NOW Aircraft...anyone know where they are?
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the phrase back to the drawing board springs to mind.... I suspect NOW have lost those 2 a/c and are now looking elsewhere. Still, bit short sighted to look at ex EZY a/c in the first place.....
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On 3 December. you commented about ' a launch this side of Christmas'. I assume you mean the commercial launch to the Travel industry, press etc. With Christmas only two weeks away and the on-going saga re aircraft etc, isn't this somewhat unlikely now?.
On 3 December. you commented about ' a launch this side of Christmas'. I assume you mean the commercial launch to the Travel industry, press etc. With Christmas only two weeks away and the on-going saga re aircraft etc, isn't this somewhat unlikely now?.
LTN was heading south of 200m last night. I would have expected diversions from LTN rather than to it. What time did it arrive?
Seems like a rubbish time to launch a new airline - the run up to Christmas. Advertising rates are at their highest in the year. Most people are spending on presents - not airline tickets.
Something like mid January makes more sense to me. Advertising drops to its knees, everybody is miserable with the weather and people start thinking about holidays again.
But then I know absolutely nothing about launching an airline.
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Seems like a rubbish time to launch a new airline - the run up to Christmas. Advertising rates are at their highest in the year. Most people are spending on presents - not airline tickets.
Something like mid January makes more sense to me. Advertising drops to its knees, everybody is miserable with the weather and people start thinking about holidays again.
But then I know absolutely nothing about launching an airline.
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It arrived at Luton at around 19.20 well before the visibility dropped. I'm told it is still at Luton in a wonderful all white scheme.
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Someone should pop over to wherever it is parked and take a picture of it. I don't know if it is THE one or not. As for the launch, if it IS indeed the aircraft being taken on by NOW then that means the AOC has been granted and the tickets can go on sale for a launch this side of Christmas as was envisaged. More than that I do not know.
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The a/c wasn't planned to LTN as per TAREK NOR's input earlier which means it is supposed to be somewhere else which means that the AOC is still yet to be issued which means seat sales cannot start which means no launch which in turn means............more waiting 
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If indeed we do see this long awaited launce, which I hope we do, is there any word on chosen handling agents in MAN and LTN?
Have they been waiting sinch March for an arrival or has an agent not been appointed yet?
Have they been waiting sinch March for an arrival or has an agent not been appointed yet?
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A little birdy tells me that bad news is possibly around the corner and unless they seriously get their act together VERY soon, the name NOW will become NEVER. The first a/c is at BOH awaiting it's fate in terms of next lease which at this rate will not be with NOW.
With NOW seemingly suffering with a lack of finance, it makes you wonder how MYT's backers remain loyal. Surely these backers would be better off backing something new rather than a business that is going knowhere fast. Let's face it MYT's losses are huge and can only get worse.
Any pilots or cabin crew, ground staff (if there are any) care to make comment. Lets face it, your livelyhoods are at stake here and with constant promises which turns into bull***t I'd guess you must all be losing faith. Tarek Nor, you appear to be in the know, tell us something we haven't already heard !
With NOW seemingly suffering with a lack of finance, it makes you wonder how MYT's backers remain loyal. Surely these backers would be better off backing something new rather than a business that is going knowhere fast. Let's face it MYT's losses are huge and can only get worse.
Any pilots or cabin crew, ground staff (if there are any) care to make comment. Lets face it, your livelyhoods are at stake here and with constant promises which turns into bull***t I'd guess you must all be losing faith. Tarek Nor, you appear to be in the know, tell us something we haven't already heard !
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There is an old saying that goes " If you owe the Bank £10,000 , it's your problem. If you owe the bank £10M it's their problem", and this sums up the MYT situation. Most of the backers of MYT are in so deep, they might as well hang on ( provided their exposure doesn't increase) on the basis that the first one to pull out will bring down the whole house of cards.
W.r.t. backing for Now, my view remains that they cannot make a strong business case for what is effectively another Low Cost operator in a heavily subscribed market without an obvious niche. All the talk about it being " different" will not reassure an investor, as the existing formula is seen to be " successful" by virtue of the current profit levels of both RYR and EZY.
The second quietest month of the Flying year (after November) is February. NOW would be better waiting for an April or May launch at this stage, assuming they can get all the pieces together.
With NOW seemingly suffering with a lack of finance, it makes you wonder how MYT's backers remain loyal. Surely these backers would be better off backing something new rather than a business that is going knowhere fast.
W.r.t. backing for Now, my view remains that they cannot make a strong business case for what is effectively another Low Cost operator in a heavily subscribed market without an obvious niche. All the talk about it being " different" will not reassure an investor, as the existing formula is seen to be " successful" by virtue of the current profit levels of both RYR and EZY.
The second quietest month of the Flying year (after November) is February. NOW would be better waiting for an April or May launch at this stage, assuming they can get all the pieces together.
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I can confirm that G-IGOC did infact ferry Luton to Bournemouth yesterday as "easyJet oscar charlie" and it also undertook a brief training sortie before heading to the coast using the same callsign.
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jmc-man so, a year since original launch then ? Might as well give up..... Just how do other airlines around the world spring up, launch and get going all within short time scales
For an airline that "launched" in March last year, it certainly is generating interest on Pprune. 3 major threads, 2 closed down, and a 3rd about to be no doubt, and yet it hasn't started flying. What will happen when it starts flying, then shuts down? How many pages on here will that generate
Just how do other airlines around the world spring up, launch and get going all within short time scales For an airline that "launched" in March last year, it certainly is generating interest on Pprune. 3 major threads, 2 closed down, and a 3rd about to be no doubt, and yet it hasn't started flying. What will happen when it starts flying, then shuts down? How many pages on here will that generate
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I think you'll find that the original launch of NOW was in March 2003, that's not a year. Also other start ups normally start piggy backing on someone else's AOC like easyJet did with Air Foyle, NOW want to get their own and not rely on piggy backing.
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Why not go on somebody else's AOC for a while? If it means you get flying, get some income and get your name known to the public why not? It may not be as profitable as having your own, but something is always better than nothing.
Hopefully NOW will get going, but I can't see it being successful at the moment, they obviously haven't got the cash and as we all know, at the end of the day that's all that matters.
Hopefully NOW will get going, but I can't see it being successful at the moment, they obviously haven't got the cash and as we all know, at the end of the day that's all that matters.
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Yarpy/ Flymate,
Both Flyjet and Astraeus are examples of recent start-ups that achieved an AOC in 6-7 weeks from application.
I don't believe this is the problem with NOW. As I understand it, they have completed the AOC side of things. The underlying issue is more likely funding, in particular the funding required by the CAA CPG for a scheduled airline selling seats directly to the public, something neither Flyjet nor Astraeus needed to do.
The CPG's requirements of sufficient funding to operate for 3 months after startup with NO income will, at the moment be a moving feast for NOW, especially if they have a group of people on salary already.
Both Flyjet and Astraeus are examples of recent start-ups that achieved an AOC in 6-7 weeks from application.
I don't believe this is the problem with NOW. As I understand it, they have completed the AOC side of things. The underlying issue is more likely funding, in particular the funding required by the CAA CPG for a scheduled airline selling seats directly to the public, something neither Flyjet nor Astraeus needed to do.
The CPG's requirements of sufficient funding to operate for 3 months after startup with NO income will, at the moment be a moving feast for NOW, especially if they have a group of people on salary already.