NOW Aircraft...anyone know where they are?
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What? "Even jmc man and Tailscrape admit it may start" or some such stuff...
May I remind you that I wa soffered a place on the first 737 conversion course. However I declined the offer as I did not feel that NOW had enough of a plan to keep me in work...
That was last MAY!!! We are in December nearly now...and still no aircraft, routes or passengers.
Not knocking them, but the people at NOW in my opinion desreve both my and jmc man's scepticism.
We all live in a real world, and NOW would have had me giving my house back to the bank already had I accepted methinks.
Be real.
What? "Even jmc man and Tailscrape admit it may start" or some such stuff...
May I remind you that I wa soffered a place on the first 737 conversion course. However I declined the offer as I did not feel that NOW had enough of a plan to keep me in work...
That was last MAY!!! We are in December nearly now...and still no aircraft, routes or passengers.
Not knocking them, but the people at NOW in my opinion desreve both my and jmc man's scepticism.
We all live in a real world, and NOW would have had me giving my house back to the bank already had I accepted methinks.
Be real.
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Just read through this long thread and some very good comments from JMC Man but I am left wondering why Flymate is so in love with NOW. And what gives HIM the right to answer back to people the way he does, when they are only giving their opinions on the matter.
To be told one week after joining "we are delayed again until February" and "you can take shares for payment or be on a basic salary", and wait to be called to do office work, wouldn't fill me with confidence, so you deserve all the comments you receive Flymate.
Yes the new cabin crew have just had their first wage paid in today, but when are you going to start flying? By the time they get the first aircraft and its finished off, it will be too late to do the AD HOC charters they have promised you all over DEC. Maybe you should take off your rose coloured glasses flymate and listen to some constructive critiscim.....
To be told one week after joining "we are delayed again until February" and "you can take shares for payment or be on a basic salary", and wait to be called to do office work, wouldn't fill me with confidence, so you deserve all the comments you receive Flymate.
Yes the new cabin crew have just had their first wage paid in today, but when are you going to start flying? By the time they get the first aircraft and its finished off, it will be too late to do the AD HOC charters they have promised you all over DEC. Maybe you should take off your rose coloured glasses flymate and listen to some constructive critiscim.....
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from the outside it may not look too good, but would you all not agree that a lot of people have chosen to join and leave good jobs in other companies therefore they must all know something others don't? - at least thats what i think.
The management team have being extremely sensible in their decisions, it aint easy what they are doing.Its gonna happen.
hello tailscrape hows the lug'oles? Got lots to tell ya.
The management team have being extremely sensible in their decisions, it aint easy what they are doing.Its gonna happen.
hello tailscrape hows the lug'oles? Got lots to tell ya.
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isis, as you claim to have read ALL the previous threads, you will have got a good idea of what people "think" is happening at NOW. It is clearly obvious I have a vested interest in NOW.
I simply get very tired of reading things from people, such as jmc-man, who come on to this thread and although they know the aviation world pretty well, they write absolute drivel when it comes to the subject of NOW. Outsiders may well see indecision and strange undertakings by the management, however if they were "in the know" and present at the briefings, their overview of what is going on would be so different.
An opinion is one thing, but to put across a view as if they know all the facts is WRONG when they cannot back up their opinion with TRUE facts of what is going on.
Also the tone in the negative comments is almost wishing that NOW goes down the pan making 100's of people unemployed. A strange sentiment by our fellow "colleagues". It will be curious when NOW is up there and flying, just how many of these cynics will be knocking at NOW's door asking for jobs. Personally, I wish they would stay put elsewhere as NOW can do without the destructive types.
I simply get very tired of reading things from people, such as jmc-man, who come on to this thread and although they know the aviation world pretty well, they write absolute drivel when it comes to the subject of NOW. Outsiders may well see indecision and strange undertakings by the management, however if they were "in the know" and present at the briefings, their overview of what is going on would be so different.
An opinion is one thing, but to put across a view as if they know all the facts is WRONG when they cannot back up their opinion with TRUE facts of what is going on.
Also the tone in the negative comments is almost wishing that NOW goes down the pan making 100's of people unemployed. A strange sentiment by our fellow "colleagues". It will be curious when NOW is up there and flying, just how many of these cynics will be knocking at NOW's door asking for jobs. Personally, I wish they would stay put elsewhere as NOW can do without the destructive types.
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Sept 19th was the last media release, so when is the next due?
I just want to be on their first flight.
The info relating to leasing planes that need huge work since the end of thier last lease must be incorrect, unless the lessor is footing the delay bill for Now staff salaries?
So much rumour and gossip, but that is the enjoyment of this web site.
Good luck to all @ Now.
I just want to be on their first flight.
The info relating to leasing planes that need huge work since the end of thier last lease must be incorrect, unless the lessor is footing the delay bill for Now staff salaries?
So much rumour and gossip, but that is the enjoyment of this web site.
Good luck to all @ Now.
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NOW Airlines have confirmed to LLA an amended start date of February 2004 operating 5+ European routes utilising B737-300 aircraft. Seat sales are expected from early December 2003.
In your (oh and of course FLYMATE's) dreams...!
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LLA = London Luton Airport, and I dare say that if NOW get their a/c problems sorted out soon, then seat sales and operations will commence as they mention, in February. We await even more developments to ...... develop !
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isis and with no finance in place, how do explain why the CAA allowed a proving flight to happen? They wouldn't waste their time if there was no money around. Prove me wrong.
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Understand that the CAA have approved the safety checks for operations but some of the route economics to certain destinations is taking longer than expected. And of course, one small problem, no aircraft.
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bacardi walla - thank you for kindly answering my question; however in response to your comment to isis as
I understand it:
NO aircraft = NO AOC
NO AOC = NO financial backing
NO financial backing = ...............?
Amongst other things it means as isis has already stated NOW "employees" looking for alternative employment - ALLEGEDLY with the blessing (not to say encouragement!?) of NOW's "management"!????
Prove me (or isis ) wrong!
Interesting to note that FLYMATE who until now has always been extremely vociferous and quick to "preach the gospel according to NOW..." (with all the zeal and fervour of a religous convert!) has gone strangely and most uncharacteristically silent!
Has he finally removed his rose-tinted spectacles?
Before I get shot down in flames by the NOW zealots let me once again stress I am NOT "anti-NOW" and I genuinely wish every one involved all the success in the world but I prefer to deal in facts rather than fantasy and wishful thinking!
Let's face it this is a company that boldly proclaimed its intentions back in......was it March? I forget it seems so long ago NOW!
Good Luck to all!
I understand it:
NO aircraft = NO AOC
NO AOC = NO financial backing
NO financial backing = ...............?
Amongst other things it means as isis has already stated NOW "employees" looking for alternative employment - ALLEGEDLY with the blessing (not to say encouragement!?) of NOW's "management"!????
Prove me (or isis ) wrong!
Interesting to note that FLYMATE who until now has always been extremely vociferous and quick to "preach the gospel according to NOW..." (with all the zeal and fervour of a religous convert!) has gone strangely and most uncharacteristically silent!
Has he finally removed his rose-tinted spectacles?
Before I get shot down in flames by the NOW zealots let me once again stress I am NOT "anti-NOW" and I genuinely wish every one involved all the success in the world but I prefer to deal in facts rather than fantasy and wishful thinking!
Let's face it this is a company that boldly proclaimed its intentions back in......was it March? I forget it seems so long ago NOW!
Good Luck to all!
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At last, I have it on good authority that NOW will not be starting this side of Christmas, that's this Christmas. Seems also that they could be looking elsewhere for airframes as the leasing company/EZY are still playing up. If someone can prove any of this wrong, like FLYMATE, maybe you'd be kind enough to post something 
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Thunor, I have been away that's all. There's not much to add except the launch will be this side of Christmas and Ten Minutes, it is clear that EZY have been dragging their heels with the airframes so the management have gone in search of other suppliers and if the EZY airframes do not become available soon, then they will take delivery of alternative airframes and so penalising EZY.
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The two ex GO aircraft listed as being acquired by NOW are available "immediately" from the lease company, according to the latest AIRFAX report, which might suggest that NOW have already started to look elsewhere.
Either that or the Lease company is hedging it's bets, which might also suggest that they are not holding a deposit.
Either that or the Lease company is hedging it's bets, which might also suggest that they are not holding a deposit.
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Someone, somewhere said that G-IGOC was destined for Now following its lease to easyJet?
Well it has just overflown me and is on finals for Luton.
Come on Mr 1 Bravo you will know the answer?
Well it has just overflown me and is on finals for Luton.
Come on Mr 1 Bravo you will know the answer?
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Well it is now at Luton, my Big Bear palace is directly underneath final approach so i have no idea of its colour scheme, but it could be back for easyJet to operate thier enhanced Luton timetable over Christmas. The pilot doing the R/T did actually say "easy....er Golf Oscar Charlie".
So if this was bound for Now!, what now?
So if this was bound for Now!, what now?