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All within limits of safety and the law however-in the long term the company will not profit by streching the limits as the record will go public one way or the other.
The extacy of that first airline job does not last long at link.
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link needs pilots.. and lots of them.. heard the other day that they have guys that got the thumbs up during the interview.. but Doc Horn dont have open times to help the pilots for Psycos.. maby he knows also to stay ways??
So what does link do... they wait.. and wait.. pilots are leaving... but they wait... cleaver..
If I was link I would employ 50 pilots at once, outsource the training and Bam.. but who am I, remember nobody really cares there anyway..
The countdown timer has started... ETA.. soon..boom mushroom. then we will see them cancelling more flight.. or as they put it.. combining flights.. like the MalaMala flights.. Aerie leaves JHB to do Nelspruit and back... but a small change in plan.. on the way wack go via MalaMala to pick up some more pax.. like a Taxi.. yet the poor pax leaving Nelspruit for Jhb dont even know about the Unplanned detour... the pilots only got informed at signon anyway... Circius!!
My advice for any charter pilot that wants to join the airlink.. its not an airline.. just a big charter operation.. rather go to nationwide.. atleast u will earn more... and fly something that can loose an engine and still make it back safely... even if its 30year old...
So what does link do... they wait.. and wait.. pilots are leaving... but they wait... cleaver..
If I was link I would employ 50 pilots at once, outsource the training and Bam.. but who am I, remember nobody really cares there anyway..
The countdown timer has started... ETA.. soon..boom mushroom. then we will see them cancelling more flight.. or as they put it.. combining flights.. like the MalaMala flights.. Aerie leaves JHB to do Nelspruit and back... but a small change in plan.. on the way wack go via MalaMala to pick up some more pax.. like a Taxi.. yet the poor pax leaving Nelspruit for Jhb dont even know about the Unplanned detour... the pilots only got informed at signon anyway... Circius!!
My advice for any charter pilot that wants to join the airlink.. its not an airline.. just a big charter operation.. rather go to nationwide.. atleast u will earn more... and fly something that can loose an engine and still make it back safely... even if its 30year old...
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Aerie leaves JHB to do Nelspruit and back... but a small change in plan.. on the way wack go via MalaMala to pick up some more pax.. like a Taxi..
My advice for any charter pilot that wants to join the airlink.. its not an airline.. just a big charter operation..
My advice for any charter pilot that wants to join the airlink.. its not an airline.. just a big charter operation..
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Onwards to Ryanair
From a jetstream captain's mouth. He just got offered a job at Ryanair. Fast track command on a 738( after 500 hours P2). The world is surely opening up!
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He just got offered a job at Ryanair...The world is surely opening up!
Ryanair to ground around 20 aircraft this winter
By Vicky Moores
Irish budget carrier Ryanair is planning to ground around 20 aircraft this winter to counter the impact of spiralling fuel costs. Ryanair is embarking on an intensive cost-cutting drive for its 2008-09 financial year as its fuel costs threaten to widen by €300 million ($474.5 million), pushing its profits down by up to 50%.
Speaking during the French Connect Low Cost Forum in Courchevel, Ryanair deputy CEO Michael Cawley warned of tough conditions to come this winter.
He says: “This winter is going to be very difficult. We will put 20 aircraft on the ground for the winter because it’s more profitable. We would just lose a lot of money [operating them], burning fuel.”
The carrier grounded seven of its 40 aircraft at London Stansted during the winter just completed, saying increased airport charges made it more profitable to ground the aircraft during the winter than to operate them.
By Vicky Moores
Irish budget carrier Ryanair is planning to ground around 20 aircraft this winter to counter the impact of spiralling fuel costs. Ryanair is embarking on an intensive cost-cutting drive for its 2008-09 financial year as its fuel costs threaten to widen by €300 million ($474.5 million), pushing its profits down by up to 50%.
Speaking during the French Connect Low Cost Forum in Courchevel, Ryanair deputy CEO Michael Cawley warned of tough conditions to come this winter.
He says: “This winter is going to be very difficult. We will put 20 aircraft on the ground for the winter because it’s more profitable. We would just lose a lot of money [operating them], burning fuel.”
The carrier grounded seven of its 40 aircraft at London Stansted during the winter just completed, saying increased airport charges made it more profitable to ground the aircraft during the winter than to operate them.
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Ryan Air A/C Grounded?
Well we are now approaching the European Summer - so soon that 500 hours will be flown.
Go for it -
Eish - I wish it was me - earning in Euro or GBP will surely change my situation - yes I know the cost of living in those parts are higher - but so are the salaries!
VG300
Go for it -
Eish - I wish it was me - earning in Euro or GBP will surely change my situation - yes I know the cost of living in those parts are higher - but so are the salaries!
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yip europe companies looking for js41 driver.. and THEY will pay for you JAR licence (about 10 000pounds incl books and sim..) providing you sign a training bond with them for 3 years.. soos good to me.. easy way of getting into europe..
Ryanair is the lowcost version of link in europe.. but easyjet and bmi also slowly opeing up.. more link pilots on their way across there soon..
validation valid for 1year but you have all the suppost of getting your JAR licence.. not like our silly CAA..
Ryanair is the lowcost version of link in europe.. but easyjet and bmi also slowly opeing up.. more link pilots on their way across there soon..
validation valid for 1year but you have all the suppost of getting your JAR licence.. not like our silly CAA..
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JS41 PARKED end of month
NEWS JUST IN!!
Airlink confirmed that they will be parking a Jetstream 41 the end of the month!! Not enough crew!! and cant find qualified crew to fly for them!!
average of 10-15pilots leaving a month, mostly captains.. hardly any employements..
do your calcalations.. Link is sinking... like RF's boat..glugglug..
This is the first aerie to be parked.. more to follow in the near future..
also hear that they are trying to get some of Naturelink pilots.. the guys/gals that are are rated on the E145's.. which they will never get.. similar to the E135.. they are trying to to save sim and precious time$$
Airlink confirmed that they will be parking a Jetstream 41 the end of the month!! Not enough crew!! and cant find qualified crew to fly for them!!
average of 10-15pilots leaving a month, mostly captains.. hardly any employements..
do your calcalations.. Link is sinking... like RF's boat..glugglug..
This is the first aerie to be parked.. more to follow in the near future..
also hear that they are trying to get some of Naturelink pilots.. the guys/gals that are are rated on the E145's.. which they will never get.. similar to the E135.. they are trying to to save sim and precious time$$
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hear that they are trying to get some of Naturelink pilots
bunch of idiots. As for the NatureLink guys, careful thats getting pretty close to crossing the picket lines - you doing an injustice to the aviation industry by stepping in.
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Airlink?
I have to say I don't know the company and the only "contact" I have is that my AB-Initio Instructor is/was working there (I lost contact with him) and another friend who recently started with them.
I am just a bit worried - if Link were so bad - why have they been able to stay in business - might only be by the sheath of there pants but still?
If they were so bad why did all the guys/girls go there in the first place?
Well maybe it was the guys/girls that needed a stepping stone - a place to get into the system? Now they are moving on - and now suddenly instead of being honest and saying it was a stepping stone they are trying to make it out as if Link were the "culprits"? Well it may even be that management discovered this years ago - and started to operate accordingly. (low pay, training bonds, rostering) Why should it be that the guys that link are compared to not have the same trouble or problems. Well it might just be that they are all operating aircraft that are not percieved as stepping stones and therefore less prone to loose staff as fast as Link.
Employees have problems with management at airlines and other industries all over the show - often because of rapid growth and stubborness on both patries side and problems associated with the operation of the industry -
Dare I say often it is also because of employees not being honest about their own expectations (like "I see Link as a stepping stone" but trying to convince the interview party that they see Link as their ultimate place to work) and then to try and save face - all sorts of problems (real as well as percieved and stirred) are used as the suposed cause of a termination of a relation.
I must say I am awed by the fact that the management from Link are not getting into this debate - maybe they are just in a tight spot
I will agree that working conditions might be bad at some places (but read the threads elsewhere where crew were flying up to 200+ hours in 30 days just to keep the wheels running - says something about there commitment to their job) - however the conditions will not be altered by aggressively discouraging people to to work there - it will only become worse -
So when one has an issue with management - sort it out - or if you percieve it as impossible to resolve - leave them - but why make it misirable for everyone left behind?
I am of the opinion that this might just come back and bite the specific attitude.
Something to think about? or have I missed something obvious?
Stirred
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I am just a bit worried - if Link were so bad - why have they been able to stay in business - might only be by the sheath of there pants but still?
If they were so bad why did all the guys/girls go there in the first place?
Well maybe it was the guys/girls that needed a stepping stone - a place to get into the system? Now they are moving on - and now suddenly instead of being honest and saying it was a stepping stone they are trying to make it out as if Link were the "culprits"? Well it may even be that management discovered this years ago - and started to operate accordingly. (low pay, training bonds, rostering) Why should it be that the guys that link are compared to not have the same trouble or problems. Well it might just be that they are all operating aircraft that are not percieved as stepping stones and therefore less prone to loose staff as fast as Link.
Employees have problems with management at airlines and other industries all over the show - often because of rapid growth and stubborness on both patries side and problems associated with the operation of the industry -
Dare I say often it is also because of employees not being honest about their own expectations (like "I see Link as a stepping stone" but trying to convince the interview party that they see Link as their ultimate place to work) and then to try and save face - all sorts of problems (real as well as percieved and stirred) are used as the suposed cause of a termination of a relation.
I must say I am awed by the fact that the management from Link are not getting into this debate - maybe they are just in a tight spot
I will agree that working conditions might be bad at some places (but read the threads elsewhere where crew were flying up to 200+ hours in 30 days just to keep the wheels running - says something about there commitment to their job) - however the conditions will not be altered by aggressively discouraging people to to work there - it will only become worse -
So when one has an issue with management - sort it out - or if you percieve it as impossible to resolve - leave them - but why make it misirable for everyone left behind?
I am of the opinion that this might just come back and bite the specific attitude.
Something to think about? or have I missed something obvious?
Stirred
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Dear RF!
Dear RF. Thank you for the letter posted on the board. 
You make some valid points. I especially like the part about the previous link drivers in contact with you stating that link was great. That is the current drivers' view as well. It is just that that is changing very fast hence the turmoil at the moment. We( Yes, I speak on behalf of many!!!-but not all
) would like to have the same view in the future. It is not going to be the case if YOUR right hand man keeps on upsetting the applecart the way he does. We would like to share this with you in person. It is just that you are not listening to us. Nor your chief pilot(Wish he was ours as well). Never around and we never hear from him. We also want link to be a great place. The way it used to be. It is ultimately in your hands. Most of us are just pasing through. You determine how fast!
You make some valid points. I especially like the part about the previous link drivers in contact with you stating that link was great. That is the current drivers' view as well. It is just that that is changing very fast hence the turmoil at the moment. We( Yes, I speak on behalf of many!!!-but not all) would like to have the same view in the future. It is not going to be the case if YOUR right hand man keeps on upsetting the applecart the way he does. We would like to share this with you in person. It is just that you are not listening to us. Nor your chief pilot(Wish he was ours as well). Never around and we never hear from him. We also want link to be a great place. The way it used to be. It is ultimately in your hands. Most of us are just pasing through. You determine how fast!
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I agree.. Link use to be a nice company.. Link managment must get their act together..
here are some of my recomendations..
1. Use the career path... dont bypass pilots.. and dont LOOK for loop holes.. just honour the basic rule.. according to the list.. no shortcuts..
2. Honour the guys that never call in sick..
3. stop putting stuiped letters on the board.. post them here for everybody to read.. so that the non-link (future to be) pilots know what they are letting them in for..
4. Give the chief pilot an office job.. like all the other airlines.. so that the pilots can actually meet him... (yip some dont even know how he looks!!)
5. stop taking pilots money for training bonds..
6 and don't OVERWORK your pilots!!! 1000hrs on the JS41 per year... thats a no-no... give them more time off like the other airlines!
Then Link would be what it use to be! , so RF and JvJ.. We are waiting for your reply.. now that we know we have your attention.
here are some of my recomendations..
1. Use the career path... dont bypass pilots.. and dont LOOK for loop holes.. just honour the basic rule.. according to the list.. no shortcuts..
2. Honour the guys that never call in sick..
3. stop putting stuiped letters on the board.. post them here for everybody to read.. so that the non-link (future to be) pilots know what they are letting them in for..
4. Give the chief pilot an office job.. like all the other airlines.. so that the pilots can actually meet him... (yip some dont even know how he looks!!)
5. stop taking pilots money for training bonds..
6 and don't OVERWORK your pilots!!! 1000hrs on the JS41 per year... thats a no-no... give them more time off like the other airlines!
Then Link would be what it use to be! , so RF and JvJ.. We are waiting for your reply.. now that we know we have your attention.
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Dear Taxilight . . .
Hi there
I am glad you want to seem me in the position you propose - maybe I would do a better job than the guy you think I am ?
(Can you actually offer me the position - without an interview?)
On second thoughts, although I'm not a 20 something wanabee but someone with quite some life experience, I don't have enough experience in aviation management to venture into such an undertaking - if you have read my posts elsewhere on dubious practises in Africa....
I just don't see the point of guys working for a company, complaining about conditions, and then actively discouraging others to work for the said company, while that will be the only way their conditions might stand a chance to improve.
Maybe the issue should be - how can I improve conditions for me and other guys working here? But then again that will require me to be a team player and that seems to be beyond the scope of normal activity of the average pilot that I am.
But then again the more guys running away the more opportunities there will be for others?
Greetings
VG300
I am glad you want to seem me in the position you propose - maybe I would do a better job than the guy you think I am ?
(Can you actually offer me the position - without an interview?)On second thoughts, although I'm not a 20 something wanabee but someone with quite some life experience, I don't have enough experience in aviation management to venture into such an undertaking - if you have read my posts elsewhere on dubious practises in Africa....
I just don't see the point of guys working for a company, complaining about conditions, and then actively discouraging others to work for the said company, while that will be the only way their conditions might stand a chance to improve.
Maybe the issue should be - how can I improve conditions for me and other guys working here? But then again that will require me to be a team player and that seems to be beyond the scope of normal activity of the average pilot that I am.
But then again the more guys running away the more opportunities there will be for others?
Greetings
VG300
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VortexGen,
You have missed something obvious, cause you must be blind or deaf, it may be a steppinng stone, BUT does that make it right for them to screw one. Most of the opinions that are voiced here are actual concern shown with regards to ones career and the long term serviving of Airlink!!! People ae saying that the wheels are coming off, ie it will close down if it continues like this!!!!!
Being a stepping stone airline surelly does not mean that you around for a few years and close down does it?? Am i missing something??
I think its fine if they want to be a steeping stone, BUT just becareful that you dont get stepped on so many times that the stone wares through, cause then it is over, and I am afraid LInk really needs to change a few things to stop people stepping on this thing at a rapid rate, cause it is almost done!!
And 1 last thing, its not only the JS41 guys that fly hard fellow, the ERJ guys are also doing there 950hrs a year!!!
You have missed something obvious, cause you must be blind or deaf, it may be a steppinng stone, BUT does that make it right for them to screw one. Most of the opinions that are voiced here are actual concern shown with regards to ones career and the long term serviving of Airlink!!! People ae saying that the wheels are coming off, ie it will close down if it continues like this!!!!!
Being a stepping stone airline surelly does not mean that you around for a few years and close down does it?? Am i missing something??
I think its fine if they want to be a steeping stone, BUT just becareful that you dont get stepped on so many times that the stone wares through, cause then it is over, and I am afraid LInk really needs to change a few things to stop people stepping on this thing at a rapid rate, cause it is almost done!!
And 1 last thing, its not only the JS41 guys that fly hard fellow, the ERJ guys are also doing there 950hrs a year!!!
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eish: You need to go and read up on the airlaw.
Vortexgen. I don't think taxilight's comment is aimed at you. There really is a letter on the board from RF. He/she might just be aimimng it at RF
Vortexgen. I don't think taxilight's comment is aimed at you. There really is a letter on the board from RF. He/she might just be aimimng it at RF