em down
quick and straight into cov, they now route past hon and sequenced from
there. Some days this will not pose as much as a problem depending upon
runways in use at egbb and egbe. But other days will cause absolute chaos,
Cov have no secondary radar so are unable to see height read outs of any
aircraft, so they're unable to be given traffic that maybe higher than brums,
until it is clean laterally as they cant see if they can step it down on
top, hence the rather excessive routing it received the other day, and as
someone pointed out weaving around warks and west midlands in and out of
brum traffic was precisely what it did!!! Before still having to leave
controlled airspace east of cov to be vectored for runway 23...with loads of
unknowns buzzing around that bit of airspace and from my experience some of
the GA routing along there (many route dty sapco lic or similar routing) are
working either cov, east midlands or brum, or none. So cov have no way of
knowing what that traffic is doing...and TCAS doesn't see non-squawking
traffic!! Its an accident waiting to happen, and putting a lot of pressure
on Controllers to risk there licence's by trying to provide a Radar service
outside of controlled airspace.
I wouldn't fly on one of these planes even if it was free!
James
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Hmm James.
I note that this is your first and only post. Your terminology seems to indicate that you have some knowledge of aviation.
Would you care to update your profile, which at the moment is somewhat short on detail, to give us a clearer idea of the validity of your observations.
Cheers.
I note that this is your first and only post. Your terminology seems to indicate that you have some knowledge of aviation.
Would you care to update your profile, which at the moment is somewhat short on detail, to give us a clearer idea of the validity of your observations.
Cheers.
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Methinks Jamesfly has a wealth of experience looking at a screen.
Cleverly disguised use of the syntax mind you.
Think you mentioned the peril of flight OCA to the east of EGBE....and not even a free ticket would persuade you to venture out there in a 73.
Cleverly disguised use of the syntax mind you.
Think you mentioned the peril of flight OCA to the east of EGBE....and not even a free ticket would persuade you to venture out there in a 73.
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MAN_Dispatcher, I want to know exactly the same thing with regards to who will be handling Thomsonfly flights out of Coventry, as I'm trying to get a job in customer services in the Midlands at the moment, and could find nothing on the Thomsonfly or Coventry Airport websites with regards to handling agents or positions available.
sharpshot, I believe that the aircraft is at the Schreiner hangar in Amsterdam having some final tests done out there before launch, like Go Fly had done on their 733s at FLS before they launched flights, because Go like Thomsonfly does not have the facilities to do these tests on their own. I also think that the aircraft are being refurbished to Thomsonfly specifications.
sharpshot, I believe that the aircraft is at the Schreiner hangar in Amsterdam having some final tests done out there before launch, like Go Fly had done on their 733s at FLS before they launched flights, because Go like Thomsonfly does not have the facilities to do these tests on their own. I also think that the aircraft are being refurbished to Thomsonfly specifications.
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Oh right i see - so i take it came last thursday for a training flight then?
Back to the main thread question - when are they actually arriving at coventry then!?
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Dan
Back to the main thread question - when are they actually arriving at coventry then!?
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About handling. Aviance packed up and left last summer, so it won't be them?! (wonder if they now wish they had stayed??)
Thomsonfly said to me that it was Coventry Airport. Now, I do not know if they mean Coventry Airport (http://www.coventryairport.co.uk ) OR Coventry Airport handling (separate company)... who were set up with what was left after Aviance/Reed went. Their website: http://www.aviationhandling.com . Interestingly the same address Reed Aviation used to have.
Thomsonfly said to me that it was Coventry Airport. Now, I do not know if they mean Coventry Airport (http://www.coventryairport.co.uk ) OR Coventry Airport handling (separate company)... who were set up with what was left after Aviance/Reed went. Their website: http://www.aviationhandling.com . Interestingly the same address Reed Aviation used to have.
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Are any jobs going at Coventry since the startup of this airline? I thought they would be advertising in local newspapers, but have seen no sign....
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Jet lands airport in a fresh noise row Mar 23 2004
By Emma Snodgrass And Ben Griffin
Campaigners and bosses at Coventry Airport are embroiled in a new row over plane noise - a week before the first official no-frills flight takes off.
People fighting expansion of passenger flights at the airport have hit out at opera-tors TUI for their "cynical spin" after the first Boeing 737 passenger jet touched down at Baginton last week.
The day after the plane landed, TUI released a statement claiming no noise complaints had been received. Experts measured the noise above Stoneleigh at 55dB, compared to 80dB for later freight flights.
But frustrated residents living near the airport claim they have given up complaining to the airport because nothing is ever done to alleviate noise problems.
Tomorrow a Boeing 757 plane - with more than 100 more passenger seats than the Boeing 737 - will have a test landing at Baginton.
The airport claims this is necessary in case any "technical" difficulties ground their other planes.
Airport campaigner Archie Muir said: "This is a cynical piece of spin. It is not a proper reflection of the noise levels locals are subjected to.
"We knew the plane was coming.
"But an unladen plane is much quieter than a fully laden plane and a plane coming in and taking off between 6pm and 7pm is doing so when the ground noise is reasonably high anyway.
"It will be very noticeable when they touch down in the middle of the night, late at night or in early morning.
"If he is suggesting when we complain he will do something about it, we will flood him with complaints."
Bill Savage, managing director of Coventry Airport, said the lack of complaints demonstrated the "aircraft will not prove to be a noise nuisance to local residents and so augurs well for the reintroduction of scheduled passenger flights from the end of March".
Russell Ison, from TUI, said the larger Boeing 757 planes owned by TUI's sister company Britannia, would only be used if there was a technical fault with one of the 131-seat 737s. He said the plane would land, turn round, and take off again, but was unable to say what time it would happen.
"It's purely a test," he said. "It is not a big event."
By Emma Snodgrass And Ben Griffin
Campaigners and bosses at Coventry Airport are embroiled in a new row over plane noise - a week before the first official no-frills flight takes off.
People fighting expansion of passenger flights at the airport have hit out at opera-tors TUI for their "cynical spin" after the first Boeing 737 passenger jet touched down at Baginton last week.
The day after the plane landed, TUI released a statement claiming no noise complaints had been received. Experts measured the noise above Stoneleigh at 55dB, compared to 80dB for later freight flights.
But frustrated residents living near the airport claim they have given up complaining to the airport because nothing is ever done to alleviate noise problems.
Tomorrow a Boeing 757 plane - with more than 100 more passenger seats than the Boeing 737 - will have a test landing at Baginton.
The airport claims this is necessary in case any "technical" difficulties ground their other planes.
Airport campaigner Archie Muir said: "This is a cynical piece of spin. It is not a proper reflection of the noise levels locals are subjected to.
"We knew the plane was coming.
"But an unladen plane is much quieter than a fully laden plane and a plane coming in and taking off between 6pm and 7pm is doing so when the ground noise is reasonably high anyway.
"It will be very noticeable when they touch down in the middle of the night, late at night or in early morning.
"If he is suggesting when we complain he will do something about it, we will flood him with complaints."
Bill Savage, managing director of Coventry Airport, said the lack of complaints demonstrated the "aircraft will not prove to be a noise nuisance to local residents and so augurs well for the reintroduction of scheduled passenger flights from the end of March".
Russell Ison, from TUI, said the larger Boeing 757 planes owned by TUI's sister company Britannia, would only be used if there was a technical fault with one of the 131-seat 737s. He said the plane would land, turn round, and take off again, but was unable to say what time it would happen.
"It's purely a test," he said. "It is not a big event."
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Dan, take a look at the Britannia webpage for jobs
http://www.britanniaairways.com/ (go to 'more categories')
Jobs available at Coventry:
Pilot/First Officer
Station Manager
Cabin Crew
Or e-mail Coventry Handling, they prob have vacancies.
Jon
http://www.britanniaairways.com/ (go to 'more categories')
Jobs available at Coventry:
Pilot/First Officer
Station Manager
Cabin Crew
Or e-mail Coventry Handling, they prob have vacancies.
Jon
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Coventry have been told that the portacabin terminal needs planning permission..which they have not got! so its looking like its off again!!!
It seems an odd way of building an airport.. the runway probs now the terminal probs...I cant see this starting next week, unless the pax check in at BHX and then are bussed into CVT
Oh and the baggage handlers...well they will be the fireman at the airport!
This is like a classic "Carry On" film will they get Barbra Windsor to open the terminal in her wellies and bikini
Oh the 757 flight..whats the point of that?? one could never operate in and out of CVT with a proper load???
I think TUI have really bought a lemon here!
It seems an odd way of building an airport.. the runway probs now the terminal probs...I cant see this starting next week, unless the pax check in at BHX and then are bussed into CVT
Oh and the baggage handlers...well they will be the fireman at the airport!
This is like a classic "Carry On" film will they get Barbra Windsor to open the terminal in her wellies and bikini
Oh the 757 flight..whats the point of that?? one could never operate in and out of CVT with a proper load???
I think TUI have really bought a lemon here!
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I heard that the firemen down in CVT need a little more training - as the new Thomsonfly aircraft was 'christened' with a jet full of foam - most corrosive on aircraft bodies - instead of the traditional water......during its official 'welcome' to CVT.
What a welcome!!!!!
But on a positive note - the aircraft is there at least!!!
What a welcome!!!!!
But on a positive note - the aircraft is there at least!!!