Payday at Arik Air
Did somebody say the A330 is long gooooooooone repossed?
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Folks: Have you EVER heard of a plane being taken back from any airline for lack of payment, as this one was, or for any reason, and then the plane just "came back" in a few days (or ever)?
This is not a game to the companies that are actually in business to make money. Whatever and whoever is responsible for letting this (yet another) major failure of Arik Air to transpire, nothing has or will happen to fix it.
The A330 is gone. It won't come back. Boeing 777's are not ever going to arrive. B737 orders are largely cancelled. They would have to find the stupidest aircraft brokers in the world to be able to get anything with wings on it, short of cash up front. Even with cash, there are companies that wouldn't provide them an aircraft.
Salaries still aren't paid, and will soon be 30 days late. That problem will never go away, in my opinion, until the company folds.
The company will not earn it's way out of its gigantic fiscal disaster with the passenger loads on it's long haul flights. The gross mis-management that brought the company to this day won't somehow change until there is no company.
The company owes for everything it ever touches. By being one of the worst examples of fiscal responsibility of any operating airline in the world, they would be better off closing the door today, and starting a new company tomorrow, just to try and wash the stain of Arik in the world aviation business.
Clearly, the fat *ss who started this company is well connected. Who else could siphon so much money that was originally intended for a large government public works project, and not be in jail? So, we can never count out more of the same in a "bail out". But, as a stand alone company, Arik is bankrupt.
Airlines only need a few basic ingredients. Airplanes are one of them. Having your flagship airplane repo'd is not the way to success. When the A330 doesn't show up today or tomorrow, or next week, or next year, or never, like they "said"; just remember which management
helped spread that. I can't even believe some of you would believe anything like that from a company that not only can't pay you, but can't even be bothered to tell you that they can't pay you.
This is not a game to the companies that are actually in business to make money. Whatever and whoever is responsible for letting this (yet another) major failure of Arik Air to transpire, nothing has or will happen to fix it.
The A330 is gone. It won't come back. Boeing 777's are not ever going to arrive. B737 orders are largely cancelled. They would have to find the stupidest aircraft brokers in the world to be able to get anything with wings on it, short of cash up front. Even with cash, there are companies that wouldn't provide them an aircraft.
Salaries still aren't paid, and will soon be 30 days late. That problem will never go away, in my opinion, until the company folds.
The company will not earn it's way out of its gigantic fiscal disaster with the passenger loads on it's long haul flights. The gross mis-management that brought the company to this day won't somehow change until there is no company.
The company owes for everything it ever touches. By being one of the worst examples of fiscal responsibility of any operating airline in the world, they would be better off closing the door today, and starting a new company tomorrow, just to try and wash the stain of Arik in the world aviation business.
Clearly, the fat *ss who started this company is well connected. Who else could siphon so much money that was originally intended for a large government public works project, and not be in jail? So, we can never count out more of the same in a "bail out". But, as a stand alone company, Arik is bankrupt.
Airlines only need a few basic ingredients. Airplanes are one of them. Having your flagship airplane repo'd is not the way to success. When the A330 doesn't show up today or tomorrow, or next week, or next year, or never, like they "said"; just remember which management
helped spread that. I can't even believe some of you would believe anything like that from a company that not only can't pay you, but can't even be bothered to tell you that they can't pay you.
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Arik pilots seem smart enough
Stop whining here and leave Arik as soon as possible. We all know it's only a question of time before they go tits up so get out ahead of the crowd!
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Arik Air A330 - return
Well I say "Stick around Boy's and Girls" as with most things Arik they always seem to find a way of sorting themselves out" I reckon that we will have a departure out of JNB with the 330 sooner than you think.... if and I dearly hope that it doesnt 'the worst comes to pass' - then just know that from JNB we will be very sad to not see the 330 or the crew again - but one door closes and another opens - maybe a 380 really is on the cards - one never can tell. Chin up all - it could be worse - you could be working for ???????
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In my experience, fortunately thus far as only an interested observor, not having paid the salaries by the 22nd of the month , is often a precursor to the big bang 
It actually sounds this time like they dont have the goddam money, rather than just wanting to hang on to it a bit longer as seems to have been the case in the past.
You have already worked for free for 50 days, I wouldnt suggest exceeding this number by too many more if you can find another option.
It actually sounds this time like they dont have the goddam money, rather than just wanting to hang on to it a bit longer as seems to have been the case in the past.
You have already worked for free for 50 days, I wouldnt suggest exceeding this number by too many more if you can find another option.
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maybe a 380 really is on the cards - one never can tell. Chin up all - it could be worse
It's bad enough to not pay bills in general, but getting any aircraft repo'd probably isn't going to grant credit for another one.Yes, it could be worse. Every day pilots work for free, it gets worse for them. Pilots who stop working for lack of paycheques would also be worse for Arik. So, indeed, it gets worse every day.
Clearly, it was getting worse for the folks who repo'd the A330. They cut their losses. Pilots should do the same.
Edit: The A330-200 is still the "aircraft of the month" at Arik Air - Flights to USA: New York, United Kingdom: London, Nigeria: Lagos, Abuja, Benin, Akure, Warri, Port Harcourt, Owerri, Calabar, Enugu, Sokoto, Yola, Jos, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Maiduguri, Gombe, Ilorin, West Africa: Accra, Cotonou, Freetown,
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Arik A330
Well for what it's worth I have never been a quitter - even when the cards were stacked against me - this could be construed as a weekness but I reckon there is strength and resilience in there somewhere too. So to all those at Arik that are sticking around and fighting on - I get you 
and Oba1 - that is not spewed Arik BS....
ps thanks for the ongoing lively debate - its hugely informative
- this could be construed as a weekness but I reckon there is strength and resilience in there somewhere too. So to all those at Arik that are sticking around and fighting on - I get you and Oba1 - that is not spewed Arik BS.... ps thanks for the ongoing lively debate - its hugely informative
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It’s amazing that you talk about not quitting Arik and you believe in the company.
I find it naive but you do have an excuse if you are employed in South Africa where you normal is paid on time.
If you are the person you talk about you would be able to find a better job and you would be a person that would not accept the BS Arik is doing. Furthermore you would never work without payment on time and you will stand up for your profession and not accept a corrupt company pushing you around.
You see that’s a person that fights on and never quit!!
Furthermore it’s sad to see professional pilots having the responsibility for passenger and crew not having the lets say “quality” to stand up for them self’s.
Saying that it’s not a big surprise since flight time limitation was broken on a daily basis when I was employed in the company and nobody had the “quality” to say no!!
I am sorry but Arik is a clown Circus and the big head clown is not the one with the red nose.
You have one guss who has the red nose
I find it naive but you do have an excuse if you are employed in South Africa where you normal is paid on time.
If you are the person you talk about you would be able to find a better job and you would be a person that would not accept the BS Arik is doing. Furthermore you would never work without payment on time and you will stand up for your profession and not accept a corrupt company pushing you around.
You see that’s a person that fights on and never quit!!
Furthermore it’s sad to see professional pilots having the responsibility for passenger and crew not having the lets say “quality” to stand up for them self’s.
Saying that it’s not a big surprise since flight time limitation was broken on a daily basis when I was employed in the company and nobody had the “quality” to say no!!
I am sorry but Arik is a clown Circus and the big head clown is not the one with the red nose.
You have one guss who has the red nose
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Arik Air Cancels Route
http://nigerianaviation.wordpress.com/
"Arik Air has canceled its Abuja to Akure service. Akure Airport is no longer served by any scheduled airline. Other news about Arik Air is that its A330-200 is still impounded and parked at Johannesburg."
The Punch:: Lease payment: Arik Air?s plane impounded in S?Africa
"A court has stopped the FAAN from forcing all domestic airlines, except for Arik Air, to move their operations from the General Aviation Terminal to the MMA2 terminal at Lagos Airport. The Federal Government directed the FAAN to handover GAT to Arik Air for upgrade and exclusive use, but the Airline Operators of Nigeria successfully lodged an appeal against this measure."
I guess Arik Air could pay off the judge, but the cheque would bounce
More bad news. The competition is stepping up:
Air Nigeria is hiring crews for the Airbus A340.
First Nation Airlines, the successor airline to the now defunct Bellview Airlines has been recruiting crews and personnel for B767 and A320 type aircraft...
"Arik Air has canceled its Abuja to Akure service. Akure Airport is no longer served by any scheduled airline. Other news about Arik Air is that its A330-200 is still impounded and parked at Johannesburg."
The Punch:: Lease payment: Arik Air?s plane impounded in S?Africa
"A court has stopped the FAAN from forcing all domestic airlines, except for Arik Air, to move their operations from the General Aviation Terminal to the MMA2 terminal at Lagos Airport. The Federal Government directed the FAAN to handover GAT to Arik Air for upgrade and exclusive use, but the Airline Operators of Nigeria successfully lodged an appeal against this measure."
I guess Arik Air could pay off the judge, but the cheque would bounce
More bad news. The competition is stepping up:
Air Nigeria is hiring crews for the Airbus A340.
First Nation Airlines, the successor airline to the now defunct Bellview Airlines has been recruiting crews and personnel for B767 and A320 type aircraft...
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A330 - Arik
What can I say - you have highlighted and torn apart all of my assumptions, suggestions and my belief in my own professionalism not to mention my solidarity with those that have not been paid. 
Yet despite all of this - the drive and passion to carry on is still there and I know that many of my unpaid collegues feel the same, so in closing I soldier on regardless and if all goes tits up I will be the last one to turn off the lights and lock the door to my office.
Yet despite all of this - the drive and passion to carry on is still there and I know that many of my unpaid collegues feel the same, so in closing I soldier on regardless and if all goes tits up I will be the last one to turn off the lights and lock the door to my office.