JAL incident at Haneda Airport

[Ikijibiki]

Originally Posted by Dct_Mopas

ATC live recordings are available and JAL516 was cleared to land 34R. It was the first of a number of aircraft given 34R for landing.

https://archive.liveatc.net/rjtt/RJT...2024-0830Z.mp3

Landing clearance readback at 15mins.
Report of fire at 17mins 20secs

What about the ATC communications with the Coast Guard plane? Would those be in this audio stream?

[RickNRoll]

I find it hard to believe all escaped. There is video of them coming down the slide with flames inside the cabin.

[meleagertoo]

Why are the nacelles on the ground? Is the loss of nosegear going to cause such substantial contact?

[PC767]

New video of evacuation from aircraft right, shows no2 engine still running. Well done to cabin crew for situational awareness and not evacuating behind no 2 engine.

[Dct_Mopas]

Originally Posted by ORAC

If we have the ATC recordings, what were the taxi, runway, hold instructions for the Dash-8?

This really is an unconfirmed ATC message - but from what I made out an aircraft unknown was told “your number 1, taxi for holding point C5”. Which is an intersection for 34R.

[Auxtank]

Originally Posted by jolihokistix

Last 5 from Dash now confirmed deceased.

Died in the course of duty bringing relief and supplies to earthquake victims.

RIP

[ORAC]

Latest video on Sky News shows the right hand engine still running and throwing out sparks and debris as the evacuation is taking place with a heavy fuel leak from the centreline tanks. Only front slide in use on the right side, front and rear on the left.

https://x.com/skynews/status/1742133...HhlFHGKbTPQr_A

[Skillsy]

The evacuation from a few angles...
https://x.com/mishika_singh/status/1...050074822?s=20

Twitter

https://x.com/koidrupesh/status/1742...070979883?s=20
https://x.com/stillgray/status/1742128781509423358?s=20

[PC767]

Also rh mlg collapsed, liquid pouring from fuselage centre, and damage to engine cowling as if something cut through it.

[RudderTrimZero]

That slide doesn't look like it deployed properly.

This is tragic. A member of the public can see aircraft movements on FR24 and spot a potential collision before any onboard aircraft systems and ATC can. How is that possible in 2024?

[PC767]

The new video also shows two AFRS in attendance and having laid foam down during evacuation. If the leaking liquid is fuel from centre tank, that foam saved lifes.

It appears the AFRS had a realitively intact aircraft under controlled evacuation. The inferno came after evacuation.

[Aerostar6]

Video on Sky news showing evacuation from the starboard side. Clear damage to the right hand nacelle and radome/lower fuselage.

A little sceptical that the leak of fluid from the lower fuselage is fuel. Would a short internal flight be using the centre tank? Also, the Japan Airlines title is partially obscured on the fuselage - foam covered? More likely fluid is fire fighting media.

[simfly]

Do the JAL 359s actuallly have centre fuel tanks? I know these birds were specifically built for JAL domestics. I’m sure I remember reading at the time they were introduced that they might not have the centre tanks to save weight because they didn’t need to carry more fuel than could be stored in the wing tanks?

[jolihokistix]

The Ministry of Transport and the Coastguard Service are now engaged in a meeting which started 20 minutes ago.

[M4rtyman]

Originally Posted by Skillsy

The evacuation from a few angles...

Maybe it's the angle, but that slide looks really steep. Did it fully deploy?

[Switchbait]

Terrible accident.

Are all A350 delivered with the HUD on both sides?

Airplanes can be extremely difficult to spot on a runway amongst all the lighting, especially if they are stationary, but I would have thought with two pilots looking through the HUD, it could help reduce this risk.

[rkenyon]

Originally Posted by M4rtyman

Maybe it's the angle, but that slide looks really steep. Did it fully deploy?

It's because the nose is on the floor, so the rear is higher that normal. Thus the slide is very steep.

[M4rtyman]

Originally Posted by rkenyon

It's because the nose is on the floor, so the rear is higher that normal. Thus the slide is very steep.

Ah yes - makes sense

[JT Eagle]

On the livestream at timestamp 17:59, a figure can be seen walking near the Dash-8 wreckage. He appears to have a limp and may possibly be the Coast Guard pilot.
JT

[chalkhill-blue]

Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero

That slide doesn't look like it deployed properly.

This is tragic. A member of the public can see aircraft movements on FR24 and spot a potential collision before any onboard aircraft systems and ATC can. How is that possible in 2024?

Checking on FR24 I cannot see the Dash 8 at all.