Jobs in Africa (2008 onwards) Part 2
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Things like banner towing, photo, pipeline and skydiving are all seasonal over most of the US, and amazingly sparse compared to the number of pilots. Instructing is the "normal" way to go, but I have issues with instructing, both from the idea that I don't really want to do that right now, and from the idea that a 250 pilot should not necessarily be instructing new pilots, but that he/she should have much more experience first. Just my opinion.
However I'm not in Africa because I want to build hours, I'm in Africa because I fell in love with the idea of flying in Africa just after I fell in love with flying, which was in 1981, thirty years ago. So for thirty years I've been "preparing" for this trip.
Again, when I saw "GA" and "work" in the same sentence I just couldn't help but laugh. It was not meant to impune people in Maun, and in fact has nothing to do with Maun. I'm not the bloke saying stuff about pilots in Maun. Nor am I saying anything about the way they hire there.
But I will now.
They can choose to hire whoever they want and in whatever manner they want. It's their company.
If you had that company you'd probably use the exact same criteria.
If you know a person, you would be better able to decide than if you don't know them.
If they won't stick around for more than a month, then why would you think they'd stick around after they're hired? (probably had more than one pilot say "it's too hot, I'm going back to Sweden")
If a pilot doesn't get along with everyone in the company BEFORE they're hired, how can you expect them to get along AFTER they're hired?
And on and on.
I'd even say that there are reasons for wanting pilots with less than 500 TT, without a CFI, less than 25 years old, but more than 21, and numerous other criteria, that appear to be random, but actually can find significant reason for implementation.
The fact that a person is bitter about not being hired, and expressing int in a public forum, should indicate that the person is not the kind of person one would want working in such an environment. What else would make them bitter if you'd hired them? the fact that they didn't get a raise in six months? or didn't get promoted to the Caravan in 12 months? or what?
Maybe someone in the organization with skill at reading people saw this before it manifested itself here.
Why to they want you to "hang out" and "buy them a beer"? How about because it's a small town, small companies, and you have to rely on each other. Have you pledged a fraternity? Most likely not, cuz you'd have to be at least 22 to have done University.
When you pledge a fraternity, they want to find out if you can live in the same house as the rest of the brothers. So they put you through tests that find out how you deal with different situations, looking for loyalty and trust. I think (emphasize the word think) that this is a similar process.
If you think your way is better, then get together the cash and start your own charter company.
However I'm not in Africa because I want to build hours, I'm in Africa because I fell in love with the idea of flying in Africa just after I fell in love with flying, which was in 1981, thirty years ago. So for thirty years I've been "preparing" for this trip.
Again, when I saw "GA" and "work" in the same sentence I just couldn't help but laugh. It was not meant to impune people in Maun, and in fact has nothing to do with Maun. I'm not the bloke saying stuff about pilots in Maun. Nor am I saying anything about the way they hire there.
But I will now.
They can choose to hire whoever they want and in whatever manner they want. It's their company.
If you had that company you'd probably use the exact same criteria.
If you know a person, you would be better able to decide than if you don't know them.
If they won't stick around for more than a month, then why would you think they'd stick around after they're hired? (probably had more than one pilot say "it's too hot, I'm going back to Sweden")
If a pilot doesn't get along with everyone in the company BEFORE they're hired, how can you expect them to get along AFTER they're hired?
And on and on.
I'd even say that there are reasons for wanting pilots with less than 500 TT, without a CFI, less than 25 years old, but more than 21, and numerous other criteria, that appear to be random, but actually can find significant reason for implementation.
The fact that a person is bitter about not being hired, and expressing int in a public forum, should indicate that the person is not the kind of person one would want working in such an environment. What else would make them bitter if you'd hired them? the fact that they didn't get a raise in six months? or didn't get promoted to the Caravan in 12 months? or what?
Maybe someone in the organization with skill at reading people saw this before it manifested itself here.
Why to they want you to "hang out" and "buy them a beer"? How about because it's a small town, small companies, and you have to rely on each other. Have you pledged a fraternity? Most likely not, cuz you'd have to be at least 22 to have done University.
When you pledge a fraternity, they want to find out if you can live in the same house as the rest of the brothers. So they put you through tests that find out how you deal with different situations, looking for loyalty and trust. I think (emphasize the word think) that this is a similar process.
If you think your way is better, then get together the cash and start your own charter company.
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I think the idea behind all this discussion is to help our fellow pilots. I am sure all of us mean well when expressing our opinions. GA is a broad term and when it comes to GA jobs, i would like to add that instruction is the way to go in US. I think its the only way to build time faster and also a way to get paid while learning how much u dont know after getting ur commercial at 250 hrs. I am currently instructing in US and m glad i chose to instruct. I am now close to 1000 hrs and comfortable with my skills and experience. I also have an opportunity to fly in africa(thanx to some of you guys) which i intend to take not just to get the experience and hours but because of my african roots. I suggest that if anyone gets an opportunity to instruct in US or anywhere for that matter, they should jump on it and not rush into bigger and better things as it could make u a safer pilot and make the transition easy. 
Just an opinion!!!!
Just an opinion!!!!
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The last I saw, there are something like 60 000 pilots in the US, and something like 15 000 have a commercial, and 8 000 are working.
Noone knows how many of the remaining 7 000 are looking for work.
Noone knows how many of the remaining 7 000 are looking for work.
A recent study by Boeing revealed that out of the 60000, 37000 are going to retire between 2012 and 2017. I hope that gives hope.
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All the more reason for the aircraft manufacturers to hurry it up and get approval for single pilot automated cockpits. Once United States airports become automated the aircraft will only have to carry an ALP. That's an Automated Landing Pilot. The age limit will be lowered to sixteen to enable games whizz kids to qualify at what will effectively become an automated docking operator or ADO for short. Study kit for the necessary ratings will be available on the internet or through any major FAA website download facility.
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and the first blown tire on landing or take off will cause the deaths of 600 passengers...
That will be the end of fully automated flight.
But even though there have been numerous studies, and they have all shown that you can't automate something like driving - in TWO DIMENSIONS - they'll still try it and still have the failures.
That will be the end of fully automated flight.
But even though there have been numerous studies, and they have all shown that you can't automate something like driving - in TWO DIMENSIONS - they'll still try it and still have the failures.
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Any news in Windhoek or Swapkopmund?
I'm still keeping an eye out for possibilities. What's the latest updates in Namibia? I guess the flight as left in Maun..
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cavortingcheetah, once again you are full of it and spreading untruths. No purser in their right mind would allow a young ADO any authority in her/his aircraft. ADO's will in effect have to be employed as cabin attendants, and operate as Automated undocking and docking agents (AUDO's) from within the a/c under the strict supervision of the purser. Poor performance would therefor be strictly controlled, and punishable by a reporting system.
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Finding jobs in Africa
So I've been searching for a little while but can't seem to find any good sources for jobs in Africa.
Can anyone help me out?
I'm also wondering what countries in Africa I should avoid?
Can anyone help me out?
I'm also wondering what countries in Africa I should avoid?
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Saywhat.
I see that it is good that you havent lost your radar for wind ups, bull****, sarcasm or humour.
Where have all the people with common sense gone?
Edit: I have a feeling I may have put my foot in it there... Perhaps his humour is even more subtle than cavortings....
I see that it is good that you havent lost your radar for wind ups, bull****, sarcasm or humour.
Where have all the people with common sense gone?
Edit: I have a feeling I may have put my foot in it there... Perhaps his humour is even more subtle than cavortings....
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lilflyboy262 according to Darkroomsource as what I read, in Namibia it sounds quite scary for low time foreign pilots to have min 2000hrs TT. Is it the same situation at Maun? Actually I am quite serious about visiting Maun. Since you are at Maun you would be at better position to provide us with the current updates.
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Congo?
Have anyone tried out Congo? I heard there are a few companies there hiring. They state that you have to apply in person though. However they don't state that you have to speak fluent French but I would assume that it's a requirement.
but i don't really care about that just i want to fly one airplane