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Hey just a heads up for anyone coming to Maun this season, old bridge backpackers is only good for about 5 nights then they want you out, don't know anything about Audi camp sorry but there is a new backpackers 2km away from the airport called Motsebe backpackers. I found the place through a local guy. Its cheaper, quieter and best of all only a 15/20 min walk from town. Has lots of shade, grass,*pool, showers and toilets that are new, lounge and kitchen. Worth a look if you planning on staying in Maun for a while in the search for a job.
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Thanks maunman. I just got in not long ago and moved down there as wel... The owner is a really nice guy, pool is nice n deep the proximity to town makes it a great place.
It's cheaper when you stay for a longer period as well.
Anyone else planing on heading over, head on down to motsebe. The place is perfect for those on the job hunt.
It's cheaper when you stay for a longer period as well.
Anyone else planing on heading over, head on down to motsebe. The place is perfect for those on the job hunt.
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Wilderness Air has definitely increased their requirements, it seems that the website is out dated also. I believe its something to do with a new website or something.
A friend was told: 800 hrs with a CPL or 500 hrs with an instructors rating.
A friend was told: 800 hrs with a CPL or 500 hrs with an instructors rating.
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...old bridge backpackers is only good for about 5 nights then they want you out...
Please do not put them down though it is a great location for an afternoon by the river.Glad that you have found this new alternative location.
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Hi Guys,
Just spent about 2:30hrs reading the whole thread. First off thanks to all who have helped answer so many questions and especially to lilfy for keeping calm and collected! I just had a few questions i felt weren't asked or answer not mentioned.
1) Looked at operators in both Nam and Bot, most seam to bond you(12months to 3 yrs) if hired. What is the average amount, incase you find a better opportunity in that time? While working is it taken monthly out of salary? how much?
2) What are the eye sight limits for medical? Is it the case of if you have foreign 1st class then its a given or separate tests? Eg FAA have no limit but uk CAA have -6 dioptre for initial 1st class.
3) Someone mentioned that simulator hours were counted in Nam? Wasnt able to find definitive answer, Is this true?..for both FNPTII and full flight simulators? In which case my hours would go from 270 to 360!
4) Seams most people went with the tourist visa option when arriving. Is there a difference in arriving by air or by road? do one or the other bother/hassle you more or less in regards to questions/searching etc
5) I hold a valid and current JAR frozen ATPL MEP/MEIR, no single. And a FAA CPL- ME/SE/IR with the last FAA flight test over 2 years ago! Would i need to do a biannual before I leave? Also can i mix and match my licences, Ie use my FAA CPL/SE and JAR IR to get validated or do i have to apply on one licence? Are there any FAA examiners in maun/windhoek that i could renew with while there?
6) Wilderness air mention 250 hrs as min for Nam, Zim and Zambia. Would one have to go to those separate locations or can you get interviewed in one place? which one is suggested to a pilot with 270hrs? maun/windhoek?
Hmm seams quite long and boring! sorry but any feed back would be greatly appreciated, apologies if these questions have already been addressed in the thread.
Thanks
Just spent about 2:30hrs reading the whole thread. First off thanks to all who have helped answer so many questions and especially to lilfy for keeping calm and collected! I just had a few questions i felt weren't asked or answer not mentioned.
1) Looked at operators in both Nam and Bot, most seam to bond you(12months to 3 yrs) if hired. What is the average amount, incase you find a better opportunity in that time? While working is it taken monthly out of salary? how much?
2) What are the eye sight limits for medical? Is it the case of if you have foreign 1st class then its a given or separate tests? Eg FAA have no limit but uk CAA have -6 dioptre for initial 1st class.
3) Someone mentioned that simulator hours were counted in Nam? Wasnt able to find definitive answer, Is this true?..for both FNPTII and full flight simulators? In which case my hours would go from 270 to 360!
4) Seams most people went with the tourist visa option when arriving. Is there a difference in arriving by air or by road? do one or the other bother/hassle you more or less in regards to questions/searching etc
5) I hold a valid and current JAR frozen ATPL MEP/MEIR, no single. And a FAA CPL- ME/SE/IR with the last FAA flight test over 2 years ago! Would i need to do a biannual before I leave? Also can i mix and match my licences, Ie use my FAA CPL/SE and JAR IR to get validated or do i have to apply on one licence? Are there any FAA examiners in maun/windhoek that i could renew with while there?
6) Wilderness air mention 250 hrs as min for Nam, Zim and Zambia. Would one have to go to those separate locations or can you get interviewed in one place? which one is suggested to a pilot with 270hrs? maun/windhoek?
Hmm seams quite long and boring! sorry but any feed back would be greatly appreciated, apologies if these questions have already been addressed in the thread.
Thanks
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Answer for Q6
Hi,
This is taken from Wilderness' website.
"All pilots are interviewed in Maun or Windhoek. We would recommend that applicants take the time to travel to one of the regions and personally hand in their CV. No applicants are hired over the internet or telephonically."
Wilderness Air : : Employment Opportunities
Cheers.
This is taken from Wilderness' website.
"All pilots are interviewed in Maun or Windhoek. We would recommend that applicants take the time to travel to one of the regions and personally hand in their CV. No applicants are hired over the internet or telephonically."
Wilderness Air : : Employment Opportunities
Cheers.
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Ok, I will do my best to answer what I can.
1) I can't remember the bond for the 206 but 6000 Pula (this is for botswana) sounds about right, and the bond for the Van was around 10000 Pula. I think! Its not a huge amount in overseas terms.
The bond is not taken out of your paycheck. You basically "Work it off". If you leave before your time then you are required to pay the remaining amount.
2) Unsure of the eye things, I have no problems with mine.
3) Unsure about Nam. I would say go with the 270, but mention you have an extra 90hrs in a sim.
4) No real difference in going via road or via plane in terms of getting your visa. Maun is a tourist town and have hundreds of them arriving every day at the airport. Same with via road.
5) As long as your licence is valid, then it will be converted. You would probably be better off going for the FAA one. Not sure of the FAA examiners. Pretty sure there is none in Maun.
6) Wilderness Air has increased their minimums for ease of permit issue. If you have a truly exceptional CV they may take lower than that, but for the most part they are higher.
Don't even bother with Zim. They only use local pilots from there. Zambia has a 1000hr limit on expat pilots so most of the Zambia pilots go from the Botswana base to fly up there.
Nam I am not too sure about. I know they were having issues with getting expats work permits, and were looking at doing the whole 1000hr thing as well. I don't think it acutally happened but it is tricky to get in there. Can't hurt but try though!!!
1) I can't remember the bond for the 206 but 6000 Pula (this is for botswana) sounds about right, and the bond for the Van was around 10000 Pula. I think! Its not a huge amount in overseas terms.
The bond is not taken out of your paycheck. You basically "Work it off". If you leave before your time then you are required to pay the remaining amount.
2) Unsure of the eye things, I have no problems with mine.
3) Unsure about Nam. I would say go with the 270, but mention you have an extra 90hrs in a sim.
4) No real difference in going via road or via plane in terms of getting your visa. Maun is a tourist town and have hundreds of them arriving every day at the airport. Same with via road.
5) As long as your licence is valid, then it will be converted. You would probably be better off going for the FAA one. Not sure of the FAA examiners. Pretty sure there is none in Maun.
6) Wilderness Air has increased their minimums for ease of permit issue. If you have a truly exceptional CV they may take lower than that, but for the most part they are higher.
Don't even bother with Zim. They only use local pilots from there. Zambia has a 1000hr limit on expat pilots so most of the Zambia pilots go from the Botswana base to fly up there.
Nam I am not too sure about. I know they were having issues with getting expats work permits, and were looking at doing the whole 1000hr thing as well. I don't think it acutally happened but it is tricky to get in there. Can't hurt but try though!!!
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I've been reading the thread and researched this a bit, between Dave's Botswana bound and avcanada posts to cell phones to rentals/realestate.
Currently I'm FAA CPL land and sea, instrument and a flight instructor, and a emergency medical technician... if that helps lol
About 2200 TT
2050 PIC
500 Caravan, 300 U206/207
Most of the rest tailwheel.
I cant make it over this season as my current caravan job will have me for a little over a year (so looking like next season for sure!). By that time I'm pacing to be at 3500 or so TT, 1200 Caravan and I'll get off my lazy arse and get my ATP.
The deal is, I dont have any desire for the airlines, just interviewing places where I can do some rewarding flying, learn, enjoy life and call home for more then 1.5 yrs, Africa has a... well a real draw for me!
Problem is,
1 I'm not sure where I should go, Maun appeals to me, however I would like to be on the coast, a friendly culture would be good too.
2 Not sure how I should market myself, I realize many folks just want to time build and get on to the airlines, is there a fixed ceiling, or could a expat grow to be a chief pilot or something more if they put in the time?
3 My van hours are a little goofy, shes a Garrett, not sure if that would be a issue.
THANKS
Currently I'm FAA CPL land and sea, instrument and a flight instructor, and a emergency medical technician... if that helps lol
About 2200 TT
2050 PIC
500 Caravan, 300 U206/207
Most of the rest tailwheel.
I cant make it over this season as my current caravan job will have me for a little over a year (so looking like next season for sure!). By that time I'm pacing to be at 3500 or so TT, 1200 Caravan and I'll get off my lazy arse and get my ATP.
The deal is, I dont have any desire for the airlines, just interviewing places where I can do some rewarding flying, learn, enjoy life and call home for more then 1.5 yrs, Africa has a... well a real draw for me!
Problem is,
1 I'm not sure where I should go, Maun appeals to me, however I would like to be on the coast, a friendly culture would be good too.
2 Not sure how I should market myself, I realize many folks just want to time build and get on to the airlines, is there a fixed ceiling, or could a expat grow to be a chief pilot or something more if they put in the time?
3 My van hours are a little goofy, shes a Garrett, not sure if that would be a issue.
THANKS
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ninethreekilo:
1. don't even think about Bots and Nam. Shoot for Tanzania, you can send your CV through email and they will answer. In this moment there is a shortage in Van drivers at least two companies are looking for guys they could put on a plane asap - and it is low season.
2. nope, no ceiling, and yes one could grow
3. I wouldn't think it's an issue
Also most companies in TZ will give you a crew flat (or allowance), pay is much more then in bots and nam, and it has an awesome tropical coast.
1. don't even think about Bots and Nam. Shoot for Tanzania, you can send your CV through email and they will answer. In this moment there is a shortage in Van drivers at least two companies are looking for guys they could put on a plane asap - and it is low season.
2. nope, no ceiling, and yes one could grow
3. I wouldn't think it's an issue
Also most companies in TZ will give you a crew flat (or allowance), pay is much more then in bots and nam, and it has an awesome tropical coast.
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Tanzania
Zanzibar is great fun man. There's many charter co's here. I haven't got the hours to fly here so I'm going to Maun. But definitely want to come back. PM me if you want more info.
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Why restrict yourself to the PC12, they are relatively rare and used for longer sectors. There are probably 20 or move Vans in Africa for every PC12.
The C206 and C208 are the workhorses of the game reserves nowadays.
Anything much larger is likely to be operating on a scheduled service which can be just as boring IMHO as flying a 737 in Europe.
The C206 and C208 are the workhorses of the game reserves nowadays.
Anything much larger is likely to be operating on a scheduled service which can be just as boring IMHO as flying a 737 in Europe.
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Wilderness has increased her requirements indeed... 800 hrs and btw here is the response I got last month by a manager:
Thank you for your interest in Wilderness Air.
We are not hiring at the moment. However, CV's are filed for six months, as is policy in our company. When we require crew, we contact short-listed candidates for an interview in person.
All non-Namibian citizens require a work visa/permit to work in Namibia. We have been experiencing extreme difficulties in obtaining these from the Ministry of Home Affairs, and this is beyond our control. Consequently, we prefer hiring Namibian crew i.e. citizens of the country. Should none be available, we revert to the (foreign) CVs on file.
Good luck in your search for employment!
What about the other companies in Maun? Is it still possible for a low houred CPL IR ME 270hrs to get a job?
Thank you for your interest in Wilderness Air.
We are not hiring at the moment. However, CV's are filed for six months, as is policy in our company. When we require crew, we contact short-listed candidates for an interview in person.
All non-Namibian citizens require a work visa/permit to work in Namibia. We have been experiencing extreme difficulties in obtaining these from the Ministry of Home Affairs, and this is beyond our control. Consequently, we prefer hiring Namibian crew i.e. citizens of the country. Should none be available, we revert to the (foreign) CVs on file.
Good luck in your search for employment!
What about the other companies in Maun? Is it still possible for a low houred CPL IR ME 270hrs to get a job?
