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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 18:35
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Airlink promotions

Airlink has recently promoted a few JS41 captains, according to seniority to the respective jet fleets. I hear 4 more are scheduled to join the new ranks this month. 2 to BAE146 and 2 to ERJ135. WELL DONE RF Looks like there is hope yet!
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Old 2nd Apr 2008, 19:12
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good deal

sounds great, but who is flying the JS41's??????

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Old 3rd Apr 2008, 19:18
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Hope indeed

There is hope indeed. Airlink is losing a large number of crew and it's sad to see them go.
Airlink has its problems but it is not a bad place to work for. The reality is all airlines have their problems.
The truth is, not many people want to spend many years on the jetsream, and why should they? since in this current situation pilots are in demand, so if there is a chance to make a carreer move to a place that operates bigger machines then why not.
But if you enjoy flying in an airline environment with a small aircraft into all sorts of conditions with a good bunch of pilots then this may be for you.
Trust me you will learn to fly! and even if Airlink is a stepping stone it will serve you greatly.
The atmosphere is relaxed, friendly and proffesional

see you there
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Old 3rd Apr 2008, 21:47
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MortivFlow,

Please mate, dont try cry on someone's shoulder, Roger doesn't give a **** mate, you are getting fooled by him and his antics, don't try get some poor guy to sign his life away cause now people are getting promoted, there is no career at airlink, finished!!!! the will screw you and leave you stranded!!!

These promotions are just to little too late I am afraid, the damage has been done and people will not stop leaving, look at those that have left, they not senior capts,they the younger guys, people will not stay at link cause of there kak attitude towards employees, but if you there 5 years and earn 40Grand you can't leave even if you want!!!!

GUYS AND GALS WHAT FOR SAX, 1TIME, SAA, MANGO or COMAIR, but please listen to people who have been there done that and STAY AWAY FROM AIRLINK AT ALL COST!!!!!
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buck2rogers69,

Seems like you have quite an opinion...luckily it is yours and not everybody is entitled to your opinion.

There are people who enjoy the kind of flying at Airlink, even on the Jetstream. It beats the crap out of flying contract in some sh!t hole in darkest Africa.

Seems like your sour grapes is turning into a fine whine.
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Old 4th Apr 2008, 08:45
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Promotions

B2R69
you seem very negative, i'd really like to know why. Sure, we're all entitled 2 an opinion but you seem 2 be spitting flames. Seems that someone really p!ssed you off.
Yea the F/O pay @ link is crap, we all hate JVJ and he does things which i'm sure are illegel. But what you're saying is a reflection on your fellow pilots, the guy's you are sharing a cockpit with.
The J41 really teaches you 2 fly. 2 do a visual app doing 240 2 6 is something you'll never do again. (and some pilots have never quite hacked that. Ref. ability 2 fly) And then landing on 03L(ink), turning off @ Lima gives me a kick every time. The big jets are already established by 1000' (min) with the checks complete.

BUT what really p!sses me is when management gets involved. An ERJ F/O was promoted as well...2 instructor nogal. Bugger the J41 drivers. And then she can't even fly! There is a total lack of spacial awareness. 2 all ERJ drivers, BEWARE!!!

Thats why i just prefer 2 get in, do my flying and go home.
I still get a kick out of flying my aeroplane!

B2R69, my point is, Link is what YOU make of it. I've made the best thereof, but I have the impression that:
1 You are one of those that can't fly and are embarrased about it;
2 You have wasted your time @ link by only seeing the negative.

If it is #1, i'm sorry. If it's #2, you will prob experiance the same @ your next employer.

B2R69, smile it could be way worse. You could be co-jo on a van in some african sh!thole.

Congrat's to those 4 that were promoted. Show them what link drivers are made of!
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hahaha, u crack me up fellows, why do 240 to 6Nm when u can do 350 till 8, please man, wake the F&^K up boet!!! IS that now cause you can fly, please, do you have to do this to get into a big airline???

All I was saying is that there are way better options out there in the airlines, think what you want!!! with way better training as well, cause its all on its way down at link with people getting upgraded on all fleets with min experience, not just on the ERJ!!!

Enjoy, we'll meet up one day then you can defend your opinion (and its yours) and mine is mine, but where there is smoke there is fire, AND this has never not been like this!!!!!
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Old 4th Apr 2008, 12:56
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buck2rogers69

Its true what snotneus said. "Link is what YOU make of it"

About doing 240 2 6 or 380 2 8 is not what i meant about being a good pilot. What i meant by learning to fly is the fact that you operate just as much and if not more than most airlines. Just by this type of exposure you will obviously improve on your flying and link can serve you well, thats if you want to use airlink as a stepping stone. (this is not a competition as to see who's the best pilot etc)

Buck, what do you mean by "Roger doesn't give a **** mate, you are getting fooled by him and his antics, don't try get some poor guy to sign his life away cause now people are getting promoted, there is no career at airlink, finished!!!! the will screw you and leave you stranded!!!"?

In my opinion Rodger has never gone back on his word, he has never lied. In fact he has steered Airlink through thick and thin. We have always had our agreed salarys paid on time etc

In fact im sure that RF and JVJ will welcome you with all your wisdom and insight. I dont think you will but i just thought i would mention it

We have a lot to improve on, but in general Airlink is not a bad place to work for.

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As a previous member of Link circus life (would be a great new title for 'SKYWAYS') I have to say you may wish to heed bucks warnings. If you think RF has never lied to you or misguided you then I’m afraid to say that you are still delusional and are guaranteed with time like so many others before you to come to the realisation that you and everyone else at Link are underpaid for the bull you put up with not to mention the lousy conditions.

As for the 240 2 6 what the hell is that about? I’m sure your also capable of doing a Barrel Roll 1A dep. Are you sure the commuting airlines are for you? Think maybe you should be flicking across the skies in a caravan without radar at night in thunderstorms, seems more up your street. There again you possibly the calibre of driver Link can afford or for that matter get nowadays, the good days are gone and so are the people.
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350 till 8 ?

Try that one once with an EU outfit and you'll be sent packing..... in fact with some doing greater than 250 kts below FL100 is going to get you into deep poo! Different world I suppose...
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Old 4th Apr 2008, 16:43
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Thumbs down Sucks!

I have to agree.. Link have 10 resignations this month alone.. so I hear.. Guys on their way all over.. everybody going away! Link going to suffer bigtime.. all RF and JvJ's fault.. Oh and that chic pilot that is now somme a training capt... she went to RF and demanded that she be given the training position.. because there is nobody else!! - bypassed the fleet capt.. and chief pilot.. now we can see who wears the panties! Managment is all pupets... RF talks.. they all jump.. They get called "managment pilots" what a joke!! nobody cares what they say...

Careerpath... what a joke, they do what they want.. they will promote anybody as they feel.. the pilots dont even know what hit them!!

Hear aswell that they are dropping the entry requirments.. now looking for guys and gals below 1000hrsTT... because the highertime pilots know better not to go there...

there are 2 of the 5 JS41 training capt's leaving in the next month or 2!! all gatvol.. only 1ERJ instructor.. now with ass licking chick now also onboard.. now they 2.. for the 146..well thats a seperate clan that dont even mix with the poor JS41 drivers.. apartheid. I also hear the SAFAIR pilots causing lots of problems... always delayed... and complaining about technicals..

I must say I feel sorry for the poor pilots.. mostly good guys.. but you can't teach a old dog new tricks!!

lucky Im not there!!

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Old 4th Apr 2008, 19:03
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"They get called "managment pilots" what a joke!! nobody cares what they say..."

You would do the same if you were in their shoes. After all RF is the boss

Also if you were the only available instructor you would have also been promoted quickly and some idiot will also be saying to you "only 1ERJ instructor.. now with ass licking chick now also onboard.. "

Hey dude, always put yourself in someones shoes before commenting
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Old 4th Apr 2008, 19:48
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put yourself in someones shoes before commenting

no way dude, you cant just say that cos its far from true

now this time realy put yourself in their shoes and you will see that its nothing like a circus

airlink does however need some TLC
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Maybe old RF should merge with Naturelink then RF, Briers and De Klerk can really F^&%k the monkey`s (crew)..he he
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Time will tell!!!!

Even taking cadets onto the embraer, WHY cause noone wants to come anymore, why get hired and sign a 3 year bond when the first one leaves next year!!!!

With regarding 240 2 6 etc, who gives a a **** about that, that really doesn't mean you can poll like some of our Hardcore J41 capt thinks!!!

Stick around with your blinkers on mate and you will see something, JUST REMEMBER THE LONGER YOU STAY EARNING PEANUTS WITH REGARDS TO THE OTHERS THE MORE DIFFICULT IT BECOMES TO LEAVE!!!! OH AND YOU MIGHT FLY A NOISY OLD CLAPPED OUT J41 till you die or have 15000hrs on type, HAHAH
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240 2 6
I thought it had reference to their taxy speed on a populated apron area:
240 Knots - C2 - C6 - C12.....Oh Sh*t, STOP!!!

Link have 10 resignations this month alone..
With another Foreign Airline soon to start recruiting in SA (within weeks), the times for RF will only get seriously tougher. But, there are sure to be other local operators that will also be caught unaware.

Got 2 Love the Global Pilot Shortage...

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Old 5th Apr 2008, 05:44
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regarding "airlink promotions"

Just one observation, that thread of "airlink promotions" seems to be only about the embraer and j41 fleets.
What about the 146 drivers. Are they happy?
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It seems like they are happy although some would like to fly the EMB135 and have a chance to fly the avro RJ
Maybe moving across to the RJ may become possible if they can fly both types, that will be a win for them

At last things are hapening for Airlink (Well done RF)
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With another Foreign Airline soon to start recruiting in SA (within weeks), the times for RF will only get seriously tougher. But, there are sure to be other local operators that will also be caught unaware.

who?

thanks

fly safe
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cadets

Even more news... heard that 5 cadet pilot got the call a week ago to start 1st May at SAA... but link is stopping it!!! they now have to stay!!!

Guess what.. the cadets are the only guys trained to become Captains!!! - RF phone in another favour at SAA.. and now these poor cadets are stuck with Link for a little longer!!!

Link upto their usual crap... I know for a fact that they have stopped lots of pilots from leaving in the past... they phone a few friends.. and BAM.. you dont get the new job because they need u!!!

For all I care link is a waste of time... and will waste your career!! rather go somewhere else... atleast you will fly something that is usefull in the future!

MOO

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