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8 Resignations active at the moment. 1 J41 F/O, 2 EMB145 captains, 4 J41 captains incliding 1 training captain and 1 BAE146 captain who happens to be the chief pilot. RF, are you still not getting it that your dear mate who 
over aiways, SAX and Mauritius is having his way with you? Do the words "Track record" bear any meaning in your vocabulary?
Maybe he could have saved nationwide. Should have given him the chance!
You could!!! Yes you could still give him the chance!!!!
over aiways, SAX and Mauritius is having his way with you? Do the words "Track record" bear any meaning in your vocabulary?Maybe he could have saved nationwide. Should have given him the chance!
You could!!! Yes you could still give him the chance!!!!
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Hello there all. I mean ALL, that includes VortexGen300, (AKA RF) (AKA CEO).
One has to go back a few years to understand where and why Link is where it is today.
The late Richard Charter was instrumental in starting Airlink. He was THE MAN in the British arms deal with SA. He also was in a position to obtain Jetstreams from the arms company and be the agent in SA.
He was "a business man". (His integrity/marals are not discussed, here) He made money. Lots of it.
The current senior management at Link believe they too are exceptional businessmen. In the league of Richard Branson
and Richard Charter. Lots of Richards involved.....
The leader at Airlink wants money. NOTHING else! No legacy. Not a place to aspire to work for etc. Money.
He has decided that total hands-on (his hands) with all decision making must be his. He has further decided that the most money can be made by paying the least possible amount in salaries.
Hence, the previous mentioned string which states that for 1 F/O he can get 3 or 4 Cadets. For some of the senior Captains he can get two junior Captains!
To ensure that people do NOT stay on at Link, and grow larger salaries, he makes the working conditions barely tenable. Just enough to constantly recruit new people.(Not just crew)
Now for some VERY bizarre reason, he has decided that ALL the great business leaders with their styles and their tried and tested schools of business methods, do not work to get the most profit for himself.(and the shareholders)
The philosophies of business that state that a high turnover of staff is bad for the bottom line, simply just don't apply to Link. He has worked this all out, in detail.
RF fired N Kroucamp for commercial reasons. RF fired L.V.E. for commercial reasons. RF will fire the next head of the union too, because he can!
RF knows the law in SA means nothing anymore. So what if it's against the labour law? Sue me!
RF does NOT like a happy work force, because then they might stay- and demand higher salaries/working conditions and A LIFE!!
The last few years are not without very deliberate design from him(RF).He has eventually now, got the pilot body to be where he has always wanted them. This is how he will make the most profit. Hence, JVJ. And JVJ is his AxMan, by special appointment.
JVJ is going to fire a pilot in the very near future, to prove his strength. Read: "Don't wiff me"!
Guys and girls, be very wary………
One has to go back a few years to understand where and why Link is where it is today.
The late Richard Charter was instrumental in starting Airlink. He was THE MAN in the British arms deal with SA. He also was in a position to obtain Jetstreams from the arms company and be the agent in SA.
He was "a business man". (His integrity/marals are not discussed, here) He made money. Lots of it.
The current senior management at Link believe they too are exceptional businessmen. In the league of Richard Branson
and Richard Charter. Lots of Richards involved.....
The leader at Airlink wants money. NOTHING else! No legacy. Not a place to aspire to work for etc. Money.
He has decided that total hands-on (his hands) with all decision making must be his. He has further decided that the most money can be made by paying the least possible amount in salaries.
Hence, the previous mentioned string which states that for 1 F/O he can get 3 or 4 Cadets. For some of the senior Captains he can get two junior Captains!
To ensure that people do NOT stay on at Link, and grow larger salaries, he makes the working conditions barely tenable. Just enough to constantly recruit new people.(Not just crew)
Now for some VERY bizarre reason, he has decided that ALL the great business leaders with their styles and their tried and tested schools of business methods, do not work to get the most profit for himself.(and the shareholders)
The philosophies of business that state that a high turnover of staff is bad for the bottom line, simply just don't apply to Link. He has worked this all out, in detail.
RF fired N Kroucamp for commercial reasons. RF fired L.V.E. for commercial reasons. RF will fire the next head of the union too, because he can!
RF knows the law in SA means nothing anymore. So what if it's against the labour law? Sue me!
RF does NOT like a happy work force, because then they might stay- and demand higher salaries/working conditions and A LIFE!!
The last few years are not without very deliberate design from him(RF).He has eventually now, got the pilot body to be where he has always wanted them. This is how he will make the most profit. Hence, JVJ. And JVJ is his AxMan, by special appointment.
JVJ is going to fire a pilot in the very near future, to prove his strength. Read: "Don't
wiff me"!Guys and girls, be very wary………
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Hey Techman12, there are a lot of differences between NW and Link. For one, and very importantly, the people you fly with~ including the training pilots, are all damn fine and PLEASANT to fly with. You don't go to work thinking, "Sh one Tee, I really don't need today with him or her". There are NOT many airlines on this planet that can rightfully say so. There are plenty of "Proper Airlines", where the guys HATE going to fly. But the loot and 'types' keep their ego's stroked. Your soul for the devil? Worth it? I think not!
Link is very far from perfect, but it has some very curious virtues.
Link is very far from perfect, but it has some very curious virtues.
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Curious but let me retire to the side and drink a glass or 2 or 3 or . . . .
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Champagne Lover - Thanks for the insight.
I am truely amazed at the stories and issues going around. There are so much hatred, aggression, discontention towards the boss. I am sure he is high up on a hit list of some sort somewhere?
308GT4 - Your insight about the people.
Now it makes one jealous to hear such nice things about the crews. One just wonders how long it will last - looking at the bad vibe the 'boss' stirrs amongst the people?
I was wrong in my evaluation of the situation at Nationwide - really thought they would pull it through. Now in fear of being wrong again - I am going to sit back and listen and read and become a "wise old fart" - Listening and reading twice as much as talk!
I sure hope I am right this time that the people at Link will turn it around before it is too late - but that is my hope. Good friends of mine went through there and are still there. One guy got "bailed" out when the company they flew for dumped them some years back.
Not stirring now?
VG300
Champagne Lover - Thanks for the insight.
I am truely amazed at the stories and issues going around. There are so much hatred, aggression, discontention towards the boss. I am sure he is high up on a hit list of some sort somewhere?
308GT4 - Your insight about the people.
Now it makes one jealous to hear such nice things about the crews. One just wonders how long it will last - looking at the bad vibe the 'boss' stirrs amongst the people?
I was wrong in my evaluation of the situation at Nationwide - really thought they would pull it through. Now in fear of being wrong again - I am going to sit back and listen and read and become a "wise old fart" - Listening and reading twice as much as talk!
I sure hope I am right this time that the people at Link will turn it around before it is too late - but that is my hope. Good friends of mine went through there and are still there. One guy got "bailed" out when the company they flew for dumped them some years back.
Not stirring now?
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"Live roster"
Well, well. Now bend over and don't forget the K.Y.
Boys & girls, if we don't stand up against this pr1ck, J.V.J, NOW we can all just go back 2 charter. At least we'll be able to plan some sort of life.
This "policy" is a load of B S.
So one sided.
We have no rights what so ever except that we have the right to decline flying of our off days. (Now if I can just get that fat useless pig to stop calling me on every off day.)
Please SOLIDARITY get an interdict against link + stop them implementing one sided policy changes (ie. unilateral change of working conditions).
Can someone at SAA please correct me but didn't the devil (jvj) try this there?
Please Solidarity we need your balls back.
I say lets strike. I need some toy-toy lessons first though.
I'm really gatfol. Never in all my time at link have I felt as disgusted as I did this morning when I read this insulting new "policy".
Can't wait for VG300 (the boss) insightful responce. With your positive attitude you are obviuos not affected by this cr@p.
Boys & girls, if we don't stand up against this pr1ck, J.V.J, NOW we can all just go back 2 charter. At least we'll be able to plan some sort of life.
This "policy" is a load of B
S.So one sided.
We have no rights what so ever except that we have the right to decline flying of our off days. (Now if I can just get that fat useless pig to stop calling me on every off day.)
Please SOLIDARITY get an interdict against link + stop them implementing one sided policy changes (ie. unilateral change of working conditions).
Can someone at SAA please correct me but didn't the devil (jvj) try this there?
Please Solidarity we need your balls back.
I say lets strike. I need some toy-toy lessons first though.
I'm really gatfol. Never in all my time at link have I felt as disgusted as I did this morning when I read this insulting new "policy".
Can't wait for VG300 (the boss) insightful responce. With your positive attitude you are obviuos not affected by this cr@p.
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You actually don`t have the right to refuse to fly on your day off! I stand to be corrected but i read that you can only refuse to fly on an off day if its a legally-required off day(ie 1 in 7,2 in 14).If its just an off day you are supposed to be at their beck & call.Lads, its time for a serious cell-phones-off attitude i`m afraid....If you don`t..all is lost and its harsh to say,but you deserve all you get(bend over some more and open a little w-i-d-e-r
).This "policy" is total b ll s t. It had to be implemented with the consent of the union(according to the deal signed last year when we all nearly went on strike).IF the union have given this "policy" the nod then I have two observations: The union need their arse kicked and....May the Great Aviator in the sky have mercy on Airlink pilots`.
. The guys & girls are slowly accepting the "career-path" such as it is,then jvj comes up with this abortion of a plan.RF please note THIS will be the start of another exodus from the sinking ship. My God..the arrogance and stupidity.................it beggars belief
).This "policy" is total b ll s t. It had to be implemented with the consent of the union(according to the deal signed last year when we all nearly went on strike).IF the union have given this "policy" the nod then I have two observations: The union need their arse kicked and....May the Great Aviator in the sky have mercy on Airlink pilots`.. The guys & girls are slowly accepting the "career-path" such as it is,then jvj comes up with this abortion of a plan.RF please note THIS will be the start of another exodus from the sinking ship. My God..the arrogance and stupidity.................it beggars belief
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If they think that I am going to comply with this stupid policy they can fire me. I WILL NOT COMPLY!!! JVJ go with yourself.(Or with that stupid ops cronie of yours) I understand that the normal process the union has to follow will take 2 to 3 months.This is not good enough. Give us a strike certificate!! For anything. You poor fools joining link now. How sorry I feel for you. How very very sorry I feel for you. Do any of you even know the finer details of your bond you will have to sign. You will be stuck here for 3 years. The name should change from "SA Airlink (PTY) Limited" to "The Bitches of JVJ (PTY) unlimited" This includes you RF. You're so numb you don't even feel it anymore. Carry on. You think the 10 resignations you got this month is the last of it. Carry on and see. Even your hard core link guys are talking of leaving now. Contrary to your letter on the board. Comair might have lost 26% of their pilots in the last year but you are sitting a lot closer to 50% now. And Airlink is no Comair. Don't you even dare to try and put yourself in the same league as the Novic's. They look after their most valuable assets. Not your motto, is it!
with yourself.(Or with that stupid ops cronie of yours) I understand that the normal process the union has to follow will take 2 to 3 months.This is not good enough. Give us a strike certificate!! For anything. You poor fools joining link now. How sorry I feel for you. How very very sorry I feel for you. Do any of you even know the finer details of your bond you will have to sign. You will be stuck here for 3 years. The name should change from "SA Airlink (PTY) Limited" to "The Bitches of JVJ (PTY) unlimited" This includes you RF. You're so numb you don't even feel it anymore. Carry on. You think the 10 resignations you got this month is the last of it. Carry on and see. Even your hard core link guys are talking of leaving now. Contrary to your letter on the board. Comair might have lost 26% of their pilots in the last year but you are sitting a lot closer to 50% now. And Airlink is no Comair. Don't you even dare to try and put yourself in the same league as the Novic's. They look after their most valuable assets. Not your motto, is it!
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Airlink's new duty policy
I would like to QUOTE the new policy regarding Off Days. "5.1 Crew scheduled "Day Off" during any roster period will not be required to complete active duty on that day nor can the scheduled roster be changed from Day Off to active duty other than what is stipulated in 4.2. (4.2 Crew are not to plan any private appointments on a scheduled duty day.) 5.2 Crew scheduled Day Off can be changed to a Duty Day if it is not a legal Off Day by the Roster Office or JNB Operations, PROVIDED THAT THE CREW MEMBER AGREES TO ASSIST THE COMPANY IN THIS CHANGE. Alternative Day Off will be given to the Crew by the Roster Office. 5.3 Crew WILLING to fly on his/her off day will be compensated with double S&T." Which part of this exactly do you not understand? It makes perfect sense NOT to plan private events on a duty day, considering the possiblilty of delays. As to being forced to work on an Off Day, does it not CLEARLY state in 5.2 "provided that the crew member agrees to assist the company"? Your level of education has evidently left you unequipped with the rudiments of comprehension. Perhaps you should rather be working in someone's garden, because if you cannot grasp the basics I fear for the lives of your passengers.
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Madam,'it makes perfect sense not to plan private events on a duty day...'.
Are you stark raving barking mad? This is an AIRLINE (well..it tries to project that image and indeed markets itself as such)it operates on schedules.Pilots get Rosters.I have every right to make an appointment for after my scheduled,rostered work is done.Its called LIFE (i`m not sure who the agents in Gauteng are for this wonderful product-but i respectfully suggest you GET ONE).And before you make an inane comment about technicals etc,YES I KNOW A/C BREAK DOWN.I ACCEPT THAT.I WILL DEAL WITH THAT.But to suggest crew plan (well...how can they
?)around an Airlines incompetence,staff shortages(sorry,but whose fault is that?)and generally chaotic operating is absolutely ridiculous.I`m afraid the companys tearful handwringing about pilot shortages is laughable-i don`t see Comair,Sax etc spiralling into this shambles.Sure they are looking for crew like everyone else-but they are`nt really battling too much to fill pilot positions are they? Funny,that......Anyway,back to your sun-filled meadow where bunnies,puppies and butterflies play gleefully alongside the picket fence that you obviously inhabit when you can`t deal with reality.If you are a pilot(?
)then you are one of the dangerous new breeds of newly-minted products of the "oh,i`m so happy to get an airline job-i`ll do anything to please my boss" schools.Dangerous? well,cosider your attitude-the" i`ll do anything for this company" syndrome your post seems to suggest you suffer from.'...i fear for the lives of your passengers'.Well,you may fear that the pax don`t go due to crew that are mature enough to book off sick when they are not fit to fly,nor alert enough due to fatigue to deal with an engine failure or fire on take-off at max weight out of Jhb on a hot summers day.No,i guess that does`nt enter your head,does it? Just another 1000 hr inexperienced pilot who now suddenly knows all about Airline flying and life because they were an instructor at the ACME school of aviating in Coffiefontein or they did a 'tour of duty' in some shthole in Africa in a van.Yes,you are the type that jvj and RF need to continue with the shambles-then they don`t need to fix it,do they?Grow up.Of course you have the right to make private appointments. You have the right to switch your cell phone off.You have the right to book off sick,not fly a/c you and your crew are not happy with,not to be phoned at one o`clock in the morning,not to have your roster changed/mangled/generally fed with by incompetent staff with no regard to your LIFE (remember that little thing....)and the list go`s on and on and on.RF said 'he was disapointed pilots chose to air their "dirty laundry" on pprune'...well what does he want us to do?Biscuits and hot chocolate next to the fire with himself and jvj? RF had one meeting once with the pilots ,a real 'let-me-have-it'meeting.It was great.Another one?It was asked for.Response from management? I think it must have been 'INCOMING!TAKE COVER BEHIND THE DESKS MEN-THOSE BLOODY INTERFERRING PILOTS WANT A MEETING!MY GOD,THEY MAY WANT US TO ACTUALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS'
.So.....dirty laundry,we have`nt even started
.(and,last but not least-i sincerely apologise in advance for comments about 1000 hr inexperienced newbies-I truly do not intend any insult at all.just for illustrative purposes only-but those types i mentioned are out there-they are coming to an Airline near you soon....
Are you stark raving barking mad? This is an AIRLINE (well..it tries to project that image and indeed markets itself as such)it operates on schedules.Pilots get Rosters.I have every right to make an appointment for after my scheduled,rostered work is done.Its called LIFE (i`m not sure who the agents in Gauteng are for this wonderful product-but i respectfully suggest you GET ONE).And before you make an inane comment about technicals etc,YES I KNOW A/C BREAK DOWN.I ACCEPT THAT.I WILL DEAL WITH THAT.But to suggest crew plan (well...how can they
?)around an Airlines incompetence,staff shortages(sorry,but whose fault is that?)and generally chaotic operating is absolutely ridiculous.I`m afraid the companys tearful handwringing about pilot shortages is laughable-i don`t see Comair,Sax etc spiralling into this shambles.Sure they are looking for crew like everyone else-but they are`nt really battling too much to fill pilot positions are they? Funny,that......Anyway,back to your sun-filled meadow where bunnies,puppies and butterflies play gleefully alongside the picket fence that you obviously inhabit when you can`t deal with reality.If you are a pilot(?)then you are one of the dangerous new breeds of newly-minted products of the "oh,i`m so happy to get an airline job-i`ll do anything to please my boss" schools.Dangerous? well,cosider your attitude-the" i`ll do anything for this company" syndrome your post seems to suggest you suffer from.'...i fear for the lives of your passengers'.Well,you may fear that the pax don`t go due to crew that are mature enough to book off sick when they are not fit to fly,nor alert enough due to fatigue to deal with an engine failure or fire on take-off at max weight out of Jhb on a hot summers day.No,i guess that does`nt enter your head,does it? Just another 1000 hr inexperienced pilot who now suddenly knows all about Airline flying and life because they were an instructor at the ACME school of aviating in Coffiefontein or they did a 'tour of duty' in some shthole in Africa in a van.Yes,you are the type that jvj and RF need to continue with the shambles-then they don`t need to fix it,do they?Grow up.Of course you have the right to make private appointments. You have the right to switch your cell phone off.You have the right to book off sick,not fly a/c you and your crew are not happy with,not to be phoned at one o`clock in the morning,not to have your roster changed/mangled/generally fed with by incompetent staff with no regard to your LIFE (remember that little thing....)and the list go`s on and on and on.RF said 'he was disapointed pilots chose to air their "dirty laundry" on pprune'...well what does he want us to do?Biscuits and hot chocolate next to the fire with himself and jvj? RF had one meeting once with the pilots ,a real 'let-me-have-it'meeting.It was great.Another one?It was asked for.Response from management? I think it must have been 'INCOMING!TAKE COVER BEHIND THE DESKS MEN-THOSE BLOODY INTERFERRING PILOTS WANT A MEETING!MY GOD,THEY MAY WANT US TO ACTUALLY ANSWER QUESTIONS'.So.....dirty laundry,we have`nt even started.(and,last but not least-i sincerely apologise in advance for comments about 1000 hr inexperienced newbies-I truly do not intend any insult at all.just for illustrative purposes only-but those types i mentioned are out there-they are coming to an Airline near you soon....
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I’m sure that in most cases an inability to help out on an off day would be a mark against ones name, a definite candidate for a list of trouble makers. Therefore, one is actually on standby on this day in order to preserve his or her reputation and not off and therefore, should be rescheduled for a legal off day of 1 in 7 or 2 in 14, after such a day of standby so that one can relax properly without harassment and regain enthusiasm for his company and job. Come on ops, you can’t have your cake and eat it. Are they off, or on standby. It seems all you actually doing is listing a pilot as ‘off’ but using him as a standby pilot in order to reduce duty times.
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Now isn't it just silly to assume that I meant technical delays? What about WEATHER? I know of no airline capable of controlling weather, and wouldn't it just be plain thick to actually plan a hot date with some bimbo when you end up getting stuck somewhere in bad weather and risk the wrath of the bimbo - or rather being ditched by the bimbo? My reasoning is simply based on good, experienced aviation technique, i.e. HAVE A BACK UP PLAN!!!! Do you understand the concept? As for "getting a life". I have a life, I plan my days off, and I do not work on those days. Period. Duty days are just that. In any other job there may also be a crisis that requires one to work late. Have the maturity to deal with that. Also, take a step back and consider just who you are addressing. You have absolutely no idea what my curriculim vitae looks like, so why are you treating me with such disdain? With maturity comes the wisdom to refrain from being judgmental. Your hysteria is indicative of either immaturity or mental instability. Perhaps you are the one that should not be flying.
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Name-calling? Grow up .And any one who has experience inaviation would understand that in the context i said 'technicals' would comprehend that it would encompass technicals,ATC delays,wx etc etc.It does not,however,take into account poor planning,lack of staff etc etc.I will not disrupt my life for those things that are totally controllable. As for your days off ,do you really have that much faith in this company to give you your day off without bothering you or are you one of the 'phone-me-anytime'types that keeps the chaos moving along?
The scary thing is I`M one of the more positive pilots at Airlink.......
Discussion ended with you-I have intelligent conversations,not name-calling,infantile,"mines-bigger-than-yours" arguements.
Have a nice day
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Just A Job. Let's give credit where it is due. Judging by this socalled madam's linguistic ability, I am positive that it can not be jvj, his idiot sidekick in ops nor the chief pilot. Could it be one of those fly on their day off pilots? I don't think so. Somebody in management? Must be. Could he/she have taught english in the past? Is it possible that rf has finally decided to join in on a public rumour network? I doubt it, but if it is you rf, WELCOME!!!! My point is this: Should you try to call me on my off day,(or even just when I am just not on duty) I suspect that you might find the conversation rather monolithic. Should you try to make me fly after my rostered duty, we might just find ourselver in the boardroom testing the disscplinary protocol.To put it as plainly as possible, YOU CAN GO AND F YOURSELF!
YOURSELF!
