Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.
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Theses 49 last pages of the thread should already answer much of your questions 
http://www.pprune.org/flying-instruc...ml#post6056863 No Hours since 2011 ??!
http://www.pprune.org/flying-instruc...ml#post6056863 No Hours since 2011 ??!
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Hi Guys, just a quick question. I have more than 3000 hs TT (1200 in C208), I've been working in Tanzania too. I know that there the salary is much better than in Botswana but I was looking for a new place to fly. I know that I have to come there personally. The problem is: do they accept 45 years old pilot ?
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Anyone heading to Maun this year? I'm planning to turn up in early Oct 2015 and stay until Feb 2016 depending on my budget.
LFB2, thanks for your great initial post and you're continuing advice
Also a big thanks to CC, CVS, Exascot, PIP, DRS and Twotter for their super amazing info.
LFB2, thanks for your great initial post and you're continuing advice
Also a big thanks to CC, CVS, Exascot, PIP, DRS and Twotter for their super amazing info.
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Looks like there are three of us thus far. One of the guys wants to set up a WhatsApp group so that we can all stay in touch. PM me and i'll send your email address and phone # to him so that he can add you.
Has anyone been able to find the reg/circular/directive/document issued by either the CAAB or the Dept of Labour and Home Affairs. I'm still looking.
Any of the regulars know where I can find it?
Has anyone been able to find the reg/circular/directive/document issued by either the CAAB or the Dept of Labour and Home Affairs. I'm still looking.
Any of the regulars know where I can find it?
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Hmmmm, I think that 45 is a bit too old...
K.O.- Is there a specific document that you're looking for? Labor Dept. doesn't really publish anything useful with regards to permits.
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Hmmmm, I think that 45 is a bit too old.
There is something parked down that reminded us of you today.
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Hi Guys, just a quick question. I have more than 3000 hs TT (1200 in C208), I've been working in Tanzania too. I know that there the salary is much better than in Botswana but I was looking for a new place to fly. I know that I have to come there personally. The problem is: do they accept 45 years old pilot ?
My adivce, DONT DO IT!
I was in a position very similar to yours, I found that if you don't fit their mold, ie a low time desperate pilot, you'll have a harder time getting a job than a 200hr wonder.
It's like showing up for a interview at a cheap fast food joint as a formally trained and highly experienced chef, the management just isn't that bright and will think something must be wrong with you, or that you're after their job.
Stay in TZ, or find a job that requires a EXPERIENCED pilot, climb UP that ladder, not down it
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James
It depends upon the company. As you know, there are many. The best are managed by very experienced and capable people. They would not have this childish attitude. They would see your potential.
It's like showing up for a interview at a cheap fast food joint as a formally trained and highly experienced chef, the management just isn't that bright and will think something must be wrong with you, or that you're after their job.
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Hi P.I.P,
I'm looking for the exact piece of paper on it that says one must have 500TT to get a work permit.
The Indian DGCA is notorious for requiring various flight times, experience, licensure etc with no notice or documentation to show for it. It seems to be about as efficent as the CAAB.
Lilflyboy mentioned in his previous posts that minimum hours exist, yet operators seem to hire based on personality. I don't have 500TT, but I still want to turn up in Maun/Windhoek and try my luck.
Do you think I have a chance? I would like feedback so that I can manage my expectations better.
Thank you
I'm looking for the exact piece of paper on it that says one must have 500TT to get a work permit.
The Indian DGCA is notorious for requiring various flight times, experience, licensure etc with no notice or documentation to show for it. It seems to be about as efficent as the CAAB.
Lilflyboy mentioned in his previous posts that minimum hours exist, yet operators seem to hire based on personality. I don't have 500TT, but I still want to turn up in Maun/Windhoek and try my luck.
Do you think I have a chance? I would like feedback so that I can manage my expectations better.
Thank you
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It depends upon the company. As you know, there are many. The best are managed by very experienced and capable people. They would not have this childish attitude. They would see your potential.
Hire a multi thousand hour ATPL, piss him off with poor management or something and he's gone, with those hours and turbine time he doesn't NEED the low ranking job and can easily get a job on better equipment for higher pay and QOL.
Also the management is trained and used to working with low time desperate pilots, most of these pilots are quite young and this is their first "real" job, obviously the work atmosphere and management style are going to reflect this.
I'll stick to what I said, you'll have a easier and better time and QOL working up the ladder instead of down it.
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James331; you didn't get any Jobs, not because you had too much experience, but because everyone thought you were a d***bag.
The fact that you are back in the states, sitting commenting on this thread shows you are still bitter that no one realised your brilliance. Just because the operators weren't blinded by the sun glinting off your 4-bar eppies, and thousands of hours, doesn't mean they are unprofessional; it means the could recognise a bad apple.
Africa is an acquired taste. It's not America. The industry is different here, it requires people to actually work if they want something. It expects the low time pilots to pump fuel, to work
hours, to pay their dues.
But you know what, it weeds out those pilot's that don't have work ethic; the pilot's that are expecting a two year paid flying holiday in Africa.
The fact that you are back in the states, sitting commenting on this thread shows you are still bitter that no one realised your brilliance. Just because the operators weren't blinded by the sun glinting off your 4-bar eppies, and thousands of hours, doesn't mean they are unprofessional; it means the could recognise a bad apple.
Africa is an acquired taste. It's not America. The industry is different here, it requires people to actually work if they want something. It expects the low time pilots to pump fuel, to work
hours, to pay their dues.But you know what, it weeds out those pilot's that don't have work ethic; the pilot's that are expecting a two year paid flying holiday in Africa.