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Guess I'll have to answer my own question: Looked up the far East Forum on Malaysia. The schools seem to be congested so we might not see a reprieve of 'the kenyan pain' at 43 sooner than I thought. 
If I may be allowed to carry on a discouse on the happenings here in. I have given this much thought and self reflex and the conclusions are mind boggling but I'll spare you that. First things first - where the
is ugFlyer?
(been meaning to ask that for eons). Was the gag indefinite? I admit I was exasperated when he got gagged. But it's been too long. A fellow aviator has been sidelined and no remorse seems to be shown by all of you. Me thinking since the gag occured in this forum it's only fair that I question it here.
The gag simply put off TomBola who felt his contribution would probably suffer the same fate. It may also be worth noting that posts not tolerated in this thread have been expressed in other threads with whiffs of blatant racism directed at certain individuals within what some would still like to call Rhodesia and far beyond.
While Simba's comments were simply an observation that he had the right to air, they were utterly dismissed and the chap was provoked by imitation of a 'language' to pass him off as 'uneducated in western ways' or uncivilised or high on weed or whatever (a stereotype that stinks of racism). Somebody who does not fit in the African Forum despite him being an African should be 'relegated' to the Spanish Forum. Wait a minute, he does not fit in there too, he might degrade it too. Mmhh... What to do? Probably he should cease participating in PPRuNe at all. I choose not to comment on the last post as I had no pleasure or disgust (if you choose) of reading it.
While this is an Aviation forum we must be wary of the fact that some aviators seem to be threatened by others' shade of view or skin if you like.
It's not easy to speak with people not reading your words, but simply reacting defensively when no attack has been made.
If I shout the loudest when someone is trying to put a point across I can choose not to HEAR. Lock myself in my fantasy world but once in a while step out to shout down those who question my belief of the world as I see it. It's a beautiful sight from the vantage point I occupy. Real smug. Huh!?
I say all this with the fear that this forum might be reduced to one shade of view and put off those whose contributions may be well meaning.
If I may be allowed to carry on a discouse on the happenings here in. I have given this much thought and self reflex and the conclusions are mind boggling but I'll spare you that. First things first - where the
is ugFlyer? (been meaning to ask that for eons). Was the gag indefinite? I admit I was exasperated when he got gagged. But it's been too long. A fellow aviator has been sidelined and no remorse seems to be shown by all of you. Me thinking since the gag occured in this forum it's only fair that I question it here.The gag simply put off TomBola who felt his contribution would probably suffer the same fate. It may also be worth noting that posts not tolerated in this thread have been expressed in other threads with whiffs of blatant racism directed at certain individuals within what some would still like to call Rhodesia and far beyond.
While Simba's comments were simply an observation that he had the right to air, they were utterly dismissed and the chap was provoked by imitation of a 'language' to pass him off as 'uneducated in western ways' or uncivilised or high on weed or whatever (a stereotype that stinks of racism). Somebody who does not fit in the African Forum despite him being an African should be 'relegated' to the Spanish Forum. Wait a minute, he does not fit in there too, he might degrade it too. Mmhh... What to do? Probably he should cease participating in PPRuNe at all. I choose not to comment on the last post as I had no pleasure or disgust (if you choose) of reading it.
While this is an Aviation forum we must be wary of the fact that some aviators seem to be threatened by others' shade of view or skin if you like.
It's not easy to speak with people not reading your words, but simply reacting defensively when no attack has been made.
If I shout the loudest when someone is trying to put a point across I can choose not to HEAR. Lock myself in my fantasy world but once in a while step out to shout down those who question my belief of the world as I see it. It's a beautiful sight from the vantage point I occupy. Real smug. Huh!?
I say all this with the fear that this forum might be reduced to one shade of view and put off those whose contributions may be well meaning.
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Why you guy's labouring this point, there are so many other interesting, colourful and amusing aspects of aviation in Africa to discuss.
Simple, MusaQ - get a life: if he doesnt like 43rd then it is as simple as going somwhere else that will meet his requirements!
Now lets focuss on all your other relevant and interesting flying aspects and experiences in the wonderful continent of ours - this guy already got tooo much airtime.
Lets think up and post some new interesting threads to focus on.
God bless Africa.
Simple, MusaQ - get a life: if he doesnt like 43rd then it is as simple as going somwhere else that will meet his requirements!
Now lets focuss on all your other relevant and interesting flying aspects and experiences in the wonderful continent of ours - this guy already got tooo much airtime.
Lets think up and post some new interesting threads to focus on.
God bless Africa.
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ugflyer's ban is over on 12 June Lex - then the two of you can keep pumping away at this thread. Or get a life & move on.
Understand this - this great majority of us aviation professionals couldn't give a fat rat's arse what color your skin is - we accept you as a professional. Now it's up to you to decide - are you going to continue weaning on about skin color or are you going to join the rest of us professional aviators & talk flying?
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Understand this - this great majority of us aviation professionals couldn't give a fat rat's arse what color your skin is - we accept you as a professional. Now it's up to you to decide - are you going to continue weaning on about skin color or are you going to join the rest of us professional aviators & talk flying?
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Thanks for the clarification 4HP. Just looking out for a fellow aviator.
I dont intend for 'the two of us pumping at this thread'. I take great offence to that.
Come to think of it I've said most of what I needed to but some okes keep on driving me nuts with their senseless utterances and disrespect for others. Silence on such matters has not been a trait of mine. such rants are uncalled for.
I intend to post on happier terms and talk all flying and not English.
I dont intend for 'the two of us pumping at this thread'. I take great offence to that.
Come to think of it I've said most of what I needed to but some okes keep on driving me nuts with their senseless utterances and disrespect for others. Silence on such matters has not been a trait of mine. such rants are uncalled for.
I intend to post on happier terms and talk all flying and not English.
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MusaQ
Hi there,
Just wanted to find out how the flying training is going (as one pilot to another). I'm sure you're doing well now and would love to see a positive post on how your career is progressing.
I know there will be a lot of continuing discussions (arguments) going on on this thread, but putting all that aside, are things going better for you now?
Oerlikon
Just wanted to find out how the flying training is going (as one pilot to another). I'm sure you're doing well now and would love to see a positive post on how your career is progressing.
I know there will be a lot of continuing discussions (arguments) going on on this thread, but putting all that aside, are things going better for you now?
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@AAL,
I am tired of having to set facts straight everytime. Perhaps if you took time to read through the thread you would appreciate some facts. I had a life before 43 and still have a life past 43. 43 was both an initiation and a dent in my career path, unfortunate to have met some really mean people so early. I have moved on. And I wasnt looking for a school to suit 'my requirements' - your insinuation is sick. I know there's a base limit for all aviators and am glad to fly without 'the baggage'.
The thread is not about me and it doesnt help taking a swipe at me whenever you feel like it. It is as well not a personal attack and your defence of what you seem not to know about is puzzling. Have to admit I have learnt that race relations in southern Africa are complex. Wishing an issue away doesnt help though - others may be living the 'nightmare' that you so lightly dismiss. Maybe I would have done a search on other 43 threads and come up with similar conclusions but my silence would be detrimental to others - I digress.
If it helps I am not the first one to point out what is not right. Others before me have and are still doing so now. KQ is well aware of it too - there has been an instance that almost put all this to rest. Hope that helps soothe you ego.
Again, please read before throwing punches in the dark.
@Oerlikon,
Thank you for your concern, I am doing fine. Somehow, somewhere. I know it works for the best in the long run. There are lots of good people out here.
Flying is fun and an attitude. Difficult for some to understand but hey, am not here to please all.
All the best.
MusaQ.
I am tired of having to set facts straight everytime.
Perhaps if you took time to read through the thread you would appreciate some facts. I had a life before 43 and still have a life past 43. 43 was both an initiation and a dent in my career path, unfortunate to have met some really mean people so early. I have moved on. And I wasnt looking for a school to suit 'my requirements' - your insinuation is sick. I know there's a base limit for all aviators and am glad to fly without 'the baggage'. The thread is not about me and it doesnt help taking a swipe at me whenever you feel like it. It is as well not a personal attack and your defence of what you seem not to know about is puzzling. Have to admit I have learnt that race relations in southern Africa are complex. Wishing an issue away doesnt help though - others may be living the 'nightmare' that you so lightly dismiss. Maybe I would have done a search on other 43 threads and come up with similar conclusions but my silence would be detrimental to others - I digress.
If it helps I am not the first one to point out what is not right. Others before me have and are still doing so now. KQ is well aware of it too - there has been an instance that almost put all this to rest. Hope that helps soothe you ego.
Again, please read before throwing punches in the dark.
@Oerlikon,
Thank you for your concern, I am doing fine. Somehow, somewhere. I know it works for the best in the long run. There are lots of good people out here.
"For once you have tested flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return" - Leonardo Da Vinci.
All the best.
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Awesome
Very well put MusaQ, I wish you nothing but success from this point on. And just out of curiosity, where are you finishing up your training? Do you plan on getting on with KQ when you are done?
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@ugflyer,
On a break but finishing up in the end hopefully. Sure, KQ is every hot-blooded kenyan pilot's ambition. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
High five.
On a break but finishing up in the end hopefully. Sure, KQ is every hot-blooded kenyan pilot's ambition. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
High five.
