NOW Aircraft...anyone know where they are?
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Jmc-mans remarks are moderate and reasonably accurate. Thanks for the concern.
Isis is full of it - none of us have been treated like crap; all have been kept upto date with all the developments, and all have access to the top man. How many companies share their bad news with their employees so directly?
Tailscrapre's gloating and personal insults are just an indication of his/hers immaturity. What makes us a "shower of s88t"? The fact that we had the balls to stand up for ourselves and get out of a bad employer, and try to get a new and froward thinking outfit going? You have shown a similar attitude to MYT - what has made you so bitter as to gloat on others misfortune?
At the end of the day, the plan is good, the mgmt excellent and the finance is likely to come through, just too late for the planned season. It should still fly, and I am still glad I gave them my best.
Isis is full of it - none of us have been treated like crap; all have been kept upto date with all the developments, and all have access to the top man. How many companies share their bad news with their employees so directly?
Tailscrapre's gloating and personal insults are just an indication of his/hers immaturity. What makes us a "shower of s88t"? The fact that we had the balls to stand up for ourselves and get out of a bad employer, and try to get a new and froward thinking outfit going? You have shown a similar attitude to MYT - what has made you so bitter as to gloat on others misfortune?
At the end of the day, the plan is good, the mgmt excellent and the finance is likely to come through, just too late for the planned season. It should still fly, and I am still glad I gave them my best.
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Errrr, does this mean that beatings around the back of the LTN flying club are now off the agenda????? Some people may like to feel just a little bit sheepish about their "threats". Bestest regards
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Whippersnapper ,
I suspect that isis was referring to the intended Cabin Crew for this supposed "non-existent" airline who have indeed been "treated like crap"!
No doubt in your elevated status as a B737 pilot you will have been treated a little better!?
It was ever thus!
I suspect that isis was referring to the intended Cabin Crew for this supposed "non-existent" airline who have indeed been "treated like crap"!
No doubt in your elevated status as a B737 pilot you will have been treated a little better!?
It was ever thus!
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Enjoy that feeling. It is mutual.
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Right, so you left a bad employer. One that presumably paid it's people every month? One that kept it's promises to job applicants. I presume.
The plan is sound. Right oh then.?? Offer jobs in May, leave people sitting around for months, then lay them off without paying them a penny. Just before Xmas. Nice. And, I reiterate that this gentleman has not received ONE PENNY in wages since his "start date".
A new and froward(sic) thinking company? What? You are just grateful that the axe hasn't swung on you yet really. The facts are that others have been treated abominably by your froward thinking management. I hope they lose the axe quickly.
I am not gloating. I am pointing out the FACTS here. NOW have been full of hot air since the LAUNCH back in early 2003.
You may hate me for my views, but really I bet you are hoping to hell that you get another job. And personally, I hope you do because you have been shafted even though you do not realise it yet .
NOW are not going to get going because they have NO MONEY. And with NO MONEY, they will get NO AIRCRAFT. And with NO AIRCRAFT, you will have NO PASSENGERS. So, with NO PASSENGERS NOW will have NO BUSINESS. End of story.
I don't think I will be proved wrong on this.
I hope that my immaturity has not offended you. Immaturity could be realism as well. It depends on which side of the story you prefer.
Enjoy that feeling. It is mutual.
whippersnapper
Right, so you left a bad employer. One that presumably paid it's people every month? One that kept it's promises to job applicants. I presume.
The plan is sound. Right oh then.?? Offer jobs in May, leave people sitting around for months, then lay them off without paying them a penny. Just before Xmas. Nice. And, I reiterate that this gentleman has not received ONE PENNY in wages since his "start date".
A new and froward(sic) thinking company? What? You are just grateful that the axe hasn't swung on you yet really. The facts are that others have been treated abominably by your froward thinking management. I hope they lose the axe quickly.
I am not gloating. I am pointing out the FACTS here. NOW have been full of hot air since the LAUNCH back in early 2003.
You may hate me for my views, but really I bet you are hoping to hell that you get another job. And personally, I hope you do because you have been shafted even though you do not realise it yet .
NOW are not going to get going because they have NO MONEY. And with NO MONEY, they will get NO AIRCRAFT. And with NO AIRCRAFT, you will have NO PASSENGERS. So, with NO PASSENGERS NOW will have NO BUSINESS. End of story.
I don't think I will be proved wrong on this.
I hope that my immaturity has not offended you. Immaturity could be realism as well. It depends on which side of the story you prefer.
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Give that man a gold star, tailscrape I couldnt have put it better myself..maybe Whippersnapper can read and learn, or are you too tied up in the "neverland" mentality.
Everybody loves management that are approachable and open especially when they tell you the crap you want to hear!
Open your eyes Whippersnapper you may be asking that bad company for your job back in a few days....you remember the one Easyjet, the company who does have planes and pays monthly!
Everybody loves management that are approachable and open especially when they tell you the crap you want to hear!
Open your eyes Whippersnapper you may be asking that bad company for your job back in a few days....you remember the one Easyjet, the company who does have planes and pays monthly!
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Whippersnapper a friend of mine has been offered a job with NOW, and that was back in June/July and to date he has only ever had one phone call to update him. That, I'm afarid, is not what I would call looking after potential staff. I suspect though that when (if) he gets another phone call to say "come on down" he will be long gone and so another highly motivated and experienced person on type, is lost.
I'd say this company is getting a bad reputation even before it starts flying. Lets hope then that the potential new money man won't back down because without him, NOW will never be. With such a good team of people on board, those from GO I mean, it deserves to succeed. As for the ex VEX man, well.......
I'd say this company is getting a bad reputation even before it starts flying. Lets hope then that the potential new money man won't back down because without him, NOW will never be. With such a good team of people on board, those from GO I mean, it deserves to succeed. As for the ex VEX man, well.......
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Okay so the situation at NOW doesn't look great but........
tailcrap - in reply to someone else you said-
Right, so you left a bad employer. One that presumably paid it's people every month? One that kept it's promises to job applicants. I presume.
Are you seriously talking about easyjet?
Changed your tune since they were the nastiest people you'd ever come across - oh let me see that was when you couldn't get a job with them wasn't it
Isis - it seems that the only person/people complaining about crap treatment of staff by NOW management are people that are not actually NOW staff so ??????????????????????????? - where are all the staff letting off their steam then or perhaps you're talking a load of old rubbish
tailcrap - in reply to someone else you said-
Right, so you left a bad employer. One that presumably paid it's people every month? One that kept it's promises to job applicants. I presume.
Are you seriously talking about easyjet?
Changed your tune since they were the nastiest people you'd ever come across - oh let me see that was when you couldn't get a job with them wasn't it
Isis - it seems that the only person/people complaining about crap treatment of staff by NOW management are people that are not actually NOW staff so ??????????????????????????? - where are all the staff letting off their steam then or perhaps you're talking a load of old rubbish
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I suspect the staff are doing something more valuable with their time - like looking for another job. This is all very sad really, on the assumption that NOW won't get airborne. Here we are another 9 page plus thread and no airline......
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thats true but i dont think £300'000 lasts very long in this business. I have no idea about intial startup costs but i heard $25'000'000 touted is this reasonable? If so where on earth do you find enough nutters to stump up this sort of cash?
FLYMATE do you still think NOW will fly? honestly? I hope they do, i really do but its going to be tough.
JMCMAN i seem to remember offering you a hat to eat but i think i might hold onto it a little longer, (i like my hat roasted)
FLYMATE do you still think NOW will fly? honestly? I hope they do, i really do but its going to be tough.
JMCMAN i seem to remember offering you a hat to eat but i think i might hold onto it a little longer, (i like my hat roasted)
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Reading all the speculations and opinions above, I am amazed at the "told you so" comments. Doesn't anyone have any idea of business? Start ups go through ups and downs, this is a down. There is in now way that the company will fold. It is a matter of time for funds to become available.
I read the comments, and some of them quite frankly hurt my feelings. The sceptics make comments and have no feeling for the people who have invested their time in NOW. What a nasty lot those sceptics are. Stay away from NOW when we are successful, we don't want nasty people like jmc-man,isis,tailscrape and the like.
I read the comments, and some of them quite frankly hurt my feelings. The sceptics make comments and have no feeling for the people who have invested their time in NOW. What a nasty lot those sceptics are. Stay away from NOW when we are successful, we don't want nasty people like jmc-man,isis,tailscrape and the like.
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Hello there FLYMATE would I be right in saying that the cabin staff have all been laid off recently? I've been watching these threads from a distance and have seen the whole thing slide slowly downwards. Good to see that you still have faith in something that potentially has huge potential, but does the management team still think they can get this off the ground? Finance is the main stumbling block in any business if you can't get it. Let's hope all the negative vibes being posted will turn to positive ones very soon.
NOW then......or.......NOW now ?
NOW then......or.......NOW now ?
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Some nasty comments about NOW. I have a friend who has just been laid off by NOW, but despite this he is still hugely complimentary about the management team and the way in which they have handled everything. They have been honest and very upfront with all the employees it would seem.
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Big Bad Buster did some market research today, and if you phone the Now! switchboard and get transferred to those that know about their future operations, the understanding is that Now! will be launching at the end of Jan/early Feb!
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Well I have just sat here and read all 9 pages on this thread, the complimentary ones and the not so.
I have just been laid off, by NOW. I have to say that I have never worked with a bunch of people that have worked so hard to keep us all. Lars gives feed back good and bad. We have all had the facts placed in front of us at every briefing.
It is a shame that we have had to go and I will admit I will find it difficult being laid off just before Christmas. But that is the only bad thing I have to say about the company.
If I get a call from them, I WILL GO BACK. If I don't, I will go on.
It will be a shame if this Company folds and I hope very much so that it will not, not just as I WANT to work for them, but I think in the airline business competition is good for everyone and I think it is time for new independant competition to emerge
That is all I can say on the matter,at this time, but would it not be better for people in the business to help and support each other instead of back biting and bitchy comments?
There are people on here, me included, that are unemployed, so even if you feel that NOW has tarred people with a sh***y brush, do you really think we want to hear it at the moment?!?!?!?
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
I have just been laid off, by NOW. I have to say that I have never worked with a bunch of people that have worked so hard to keep us all. Lars gives feed back good and bad. We have all had the facts placed in front of us at every briefing.
It is a shame that we have had to go and I will admit I will find it difficult being laid off just before Christmas. But that is the only bad thing I have to say about the company.
If I get a call from them, I WILL GO BACK. If I don't, I will go on.
It will be a shame if this Company folds and I hope very much so that it will not, not just as I WANT to work for them, but I think in the airline business competition is good for everyone and I think it is time for new independant competition to emerge
That is all I can say on the matter,at this time, but would it not be better for people in the business to help and support each other instead of back biting and bitchy comments?
There are people on here, me included, that are unemployed, so even if you feel that NOW has tarred people with a sh***y brush, do you really think we want to hear it at the moment?!?!?!?
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL
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Dirty Harry,
I havn't been involved in "Nasty" comments......but I find it extremely difficult to match up.........
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How can offering someone a job in an airline that has not been financed properly only to have to lay them off again within 6 weeks be termed as "honest and upfront".
Being honest, they should have said," We'd love you to come and work for us, but we havn't got the finance yet, and we don't want you to leave your existing job until we have the money required to start the business"
Now that would be "upfront" as you put it.
The greatest shame of what's happening here is that most of the strong Pro-NOW comments here have been from enthusiastic and well intentioned employees, who have obviously bought into the dream presented to them by the Senior Management team. Everyone believed the blind enthusiasm of the top leadership, and wouldn't countenance any suggestion that maybe the top guys might not have got it right.
So now the enthusiastic employees are finding themselves out of work, while the reputation of the Dream -seller is intact. I wonder how much this has cost the Chief Operating Officer, or the Interim Chairman.
Something not quite right about that.
Buster
Whatever credibility the team might have had up to now will evaporate as quickly as the employee parking spaces.
I havn't been involved in "Nasty" comments......but I find it extremely difficult to match up.........
I have a friend who has just been laid off by NOW
They have been honest and very upfront with all the employees it would seem.
How can offering someone a job in an airline that has not been financed properly only to have to lay them off again within 6 weeks be termed as "honest and upfront".
Being honest, they should have said," We'd love you to come and work for us, but we havn't got the finance yet, and we don't want you to leave your existing job until we have the money required to start the business"
Now that would be "upfront" as you put it.
The greatest shame of what's happening here is that most of the strong Pro-NOW comments here have been from enthusiastic and well intentioned employees, who have obviously bought into the dream presented to them by the Senior Management team. Everyone believed the blind enthusiasm of the top leadership, and wouldn't countenance any suggestion that maybe the top guys might not have got it right.
So now the enthusiastic employees are finding themselves out of work, while the reputation of the Dream -seller is intact. I wonder how much this has cost the Chief Operating Officer, or the Interim Chairman.
Something not quite right about that.
Buster
Whatever credibility the team might have had up to now will evaporate as quickly as the employee parking spaces.
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Tailscrape
I am curious as to the motive for your invective. You appear to gloat at the unfortunate which is odious. I doubt whether you are privy to the facts so pretending that you are is mischievous, please desist.
Redundancy is a dreadful experience at any time of year, particularly heightened at Christmas time. I hope it never happens to you, although there may be some contributors to this forum that will disagree with me on this point.
JMC-Man
When I did meteorology, evaporating car park spaces was not a part of the curiculum. Has something changed, a new phenomenon perhaps ?
FEBA
I am curious as to the motive for your invective. You appear to gloat at the unfortunate which is odious. I doubt whether you are privy to the facts so pretending that you are is mischievous, please desist.
Redundancy is a dreadful experience at any time of year, particularly heightened at Christmas time. I hope it never happens to you, although there may be some contributors to this forum that will disagree with me on this point.
JMC-Man
When I did meteorology, evaporating car park spaces was not a part of the curiculum. Has something changed, a new phenomenon perhaps ?
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I for one remain very poitive, we are in a state of being on hold, whilst the finances arrive. The company has not folded. It is merely being held suspended whilst investors look over the company and go ahead with investing. Until then I will keep the faith and keep my nerve. The rewards will come to those who believe in this venture. Others will fall by the weigh side, that is their choice. I for one will be there when we go for launch.
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To be posted on the Now! web site shortly:
Now Airlines update
Now Airlines, the new low-cost airline first revealed in March, has confirmed that it will announce its launch plan early in the New Year.
The airline is nearing completion in the process for gaining its full licenses from the CAA.
Chief executive, Lars Welinder said: “Unfortunately it hasn’t been possible to start operating in time for the Christmas season as we had hoped. The CAA process is nearing completion and we will announce our launch plans in the New Year”.
Now Airlines, the new low-cost airline first revealed in March, has confirmed that it will announce its launch plan early in the New Year.
The airline is nearing completion in the process for gaining its full licenses from the CAA.
Chief executive, Lars Welinder said: “Unfortunately it hasn’t been possible to start operating in time for the Christmas season as we had hoped. The CAA process is nearing completion and we will announce our launch plans in the New Year”.