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Jhieminga 2nd Mar 2022 07:26

Don't know if this is new information or not: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-60579764

Yellow Sun 15th Mar 2022 15:46

A little more background information coming to light:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60738627



Eutychus 17th Mar 2022 22:57

And some more:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-60767283

megan 18th Mar 2022 07:18


Footballer Emiliano Sala died instantly from "head and trunk injuries" when the plane he was in crashed after breaking up mid-air, a jury has found
Really? Where do they get this from?

tubby linton 18th Mar 2022 10:41

It is in the AAIB report.

DaveReidUK 18th Mar 2022 18:37


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11201740)
Really? Where do they get this from?

That was the inquest jury's finding based on the Sala post-mortem. Also referenced in the AAIB official report, although the jury would not have been bound by that and may not even have read it.

megan 19th Mar 2022 02:45

Thanks chaps, amazing the detail one forgets. I'll put the dunce cap on and stand in the corner.

Flugzeug A 29th Apr 2022 22:05

New , so not sure how to post links but if someone could , there’s an article in the ‘Sun’ a several days ago regarding a new book out on the accident.
If someone could be so kind as to get it here , we can all boggle at the underwater images of the ‘Private jet’ Sala died in...

srobarts 30th Apr 2022 08:29


Originally Posted by Flugzeug A (Post 11223019)
New , so not sure how to post links but if someone could , there’s an article in the ‘Sun’ a several days ago regarding a new book out on the accident.
If someone could be so kind as to get it here , we can all boggle at the underwater images of the ‘Private jet’ Sala died in...

The book that was referred to in the article was published in Jan 2020. The authoir was Harry Harris, a football writer. The title is The Killing of Emiliano Sala: The Inside Story of a Tragic Transfer. I should add the article in The Sun this week was written by Harry Harris, so he was just promoting his own book.

Ddraig Goch 7th Sep 2022 05:18

BBC Radio 4 have made a documentary about this subject. Find it here on BBC sounds:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0...ory_SEG_PNC%5D

DaveReidUK 21st Sep 2022 07:32

New BBC audio from a telephone conversation Ibbotson had prior to the return flight:


"I picked a footballer up from Cardiff

They've entrusted me to pick him up in a dodgy [Malibu] Mirage

Normally I'd have my lifejacket in between my seats, but tomorrow I'll be wearing my lifejacket, that's for sure"
Emiliano Sala: Pilot told friend doomed plane was 'dodgy'

Richard Dangle 21st Sep 2022 09:50

I've already made my thoughts (as an aviation professional of 27 years standing) on this utterly preventable, avoidable and unnecessary "accident" crystal clear in this thread and repetition will not strengthen my point, so I'll simply remark that I hope this genie is out the bottle and stays out. The genie being some of the archaic GA regulations and the resulting weak enforcement of them. I'm no longer in the aviation profession, but I know that many who are share my views.

Some of the immediately involved have faced the consequences... hopefully that does not end the matter, as a few minutes research just on this website alone will show dozens of accidents which share the same characteristics as this one.

Condolences to all the bereaved families and friends (including those of the pilot) but I hope they can endure the continuing spotlight in the hope that some good will come from it all.

Ddraig Goch 29th Sep 2022 14:34

A TV documentary about Emiliano is now available on BBC Iplayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...-emiliano-sala

Has anything been done by the CAA to try to stop this kind of thing happening again?

Geriaviator 29th Sep 2022 17:51

I very much doubt it. The CAA does try but so many PPLs do it that it becomes impossible to prove until a disaster such as this happens. I'm still horrified by the Wingly concession. One factor that should be publicised is the clause in many insurance policies (particularly those attached to mortgages) which excludes flight except in multi-engined aircraft flown by a pilot with not less than commercial multi-engine rating.


alfaman 29th Sep 2022 18:50


Originally Posted by Ddraig Goch (Post 11304942)
A TV documentary about Emiliano is now available on BBC Iplayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...-emiliano-sala

Has anything been done by the CAA to try to stop this kind of thing happening again?

The CAA will do what they can, but are constrained the way everyone else is. Those that deliberately flout the rules can only be brought to book if the government puts the resources in to do so, & I'm afraid I don't see any will to do that.

Jonzarno 30th Sep 2022 09:25


Originally Posted by Geriaviator (Post 11305058)
I'm still horrified by the Wingly concession.

I am in favour of genuine cost sharing, even if it is advertised on line. But many of the ads on Wingly seem to me to be well across the line defining illegal charters. Cleaning that up by publishing a clear definition of what is and what isn't acceptable cost sharing, as the FAA has done in the US, would at least go some way to help.

India Four Two 1st Oct 2022 16:10


what is and what isn't acceptable cost sharing, as the FAA has done in the US, …
Could you post the reference?

uxb99 1st Oct 2022 16:37

What I don't understand with this unfortunate incident is the apparent complicity of the footballer in question (not blaming him here, this is just an opinion, observation) to fly in the aircraft in the first place.
Obviously with hindsight but if it was me, I would have insisted a main carrier first class with all the bells and whistles. After all he was worth several million. Academic of course but flying with a single pilot in a small aircraft doesn't seem to fit the footballer lifestyle?

Jonzarno 1st Oct 2022 17:53


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11306238)
Could you post the reference?

Here it is

jumpseater 1st Oct 2022 19:18


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11306249)
What I don't understand with this unfortunate incident is the apparent complicity of the footballer in question (not blaming him here, this is just an opinion, observation) to fly in the aircraft in the first place.
Obviously with hindsight but if it was me, I would have insisted a main carrier first class with all the bells and whistles. After all he was worth several million. Academic of course but flying with a single pilot in a small aircraft doesn't seem to fit the footballer lifestyle?

Time was critical in the sequence of events. Sala had returned to Nantes to say goodbye to former team mates. This was arranged as I recall by the agent Willie McKay or his son and done as a favour. Previously in the chain of events a biz jet had been used, perhaps Sala was expecting that too rather than the Malibu.

Sala had to be back in Cardiff for PR/ training on the day after the accident, and left Nantes late. As the aircraft had delivered him ‘safely’ southbound, and time was against him, not unreasonable for him to assume the same northbound. Let’s assume the cowboy pilot looked and sounded professional when customer facing, rather than the incompetent one that was the truthful position.

Easy to spot with the benefits of hindsight and background knowledge. Looking at Cardiffs Met both actual and forecast vs pilot experience/currency, I don’t think a safe arrival was in anyway assured either.

To a 28 year old soccer player, under time pressure, probably not wanting to let the new club down on his first day in the office, and now entering the big leagues nowhere like as obvious, hence boarding the aircraft.


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